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[cypezokyli]

this thread was split out from here . erolz

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0

a user name "we won in 1974" is also historically accurate but it is still provoking.
u can argue historically as much as you want. u could be even right. the fact that the " i kypros einai elliniki" slogan was used by a certain gc gang that brought the distraction of cyprus is a good enough reason to change it.

i never agrued that the tc are innocent

islam has nothing to do with this story

[Bananiot]

That is ok cypezokyli, nothing to worry about. If this person were a Turk he you have been a grey wolf. Best to ignore them ...

[Piratis]

Well, personally I think that "Cyprus is Greek" is at least as offensive as "1/3rd of Cyprus is Turkish".

However the majority of TCs in here constantly talk about the "TurkishRNC" or about what they believe in the future will be the "Turkish Cypriot component state".

Basically they believe that a part of Cyprus is Turkish! Isn't this equally as offensive? Have we maybe got used to this offense that it doesn't bother us anymore?

Personally I like it that "KYPROS-EINAI-ELLHNIKH" is in here, so some TC members can see the reflection of themselves.

[erolz]

Well, personally I think that "Cyprus is Greek" is at least as offensive as "1/3rd of Cyprus is Turkish".

Is this a two wrongs make a right argument?

However the majority of TCs in here constantly talk about the "TurkishRNC" or about what they believe in the future will be the "Turkish Cypriot component state".

Basically they believe that a part of Cyprus is Turkish! Isn't this equally as offensive? Have we maybe got used to this offense that it doesn't bother us anymore?

You see what you want to see. The expressions that you refer too as far as they have a poltical conotation (and most of the time they are simply used as desriptive lables) have a connotation that part of Cyprus is TC. Not that part of it is Turkish. And you compare that with 'Cyprus is Greek' (all of it!) ?

Personally I like it that "KYPROS-EINAI-ELLHNIKH" is in here, so some TC members can see the reflection of themselves.

Are you being sincere that this is the reason and only reason you like the poster mentioned being in here? Are you sure there are not other reasons you like their presense?

[magikthrill]

You see what you want to see. The expressions that you refer too as far as they have a poltical conotation (and most of the time they are simply used as desriptive lables) have a connotation that part of Cyprus is TC. Not that part of it is Turkish. And you compare that with 'Cyprus is Greek' (all of it!) ?

actually piraits is right on this one. it is the Turkish Republic of NC not the TC Republic. and i wont even get into the carbon copy flag.

[erolz]

actually piraits is right on this one. it is the Turkish Republic of NC not the TC Republic. and i wont even get into the carbon copy flag.

Maybe with the TRNC but also with a TCCS?

Anyway I still maintain that 99% of the time anyone uses (GC/TC or any other) the term TRNC they are not saying that part of cyprus is Turkish they are just using a label to identify our adminstration / state (or psudeo state etc etc) and not making a political statement. Where as 'cyprus is greek' seems pretty explict to me?

If it will make you or piratis 'happier' and less able to accuse me of motives that I do not hold then I will happily refer to the TRNC as the RNC? Would that help?

[magikthrill]

you can write whatever you want to sya. and people can think whatever they want when they say it. but the fact remains that it is controlled by Turkey. KYPROS can say all he wants but the RoC is not controlled by Greece.

[Piratis]

Is this a two wrongs make a right argument?

I just mentioned the irony of the story. The majority of GCs do not support the extreme positions anymore and when such GC appears from the small minority we are all shocked. However the TCs are stuck to their most extreme ideas (partition) and nobody is shocked when not just one but the majority of them support such extreme positions.

The expressions that you refer too as far as they have a poltical conotation (and most of the time they are simply used as desriptive lables) have a connotation that part of Cyprus is TC. Not that part of it is Turkish. And you compare that with 'Cyprus is Greek' (all of it!) ?

And why part of it is TC? TCs are part of Cyprus, but there is no TC part of Cyprus. (apart from villages spread all over the island that can be described as TC villages).

[erolz]

you can write whatever you want to sya. and people can think whatever they want when they say it. but the fact remains that it is controlled by Turkey. KYPROS can say all he wants but the RoC is not controlled by Greece.

I am sorry but I thought we were discussing the thesis that the use of the phrase

'Cyprus is Greek' is equaly offensive as the terms TRNC and TCCS

I didn't realise we were discussing who controls the RNC and who controls the RoC ?

Silly me!

[magikthrill]

you can write whatever you want to sya. and people can think whatever they want when they say it. but the fact remains that it is controlled by Turkey. KYPROS can say all he wants but the RoC is not controlled by Greece.

I am sorry but I thought we were discussing the thesis that the use of the phrase

'Cyprus is Greek' is equaly offensive as the terms TRNC and TCCS

I didn't realise we were discussing who controls the RNC and who controls the RoC ?

Silly me!

uh oh mr. moderator. looks like i went off topic on that one. maybe i should be banned?