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More settlers on their way to North Cyprus

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Me Ed » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:08 am

Viewpoint wrote:
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kurupetos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:The choice is unifying with Turkey officially or becoming a minority in a GC state.


The second choice looks more promising. :wink:


Not from where we are sitting. In 10 years time you will have 80 million Turks on your door step to "negotiate" with, just one step away from the EU and ready to flood your part of the island goodluck.


Then you have to join forces with your GC brothers to stop the turkish sewage from coming to Cyprus. :wink:


So now we are brothers? why wasnt this the case when it mattered and you treated us as second class citizens.


Because your ancestors decided to become Turks and side with the enemy. Then it was just self-defense for us.


You were the majority against a minority yet you had no problems trying to push us to one side and turn us into second class citizens and give Cyprus to Greece it was us that had to fight for survival.


You started it. Remember those TCs in 1958 asking for partition/taksim? :evil:


when was eoka formed?

Dwell on the past VP, I'm sure it gives you some sense of justification.

But the reality is that the Turks are eliminating you one by one.

Your future lies with the GCs in the south.


We made a choice in 1974 and the options are not enticing enough to alter that decision, we would rather become part of Turkey than a minority in a GC state ruled by GCs.

The reality is that after 1974, the GCs removed enosis and that made us less Greek and more Cypriot.

You on the other hand 1974 made you less Cypriot and more Turkish and you are only identified as Cypriots, either amongst yourselves or by the GCs.

The occupiers only see you as "turks of cyprus".
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:35 am

Thirty six years of occupation and colonisation should have been enough for anyone to realise the game being played. Not the TCs. No, they still talk about the time when they were treated as second class citizens by the GCs.

So, which is better, being treated as second class citizens by the GCs or disappeared by the Turks. You choose.

Is the life of the average TC better than the life of a Turk in Rhodos or Kos? I have been to both islands and it seemed to me that the Turks there are way better off than TCs. Obvously that assertion will be treated as "tainted" because it comes from a GC. But facts are facts.

And no, I am not using the examples of Rhodos and Kos to justify Enosis. What they do prove is that living in the "enemy" country is better overall than living in the TRNC after 36 years of "liberation". One wonders what will make the TCs wake up and when.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:38 am

Nikitas wrote:Thirty six years of occupation and colonisation should have been enough for anyone to realise the game being played. Not the TCs. No, they still talk about the time when they were treated as second class citizens by the GCs.

So, which is better, being treated as second class citizens by the GCs or disappeared by the Turks. You choose.

Is the life of the average TC better than the life of a Turk in Rhodos or Kos? I have been to both islands and it seemed to me that the Turks there are way better off than TCs. Obvously that assertion will be treated as "tainted" because it comes from a GC. But facts are facts.

And no, I am not using the examples of Rhodos and Kos to justify Enosis. What they do prove is that living in the "enemy" country is better overall than living in the TRNC after 36 years of "liberation". One wonders what will make the TCs wake up and when.

I think they know they’ve lost the game already so they’ve settled for causing us as much harm as possible!
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:40 am

GR,

Every time I read statements from Eroglu, and also before him, from Talat, I tend to agree with you.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:45 am

Nikitas wrote:GR,

Every time I read statements from Eroglu, and also before him, from Talat, I tend to agree with you.

I think deep down the bitter pills of 1878 and 1923 are hard for them to swallow…
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:03 am

Maybe that is why Davutoglu has gone off on a neo Ottoman bender and convinced the rest to follow.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:43 am

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Carry on ignoring history Deniz.....
because that's going to take you forward


Dont worry about Zan. I know more about the history of Cyprus than most. Thats why I love Cyprus, the whole of it. Its people and its cultures.
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Postby EPSILON » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:53 am

Viewpoint wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The choice is unifying with Turkey officially or becoming a minority in a GC state.


The second choice looks more promising. :wink:


Not from where we are sitting. In 10 years time you will have 80 million Turks on your door step to "negotiate" with, just one step away from the EU and ready to flood your part of the island goodluck.


Then you have to join forces with your GC brothers to stop the turkish sewage from coming to Cyprus. :wink:


So now we are brothers? why wasnt this the case when it mattered and you treated us as second class citizens.


Because your ancestors decided to become Turks and side with the enemy. Then it was just self-defense for us.


You were the majority against a minority yet you had no problems trying to push us to one side and turn us into second class citizens and give Cyprus to Greece it was us that had to fight for survival.


And you saved yourselves by moving to London..Good solution for all of you .

I have visited the occupied asreas twice. The feeling i got was that any progress there is not the normmal progress Cypriots would have . Many things , including the progress, is smelling a foreign country.

Big pictures of politicians, big statums, such big which do not comply either with the Island's culture nor T/cs religion things , the air there is a mixture of Anatolia and modern Turkey.

I am sure that if T/cs were alone in North the two sides of Cyprus would be almoast the same.
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:32 am

Nikitas wrote:Thirty six years of occupation and colonisation should have been enough for anyone to realise the game being played. Not the TCs. No, they still talk about the time when they were treated as second class citizens by the GCs.

So, which is better, being treated as second class citizens by the GCs or disappeared by the Turks. You choose.

Is the life of the average TC better than the life of a Turk in Rhodos or Kos? I have been to both islands and it seemed to me that the Turks there are way better off than TCs. Obvously that assertion will be treated as "tainted" because it comes from a GC. But facts are facts.

And no, I am not using the examples of Rhodos and Kos to justify Enosis. What they do prove is that living in the "enemy" country is better overall than living in the TRNC after 36 years of "liberation". One wonders what will make the TCs wake up and when.


I have more problems with being a second class citizen ANYWHERE because of my ethnicity, than a few Turks living around me.

What kind of rubbish is that?

Most of them do 3rd class jobs anyways so doesn't bother me, cheap labor. I don't really know many TC's who would do their work around here at the moment so works out for me. :roll:
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:34 am

EPSILON wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The choice is unifying with Turkey officially or becoming a minority in a GC state.


The second choice looks more promising. :wink:


Not from where we are sitting. In 10 years time you will have 80 million Turks on your door step to "negotiate" with, just one step away from the EU and ready to flood your part of the island goodluck.


Then you have to join forces with your GC brothers to stop the turkish sewage from coming to Cyprus. :wink:


So now we are brothers? why wasnt this the case when it mattered and you treated us as second class citizens.


Because your ancestors decided to become Turks and side with the enemy. Then it was just self-defense for us.


You were the majority against a minority yet you had no problems trying to push us to one side and turn us into second class citizens and give Cyprus to Greece it was us that had to fight for survival.


And you saved yourselves by moving to London..Good solution for all of you .

I have visited the occupied asreas twice. The feeling i got was that any progress there is not the normmal progress Cypriots would have . Many things , including the progress, is smelling a foreign country.

Big pictures of politicians, big statums, such big which do not comply either with the Island's culture nor T/cs religion things , the air there is a mixture of Anatolia and modern Turkey.

I am sure that if T/cs were alone in North the two sides of Cyprus would be almoast the same.


I am not sure which part of the TRNC and Turkey you have visited, but I am yet to see an example of what you are talking about..
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