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Postby pappy_sydney » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:56 pm

DTA said

Just like to point out that the Turkish army never intended to take maras, in fact if the inhabanance did not flee it would be in gc control right now.


What a ridiculous comment !!!! First of all where is the proof that Turkey wouldn't of tried to take Varosha if the inhabitants didnt flee, even if that was the case how would the Famagustians have known that when they were being attacked and bombed mercilessly. They also knew what the Turkish army had already done to GC civilians in northern Cyprus up till then.

What do you expect to happen when the city was attacked, bombed and napalm bombed by the Turkish army/airforce, the inhabitants thought they would be back in a few days.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:16 pm

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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:09 pm

wyoming cowboy wrote:
zan wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
DTA wrote:Ha ha ha, still does does not change the fact that if they did nAot flee then maras would still be under gc control.


and if the civilians would have stayed and faced the Turk army they would have been executed just like many were that fell into their hands, the mass graves in the occuppied areas proves it....


Many here have said that the GCs left and became REFUGEES before the Turkish army reached them so I would say those mass graves were the work of EOKA thugs who were killing Makarios supporters. I have a GC friend whose father was involved in burying these people. He drove the bulldozer that covered them up so stop your crap :roll: The other 5000 that GR is now forced to quote as opposed to the 8000 you guys were claiming a while back and still your propaganda books are quoting would have been those fighting the liberation forces of the Turkish army.....Sounds about right to all right thinking minds!!!! 8)


EoKA had nothing to do with anything in cyprus after the zurich agreements were signed in 60. you need to get your facts straight. You Turks need to face the facts that your army committed war crimes during the illegal invasion of Cyprus in 74. When the Turkish actor came out a couple of years ago and admitted that he executed unarmed
Gc soldiers, it came as no surprise to Gc's ...


They just wnet undersground you are so naive if you think they disappeared or the GCs abandoned this dream.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:15 pm

pappy_sydney wrote:DTA said

Just like to point out that the Turkish army never intended to take maras, in fact if the inhabanance did not flee it would be in gc control right now.


What a ridiculous comment !!!! First of all where is the proof that Turkey wouldn't of tried to take Varosha if the inhabitants didnt flee, even if that was the case how would the Famagustians have known that when they were being attacked and bombed mercilessly. They also knew what the Turkish army had already done to GC civilians in northern Cyprus up till then.

What do you expect to happen when the city was attacked, bombed and napalm bombed by the Turkish army/airforce, the inhabitants thought they would be back in a few days.


Other major cities have been bombed but they were not deserted like Maraş.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:29 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
zan wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
DTA wrote:Ha ha ha, still does does not change the fact that if they did nAot flee then maras would still be under gc control.


and if the civilians would have stayed and faced the Turk army they would have been executed just like many were that fell into their hands, the mass graves in the occuppied areas proves it....


Many here have said that the GCs left and became REFUGEES before the Turkish army reached them so I would say those mass graves were the work of EOKA thugs who were killing Makarios supporters. I have a GC friend whose father was involved in burying these people. He drove the bulldozer that covered them up so stop your crap :roll: The other 5000 that GR is now forced to quote as opposed to the 8000 you guys were claiming a while back and still your propaganda books are quoting would have been those fighting the liberation forces of the Turkish army.....Sounds about right to all right thinking minds!!!! 8)


EoKA had nothing to do with anything in cyprus after the zurich agreements were signed in 60. you need to get your facts straight. You Turks need to face the facts that your army committed war crimes during the illegal invasion of Cyprus in 74. When the Turkish actor came out a couple of years ago and admitted that he executed unarmed
Gc soldiers, it came as no surprise to Gc's ...


They just wnet undersground you are so naive if you think they disappeared or the GCs abandoned this dream.


I think it safe to agree that most TCs did not differentiate between the original EOKA and the subsequent EOKA-B, whose main element were those ex-NG GC's which were then affiliated or taken over by the Greek/Junta officers of Greece.

Most TCs saw both groups hell bent on achieving ENOSIS.

http://www.mongabay.com/history/cyprus/ ... 67-74.html
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Postby CBBB » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:32 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
zan wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
DTA wrote:Ha ha ha, still does does not change the fact that if they did nAot flee then maras would still be under gc control.


and if the civilians would have stayed and faced the Turk army they would have been executed just like many were that fell into their hands, the mass graves in the occuppied areas proves it....


Many here have said that the GCs left and became REFUGEES before the Turkish army reached them so I would say those mass graves were the work of EOKA thugs who were killing Makarios supporters. I have a GC friend whose father was involved in burying these people. He drove the bulldozer that covered them up so stop your crap :roll: The other 5000 that GR is now forced to quote as opposed to the 8000 you guys were claiming a while back and still your propaganda books are quoting would have been those fighting the liberation forces of the Turkish army.....Sounds about right to all right thinking minds!!!! 8)


EoKA had nothing to do with anything in cyprus after the zurich agreements were signed in 60. you need to get your facts straight. You Turks need to face the facts that your army committed war crimes during the illegal invasion of Cyprus in 74. When the Turkish actor came out a couple of years ago and admitted that he executed unarmed
Gc soldiers, it came as no surprise to Gc's ...


They just wnet undersground you are so naive if you think they disappeared or the GCs abandoned this dream.


I think it safe to agree that most TCs did not differentiate between the original EOKA and the subsequent EOKA-B, whose main element were those ex-NG GC's which were then affiliated or taken over by the Greek/Junta officers of Greece.

Most TCs saw both groups hell bent on achieving ENOSIS.

http://www.mongabay.com/history/cyprus/ ... 67-74.html


...and both lots killed more GCs than TCs.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:36 pm

CBBB wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
zan wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
DTA wrote:Ha ha ha, still does does not change the fact that if they did nAot flee then maras would still be under gc control.


and if the civilians would have stayed and faced the Turk army they would have been executed just like many were that fell into their hands, the mass graves in the occuppied areas proves it....


Many here have said that the GCs left and became REFUGEES before the Turkish army reached them so I would say those mass graves were the work of EOKA thugs who were killing Makarios supporters. I have a GC friend whose father was involved in burying these people. He drove the bulldozer that covered them up so stop your crap :roll: The other 5000 that GR is now forced to quote as opposed to the 8000 you guys were claiming a while back and still your propaganda books are quoting would have been those fighting the liberation forces of the Turkish army.....Sounds about right to all right thinking minds!!!! 8)


EoKA had nothing to do with anything in cyprus after the zurich agreements were signed in 60. you need to get your facts straight. You Turks need to face the facts that your army committed war crimes during the illegal invasion of Cyprus in 74. When the Turkish actor came out a couple of years ago and admitted that he executed unarmed
Gc soldiers, it came as no surprise to Gc's ...


They just wnet undersground you are so naive if you think they disappeared or the GCs abandoned this dream.


I think it safe to agree that most TCs did not differentiate between the original EOKA and the subsequent EOKA-B, whose main element were those ex-NG GC's which were then affiliated or taken over by the Greek/Junta officers of Greece.

Most TCs saw both groups hell bent on achieving ENOSIS.

http://www.mongabay.com/history/cyprus/ ... 67-74.html


...and both lots killed more GCs than TCs.


One dead too many. All for what? Enosis?/Partition? Why could we not be allowed to get on together without foreign intervention.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:38 pm

CBBB wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
zan wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:
DTA wrote:Ha ha ha, still does does not change the fact that if they did nAot flee then maras would still be under gc control.


and if the civilians would have stayed and faced the Turk army they would have been executed just like many were that fell into their hands, the mass graves in the occuppied areas proves it....


Many here have said that the GCs left and became REFUGEES before the Turkish army reached them so I would say those mass graves were the work of EOKA thugs who were killing Makarios supporters. I have a GC friend whose father was involved in burying these people. He drove the bulldozer that covered them up so stop your crap :roll: The other 5000 that GR is now forced to quote as opposed to the 8000 you guys were claiming a while back and still your propaganda books are quoting would have been those fighting the liberation forces of the Turkish army.....Sounds about right to all right thinking minds!!!! 8)


EoKA had nothing to do with anything in cyprus after the zurich agreements were signed in 60. you need to get your facts straight. You Turks need to face the facts that your army committed war crimes during the illegal invasion of Cyprus in 74. When the Turkish actor came out a couple of years ago and admitted that he executed unarmed
Gc soldiers, it came as no surprise to Gc's ...


They just wnet undersground you are so naive if you think they disappeared or the GCs abandoned this dream.


I think it safe to agree that most TCs did not differentiate between the original EOKA and the subsequent EOKA-B, whose main element were those ex-NG GC's which were then affiliated or taken over by the Greek/Junta officers of Greece.

Most TCs saw both groups hell bent on achieving ENOSIS.

http://www.mongabay.com/history/cyprus/ ... 67-74.html


...and both lots killed more GCs than TCs.


Do you have independent evidence? which ever way you look at it TCs were against enosis and eoka for them smelled of turning Cyprus into Greece therefore Greek which the TCs knew they had to fight against with every they could.
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Postby humanist » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:05 pm

Zan
When you review your numbers of refugees through facts and recent court decisions and not from your propaganda books then we can talk numbers but until then anything you say will be regarded as being from a brainwashed fool with nothing to say...


nothing changes does it Zan .... always personalising issues and abusing individuals.

enlighten us further if you are going to make accusations.

The number of refugees ranges from 200,000 to about a 160,000 unlike you egotistical wanker I can review my comments.

What are the numbers of the settlers 50,000 , 1500,00 250,000 what are the numbers of TC's on the Island 35,000, 55,000 which is it going to be?

your a racist pathetic individual Zan and thats all there is to it. Parata mas ilithie
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:24 pm

humanist wrote:Zan
When you review your numbers of refugees through facts and recent court decisions and not from your propaganda books then we can talk numbers but until then anything you say will be regarded as being from a brainwashed fool with nothing to say...


nothing changes does it Zan .... always personalising issues and abusing individuals.

enlighten us further if you are going to make accusations.

The number of refugees ranges from 200,000 to about a 160,000 unlike you egotistical wanker I can review my comments.

What are the numbers of the settlers 50,000 , 1500,00 250,000 what are the numbers of TC's on the Island 35,000, 55,000 which is it going to be?

your a racist pathetic individual Zan and thats all there is to it. Parata mas ilithie


whats with the insults humanist?
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