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Postby zan » Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:17 pm

miltiades wrote:For the benefit of Dominic and Malcolm of the NCFP , those having a dig at me are members of the CF that I have no time for and never have had.
Let us take GR , a man who believes that the only option to a Cyprus solution is war , he further more supports the Taliban , Hamas , Hezbollah , Suicide bombers , Bin Laden and anyone who hates the West and in particular the USA and Britain as much as he does.
Zan , the loser , a convinced partitionist who believes that the entire world is wrong and only Turkey is right !!
Some others for whom I know nothing about since their relative short time debating the Cyprob and of course the one and only Runaway who will tell you that the only good G/C is a dead one.
My views are well known on the CF and respected by the vast majority of G/Cs , T/Cs and others. I'm controversial in as much as I consider my self to be a Cypriot above all and naturally many G/Cs have different views. I curse Turkey just as much as I curse Greece.
The serious and responsible forumers , not the cowboys who want to start a bloody war , are the ones you two should take note off.
GR is a fool always has been , Runaway a Turkish extremist , Zan rather mixed up and a partitionist .
I have stated on numerous occasions on this forum that my ambition is to see a united Cyprus and a T/C President who will [proudly call Cyprus his motherland .
Views such as mine and those of Bananiot do attract the extreme voices.



But getting rid of Greek flags at the London rally is beyond you....I credit you with guts to go for the big stuff only!!!



Miltiades.......I am not trying to portray you as a bad man......Just a salesman.....You clearly have no idea what you are doing as you have shown in attacking a group you know nothing about....
:lol: :roll:
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Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:05 pm

zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:For the benefit of Dominic and Malcolm of the NCFP , those having a dig at me are members of the CF that I have no time for and never have had.
Let us take GR , a man who believes that the only option to a Cyprus solution is war , he further more supports the Taliban , Hamas , Hezbollah , Suicide bombers , Bin Laden and anyone who hates the West and in particular the USA and Britain as much as he does.
Zan , the loser , a convinced partitionist who believes that the entire world is wrong and only Turkey is right !!
Some others for whom I know nothing about since their relative short time debating the Cyprob and of course the one and only Runaway who will tell you that the only good G/C is a dead one.
My views are well known on the CF and respected by the vast majority of G/Cs , T/Cs and others. I'm controversial in as much as I consider my self to be a Cypriot above all and naturally many G/Cs have different views. I curse Turkey just as much as I curse Greece.
The serious and responsible forumers , not the cowboys who want to start a bloody war , are the ones you two should take note off.
GR is a fool always has been , Runaway a Turkish extremist , Zan rather mixed up and a partitionist .
I have stated on numerous occasions on this forum that my ambition is to see a united Cyprus and a T/C President who will [proudly call Cyprus his motherland .
Views such as mine and those of Bananiot do attract the extreme voices.



But getting rid of Greek flags at the London rally is beyond you....I credit you with guts to go for the big stuff only!!!



Miltiades.......I am not trying to portray you as a bad man......Just a salesman.....You clearly have no idea what you are doing as you have shown in attacking a group you know nothing about....
:lol: :roll:

Zan you of all people surely know my aversion to both the Greek and the Turkish flags in relation to Cyprus.
I have made many a G/C enemy because of my vociferous condemnation of the act of raising either of those foreign flags in regards to Cypriot matters.
How would you suggest I get rid of Greek flags at the annual Cyprus rally , perhaps you would care to ponder over this and advice me accordingly.
The people who have bought stolen properties I know only too well. English and other cheapskates who do not give a shit about the T/Cs , they make out they do but as far as they are concerned they are all bloody foreigners. They are the lowest of the law , no principles no morals defending the indefensible , properties that are now being repossessed by the crooked banks.
They know little about Cypriot history some suggesting that the G/Cs are not indigenous to Cyprus !!!!
They are a bunch of senile old codgers , greedy bastards who support the occupiers because they misguidedly think it serves their financial interests.
Dominic posted that he has not banned me he merely does not publish my posts and you know why ? Because Miltiades has exposed him and the rest of the cheapskates for what they are. He and Malcolm take comfort in the fact that GR......, Runaway , Simon the Greek and you have had a dig at me !!!
Fine , GR the Al qaeda , Hamas , Hezbollah , suicide savages supporter is having a go at me . Im suppose to cower at such ... eminent personalities attacking me !!!!
Plonkers I call them and Plonkers they are.
Let them come on this forum and defend their support of the continuation of the division of Cyprus , let them join forces with Runaway , GR the clown and Simon the Greek.Im ready for them Zan !
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Postby zan » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:36 pm

miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:For the benefit of Dominic and Malcolm of the NCFP , those having a dig at me are members of the CF that I have no time for and never have had.
Let us take GR , a man who believes that the only option to a Cyprus solution is war , he further more supports the Taliban , Hamas , Hezbollah , Suicide bombers , Bin Laden and anyone who hates the West and in particular the USA and Britain as much as he does.
Zan , the loser , a convinced partitionist who believes that the entire world is wrong and only Turkey is right !!
Some others for whom I know nothing about since their relative short time debating the Cyprob and of course the one and only Runaway who will tell you that the only good G/C is a dead one.
My views are well known on the CF and respected by the vast majority of G/Cs , T/Cs and others. I'm controversial in as much as I consider my self to be a Cypriot above all and naturally many G/Cs have different views. I curse Turkey just as much as I curse Greece.
The serious and responsible forumers , not the cowboys who want to start a bloody war , are the ones you two should take note off.
GR is a fool always has been , Runaway a Turkish extremist , Zan rather mixed up and a partitionist .
I have stated on numerous occasions on this forum that my ambition is to see a united Cyprus and a T/C President who will [proudly call Cyprus his motherland .
Views such as mine and those of Bananiot do attract the extreme voices.



But getting rid of Greek flags at the London rally is beyond you....I credit you with guts to go for the big stuff only!!!



Miltiades.......I am not trying to portray you as a bad man......Just a salesman.....You clearly have no idea what you are doing as you have shown in attacking a group you know nothing about....
:lol: :roll:

Zan you of all people surely know my aversion to both the Greek and the Turkish flags in relation to Cyprus.
I have made many a G/C enemy because of my vociferous condemnation of the act of raising either of those foreign flags in regards to Cypriot matters.
How would you suggest I get rid of Greek flags at the annual Cyprus rally , perhaps you would care to ponder over this and advice me accordingly.
The people who have bought stolen properties I know only too well. English and other cheapskates who do not give a shit about the T/Cs , they make out they do but as far as they are concerned they are all bloody foreigners. They are the lowest of the law , no principles no morals defending the indefensible , properties that are now being repossessed by the crooked banks.
They know little about Cypriot history some suggesting that the G/Cs are not indigenous to Cyprus !!!!
They are a bunch of senile old codgers , greedy bastards who support the occupiers because they misguidedly think it serves their financial interests.
Dominic posted that he has not banned me he merely does not publish my posts and you know why ? Because Miltiades has exposed him and the rest of the cheapskates for what they are. He and Malcolm take comfort in the fact that GR......, Runaway , Simon the Greek and you have had a dig at me !!!
Fine , GR the Al qaeda , Hamas , Hezbollah , suicide savages supporter is having a go at me . Im suppose to cower at such ... eminent personalities attacking me !!!!
Plonkers I call them and Plonkers they are.
Let them come on this forum and defend their support of the continuation of the division of Cyprus , let them join forces with Runaway , GR the clown and Simon the Greek.Im ready for them Zan !



I also know that the Brits who buy property in the South don't give a shit about the TCs or the GCs Milti so what does that prove? If they did then they would have studied the Cyprob and made a conscious decision not to interfere but here they are on this Forum waving Greek propaganda in our faces.

As for the Greek flags at the London/Cyprus rally...I once asked you to provide me with a picture of you, at the rally, with a banner opposing it.....It was a joke because I knew they would tear you apart. But how about this........there is a guy on youtube who has become famous for doing a stupid dance in places all around the world......Perhaps a video of you doing a traditional "Cypriot" dance wearing a T-Shirt with the slogan " Boycot the London/Cyprus Rally run under Greek flags" :lol: Sorry..That is one I would love to see :lol:

Seriously though.....How about you and you coffee shop friends forming a group and seriously protesting this outside the "Cyprus Embassy" and maybe taking a protest to Downing street and showing that GCs do not want the Greek flag either :idea:
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Postby B25 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:42 pm

zan wrote:
As for the Greek flags at the London/Cyprus rally...I once asked you to provide me with a picture of you, at the rally, with a banner opposing it.....It was a joke because I knew they would tear you apart. But how about this........there is a guy on youtube who has become famous for doing a stupid dance in places all around the world......Perhaps a video of you doing a traditional "Cypriot" dance wearing a T-Shirt with the slogan " Boycot the London/Cyprus Rally run under Greek flags" :lol: Sorry..That is one I would love to see :lol:

Seriously though.....How about you and you coffee shop friends forming a group and seriously protesting this outside the "Cyprus Embassy" and maybe taking a protest to Downing street and showing that GCs do not want the Greek flag either :idea:


Why don't you do your own dirty work you piece of shit.

Anyway whats wrong with the greek flag, Cyprus IS Greek so piss off.
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Postby zan » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:48 pm

B25 wrote:
zan wrote:
As for the Greek flags at the London/Cyprus rally...I once asked you to provide me with a picture of you, at the rally, with a banner opposing it.....It was a joke because I knew they would tear you apart. But how about this........there is a guy on youtube who has become famous for doing a stupid dance in places all around the world......Perhaps a video of you doing a traditional "Cypriot" dance wearing a T-Shirt with the slogan " Boycot the London/Cyprus Rally run under Greek flags" :lol: Sorry..That is one I would love to see :lol:

Seriously though.....How about you and you coffee shop friends forming a group and seriously protesting this outside the "Cyprus Embassy" and maybe taking a protest to Downing street and showing that GCs do not want the Greek flag either :idea:


Why don't you do your own dirty work you piece of shit.

Anyway whats wrong with the greek flag, Cyprus IS Greek so piss off.


Then runs and hides behind Miltiades
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Postby B25 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:50 pm

zan wrote:
B25 wrote:
zan wrote:
As for the Greek flags at the London/Cyprus rally...I once asked you to provide me with a picture of you, at the rally, with a banner opposing it.....It was a joke because I knew they would tear you apart. But how about this........there is a guy on youtube who has become famous for doing a stupid dance in places all around the world......Perhaps a video of you doing a traditional "Cypriot" dance wearing a T-Shirt with the slogan " Boycot the London/Cyprus Rally run under Greek flags" :lol: Sorry..That is one I would love to see :lol:

Seriously though.....How about you and you coffee shop friends forming a group and seriously protesting this outside the "Cyprus Embassy" and maybe taking a protest to Downing street and showing that GCs do not want the Greek flag either :idea:


Why don't you do your own dirty work you piece of shit.

Anyway whats wrong with the greek flag, Cyprus IS Greek so piss off.


Then runs and hides behind Miltiades
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Postby zan » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:53 pm

B25 wrote:
zan wrote:
B25 wrote:
zan wrote:
As for the Greek flags at the London/Cyprus rally...I once asked you to provide me with a picture of you, at the rally, with a banner opposing it.....It was a joke because I knew they would tear you apart. But how about this........there is a guy on youtube who has become famous for doing a stupid dance in places all around the world......Perhaps a video of you doing a traditional "Cypriot" dance wearing a T-Shirt with the slogan " Boycot the London/Cyprus Rally run under Greek flags" :lol: Sorry..That is one I would love to see :lol:

Seriously though.....How about you and you coffee shop friends forming a group and seriously protesting this outside the "Cyprus Embassy" and maybe taking a protest to Downing street and showing that GCs do not want the Greek flag either :idea:


Why don't you do your own dirty work you piece of shit.

Anyway whats wrong with the greek flag, Cyprus IS Greek so piss off.


Then runs and hides behind Miltiades
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You are on the wrong thread Guv!!! You should be here
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 180#611180 And the letter is "R" not "C".... :roll:
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Postby Vincehugo » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:23 pm

miltiades wrote:
Vincehugo wrote:The bit that really puts it all in perspective for me is this quote from the original posting

"In my six months of exchanges I have drawn the conclusion beyond a shadow of a doubt that the English brigade living in the occupied areas is determined if required to take arms against the RoC , so much hatred they have for the G/Cs I'm surprised the scum are not denied access to the RoC. "

What a load of old nonsense!

Call it paranoia or a lack of objectivity but either way it is pretty clear, as I have long suspected, that Miltiades is not very good at drawing conclusions.

Vince I think your contributions to the Senile 44 forum are slowly sneaking through the CF . I hereby draw the conclusion that you are a cheapskate !!!


Another badly drawn conclusion, Yiannis. And another well thought through response (not) to my point.

What never ceases to amaze me about you is your ability to single-handedly and confidently represent the consolidated views of other groups - whether it be "cheapskates, G/C's, T/C's or the English - because you have talked to a few (and presumably the ones that wouldn't dare to disagree with you).

Apparently your views are "respected by the vast majority of G/Cs , T/Cs and others.." How can you be so sure of that? Have you validated it through research? And then you go on to say that "I have made many a G/C enemy .." But I guess that even your enemies respect your views?!

I would be more likely to be convinced of your ability to represent the views of a nation if I thought that you were actually prepared to consider the merit of any view other than your own, but it doesn't seem to be one of your strengths.

We are all allowed our own views in this world (thank goodness) but yours do come across as rather pompous and narrow-minded (IMHO). Even down to thinking that anybody really gives a damn whether you are "allegedly" banned from other forums. If you have been banned then the reason is not because you are saying things people don't want to hear but because you are rude, boring and unable to conduct a reasoned debate.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:28 pm

zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:For the benefit of Dominic and Malcolm of the NCFP , those having a dig at me are members of the CF that I have no time for and never have had.
Let us take GR , a man who believes that the only option to a Cyprus solution is war , he further more supports the Taliban , Hamas , Hezbollah , Suicide bombers , Bin Laden and anyone who hates the West and in particular the USA and Britain as much as he does.
Zan , the loser , a convinced partitionist who believes that the entire world is wrong and only Turkey is right !!
Some others for whom I know nothing about since their relative short time debating the Cyprob and of course the one and only Runaway who will tell you that the only good G/C is a dead one.
My views are well known on the CF and respected by the vast majority of G/Cs , T/Cs and others. I'm controversial in as much as I consider my self to be a Cypriot above all and naturally many G/Cs have different views. I curse Turkey just as much as I curse Greece.
The serious and responsible forumers , not the cowboys who want to start a bloody war , are the ones you two should take note off.
GR is a fool always has been , Runaway a Turkish extremist , Zan rather mixed up and a partitionist .
I have stated on numerous occasions on this forum that my ambition is to see a united Cyprus and a T/C President who will [proudly call Cyprus his motherland .
Views such as mine and those of Bananiot do attract the extreme voices.



But getting rid of Greek flags at the London rally is beyond you....I credit you with guts to go for the big stuff only!!!



Miltiades.......I am not trying to portray you as a bad man......Just a salesman.....You clearly have no idea what you are doing as you have shown in attacking a group you know nothing about....
:lol: :roll:

Zan you of all people surely know my aversion to both the Greek and the Turkish flags in relation to Cyprus.
I have made many a G/C enemy because of my vociferous condemnation of the act of raising either of those foreign flags in regards to Cypriot matters.
How would you suggest I get rid of Greek flags at the annual Cyprus rally , perhaps you would care to ponder over this and advice me accordingly.
The people who have bought stolen properties I know only too well. English and other cheapskates who do not give a shit about the T/Cs , they make out they do but as far as they are concerned they are all bloody foreigners. They are the lowest of the law , no principles no morals defending the indefensible , properties that are now being repossessed by the crooked banks.
They know little about Cypriot history some suggesting that the G/Cs are not indigenous to Cyprus !!!!
They are a bunch of senile old codgers , greedy bastards who support the occupiers because they misguidedly think it serves their financial interests.
Dominic posted that he has not banned me he merely does not publish my posts and you know why ? Because Miltiades has exposed him and the rest of the cheapskates for what they are. He and Malcolm take comfort in the fact that GR......, Runaway , Simon the Greek and you have had a dig at me !!!
Fine , GR the Al qaeda , Hamas , Hezbollah , suicide savages supporter is having a go at me . Im suppose to cower at such ... eminent personalities attacking me !!!!
Plonkers I call them and Plonkers they are.
Let them come on this forum and defend their support of the continuation of the division of Cyprus , let them join forces with Runaway , GR the clown and Simon the Greek.Im ready for them Zan !



I also know that the Brits who buy property in the South don't give a shit about the TCs or the GCs Milti so what does that prove? If they did then they would have studied the Cyprob and made a conscious decision not to interfere but here they are on this Forum waving Greek propaganda in our faces.

As for the Greek flags at the London/Cyprus rally...I once asked you to provide me with a picture of you, at the rally, with a banner opposing it.....It was a joke because I knew they would tear you apart. But how about this........there is a guy on youtube who has become famous for doing a stupid dance in places all around the world......Perhaps a video of you doing a traditional "Cypriot" dance wearing a T-Shirt with the slogan " Boycot the London/Cyprus Rally run under Greek flags" :lol: Sorry..That is one I would love to see :lol:

Seriously though.....How about you and you coffee shop friends forming a group and seriously protesting this outside the "Cyprus Embassy" and maybe taking a protest to Downing street and showing that GCs do not want the Greek flag either :idea:

Zan , the Brits buying in the RoC DO not BUY STOLEN FROM THE T/Cs PROPERTIES.
Quite the opposite in the pseudo state as you are well aware.
Do you also know that the Turkish mainlanders look down on the TCs whom they consider ...ungrateful and inferior to them , the opposite coulld no be more true.
The fact of the matter Zan is that the Brits and others who have been buying stolen properties dont give a shit about either the T/Cs or the G/Cs for that matter . They are English peasants , uncouth , unsophisticated low classes with an ulterior motive , buy something that in the UK only in their wildest dreams would these peasants have been able to afford.
No one can accuse me of being anti English , I think my credentials are known by most on this forum.
I dislike cheap little crooks , and I hereby call Dominic , Malcolm and the rest Cheap little crooks. I live in the UK , these people can easily sue me for telling the truth , dare they ? I doubt it since they all have something to hide.
I told them many times that I detest their lowly opinions of the island of Cyprus and its people and I do so again by telling these peasants to piss off from our island we dont need such garbage around us.
Mr Dominic , the impostor journalist , the new tough as shit moderator go to hell you senile old fool !!
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Postby zan » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:39 pm

miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:For the benefit of Dominic and Malcolm of the NCFP , those having a dig at me are members of the CF that I have no time for and never have had.
Let us take GR , a man who believes that the only option to a Cyprus solution is war , he further more supports the Taliban , Hamas , Hezbollah , Suicide bombers , Bin Laden and anyone who hates the West and in particular the USA and Britain as much as he does.
Zan , the loser , a convinced partitionist who believes that the entire world is wrong and only Turkey is right !!
Some others for whom I know nothing about since their relative short time debating the Cyprob and of course the one and only Runaway who will tell you that the only good G/C is a dead one.
My views are well known on the CF and respected by the vast majority of G/Cs , T/Cs and others. I'm controversial in as much as I consider my self to be a Cypriot above all and naturally many G/Cs have different views. I curse Turkey just as much as I curse Greece.
The serious and responsible forumers , not the cowboys who want to start a bloody war , are the ones you two should take note off.
GR is a fool always has been , Runaway a Turkish extremist , Zan rather mixed up and a partitionist .
I have stated on numerous occasions on this forum that my ambition is to see a united Cyprus and a T/C President who will [proudly call Cyprus his motherland .
Views such as mine and those of Bananiot do attract the extreme voices.



But getting rid of Greek flags at the London rally is beyond you....I credit you with guts to go for the big stuff only!!!



Miltiades.......I am not trying to portray you as a bad man......Just a salesman.....You clearly have no idea what you are doing as you have shown in attacking a group you know nothing about....
:lol: :roll:

Zan you of all people surely know my aversion to both the Greek and the Turkish flags in relation to Cyprus.
I have made many a G/C enemy because of my vociferous condemnation of the act of raising either of those foreign flags in regards to Cypriot matters.
How would you suggest I get rid of Greek flags at the annual Cyprus rally , perhaps you would care to ponder over this and advice me accordingly.
The people who have bought stolen properties I know only too well. English and other cheapskates who do not give a shit about the T/Cs , they make out they do but as far as they are concerned they are all bloody foreigners. They are the lowest of the law , no principles no morals defending the indefensible , properties that are now being repossessed by the crooked banks.
They know little about Cypriot history some suggesting that the G/Cs are not indigenous to Cyprus !!!!
They are a bunch of senile old codgers , greedy bastards who support the occupiers because they misguidedly think it serves their financial interests.
Dominic posted that he has not banned me he merely does not publish my posts and you know why ? Because Miltiades has exposed him and the rest of the cheapskates for what they are. He and Malcolm take comfort in the fact that GR......, Runaway , Simon the Greek and you have had a dig at me !!!
Fine , GR the Al qaeda , Hamas , Hezbollah , suicide savages supporter is having a go at me . Im suppose to cower at such ... eminent personalities attacking me !!!!
Plonkers I call them and Plonkers they are.
Let them come on this forum and defend their support of the continuation of the division of Cyprus , let them join forces with Runaway , GR the clown and Simon the Greek.Im ready for them Zan !



I also know that the Brits who buy property in the South don't give a shit about the TCs or the GCs Milti so what does that prove? If they did then they would have studied the Cyprob and made a conscious decision not to interfere but here they are on this Forum waving Greek propaganda in our faces.

As for the Greek flags at the London/Cyprus rally...I once asked you to provide me with a picture of you, at the rally, with a banner opposing it.....It was a joke because I knew they would tear you apart. But how about this........there is a guy on youtube who has become famous for doing a stupid dance in places all around the world......Perhaps a video of you doing a traditional "Cypriot" dance wearing a T-Shirt with the slogan " Boycot the London/Cyprus Rally run under Greek flags" :lol: Sorry..That is one I would love to see :lol:

Seriously though.....How about you and you coffee shop friends forming a group and seriously protesting this outside the "Cyprus Embassy" and maybe taking a protest to Downing street and showing that GCs do not want the Greek flag either :idea:

Zan , the Brits buying in the RoC DO not BUY STOLEN FROM THE T/Cs PROPERTIES.
Quite the opposite in the pseudo state as you are well aware.
Do you also know that the Turkish mainlanders look down on the TCs whom they consider ...ungrateful and inferior to them , the opposite coulld no be more true.
The fact of the matter Zan is that the Brits and others who have been buying stolen properties dont give a shit about either the T/Cs or the G/Cs for that matter . They are English peasants , uncouth , unsophisticated low classes with an ulterior motive , buy something that in the UK only in their wildest dreams would these peasants have been able to afford.
No one can accuse me of being anti English , I think my credentials are known by most on this forum.
I dislike cheap little crooks , and I hereby call Dominic , Malcolm and the rest Cheap little crooks. I live in the UK , these people can easily sue me for telling the truth , dare they ? I doubt it since they all have something to hide.
I told them many times that I detest their lowly opinions of the island of Cyprus and its people and I do so again by telling these peasants to piss off from our island we dont need such garbage around us.
Mr Dominic , the impostor journalist , the new tough as shit moderator go to hell you senile old fool !!


See where you don't listen to a word that is said to you..... :roll: Your BRITS are interfering in my country that has political problems. I will put it like that because you know my thinking about your "Legitimate" country mate. They pay you god money in support and laugh in the face of my peoples journey through all the embargoes and sanctions and the bullshit propaganda that even YOU repeat everywhere. I don't really care what you think beyond that and I can tell you that if you told the same to your coffee chums hen you would have to hang up your cezve and stick to popping corks. I am not anti Brit either but think the scum that have joined in the fight in Cyprus because they dont want to be deported for speaking out against the corrupt Greek government and try to offload their crimes onto the Brits in the North.......They are the scumbags mate.... :roll:

And I have asked you to give me a little respect and stop the childish horror stories about Turks.....I mix with them every day.....Who do you think you are talking to....Someone you really is walled in by your embargoes and can't see out :roll:
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