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[shahmaran]

They choose not to to Kentish, they know exactly what it takes to have an agreement tomorrow if they wish, but as Makarios once said "I love pushing the limits and see how far I can take people", they think they still have a chance for total domination if they just keep playing along in the given circumstances, with everything against the TC as they pleased.

What they don't consider to be of any value to them, which is what they bargain over with, is the ever diminishing TC trust, by fighting us they are in effect working against themselves, they think they can force us into things we do not want to be a part of.

What do you expect from a religious-monkey led, "freedom operation", that is executed by more short sighted racist nationalists?

[Get Real!]

...but as Makarios once said "I love pushing the limits and see how far I can take people"

Did he whisper that to your ear when he had you on his lap?

[shahmaran]

...but as Makarios once said "I love pushing the limits and see how far I can take people"

Did he whisper that to your ear when he had you on his lap?

Makarios, as he said to Fallaci, did not have the least intention of leaving the Monastery. “I always enjoyed driving myself to the brink of the abyss, and then stopping just in time not to fall”, he said. “The other party, of course, believes that I am about to fall and kill myself. On the contrary, I proceed very calmly, knowing when to put on the brakes.”

http://www.makarios.eu/cgibin/hweb?-A=3285&-V=english

[kentish]

yes shahmaran succinctly put, the muppets on this forum like a good laugh but they cannot see their actions are making what they desire an impossibilty.
i only wish everyone on this forum is around for when partition and recognition comes but sadly i think most of us will be long gone
they can all stay and peddle the usual dirge on this forum for another 20 years

[Kikapu]

almost every gc on this forum and kikapu cannot stand the idea of a tc prospering so they will cling to every avenue that hinders any progress of tc.
this will inevitably lead to a permanent and recognised partition and the end of turkey eu aspirations and I welcome it because i cannot trust the gc.when this happens there will be nothing to discuss.
i dont understand why people on this forum cannot see where cyprus is heading

Tell us with what are the TCs prospering in the north, Kentish.!

Is the prosperity mainly coming from selling stolen GC land.?? What will they do once they have exhausted all the stolen GC land.? What will they sell next to maintain their present "high lifestyles".? If wealth is not created but stolen, it has a limited shelf life before poverty strikes. At present, those who are able to go abroad with their EU passports can create wealth , but what will happen to them and their offspring if the RoC no longer accepts them as her citizens due to some agreed pact with the TC (Turkey) leaders for a permanent partition. The Turks will control all the major industries in the north, because they have the money. The TCs do not have the wealth to do very much. In time,it will be the TCs who will either become unemployed and looking for handout from Turkey again, because of the welfare system Turkey has already created in the3 north, or the TCs will be doing those cheap jobs that are done by the Turks.

Tell me how am I begrudging the TCs any economic success earned honestly.?? Am I not the one who supports BBF based on True Federation and True Democracy where everyone will be equal, and if the north returns 50% of the north back, the north state will remain mostly TCs and keeping 50% of power in the Upper House, which they can once again start a new beginning by being an "honest society" from the present "corrupted society". The question I have for you is, why do you reject the TCs being part of a "honest society" but want them to stay part of a "corrupted society".? Are you a morally corrupted individual, Kentish.??Just what is it that you stand to lose by being part of the "honest society"?? Are you holding stolen GC land, is that it.?? I'm just asking.!

[Viewpoint]

Get Real!

Prosperity at someone else’s expense is haram! Read the Quran!

Its new name is a capatilist society under "true democray and true human rights"

I'll bet you can't explain how...

Watch and learn, the first wave is at the end of this year.

Not even if the CNG was to conduct a peace operation to liberate her territory and relieve the TCs from embargoes at the slightest opportunity?

Go for it but dont cry when you get your butt whipped yet again.

[Nikitas]

Kikapu said:

"but what will happen to them and their offspring if the RoC no longer accepts them as her citizens due to some agreed pact with the TC (Turkey) leaders for a permanent partition"

This and some other practical aspects of BBF and partition are intriguing. I have often posted them, not as rhetorica challenges but because I really want to know how others see the practical conseuquences of sepcific plans. It seems no one has any answers as to how things will work out in practice.

So what happens to the nationality issue in the event of partition? Are all TC RoC passport holders automatically deprived of RoC citizenship with no say in the matter? Aee they regarded as dual nationals? If there is dual nationality for one side, is it also extended to the other side?

[Nikitas]

"everyone on this forum is around for when partition and recognition comes "

Are you slow on the uptake Kentish? What we have had for 36 years is partition combined with Enosis of the north with Turkey. Whether recognised or not, partition it is. So what are you moaning about. You got it, enjoy it.

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu said:

"but what will happen to them and their offspring if the RoC no longer accepts them as her citizens due to some agreed pact with the TC (Turkey) leaders for a permanent partition"

This and some other practical aspects of BBF and partition are intriguing. I have often posted them, not as rhetorica challenges but because I really want to know how others see the practical conseuquences of sepcific plans. It seems no one has any answers as to how things will work out in practice.

So what happens to the nationality issue in the event of partition? Are all TC RoC passport holders automatically deprived of RoC citizenship with no say in the matter? Aee they regarded as dual nationals? If there is dual nationality for one side, is it also extended to the other side?

That would be up to the "RoC" and the EU to decide if the TRNC is recognized.

[kentish]

you are a stupid ignorent fool kikapu.i have no stolen land and i am whiter than white.i have nothing to prove to you.i am not saying tc are prospering.i am saying gc would do everything in their power to prevent tc from prospering as has been proved by their actions fom the 60's until now.they are incapable and unwilling to negotiate with tc because of the very word negotiate.negotiation means give and take and that is not what gc do.

no matter what you say life for a tc under gc rule in cyprus would be hellish and that is why they would rather take their chances with turkey

you or someone else tell me how unification to the satisfaction of both sides could be achieved.no chance.

as for stolen land and refugee gc,do me a favour , a war happened and what the result is , is