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[EPSILON]

EPSILON , before the Greeks set foot in Cyprus some 3500 ago was there a Cypriot ETHNOS or did the ancient Cypriots wait for the Greeks to arrive before becoming an ETHNOS !!

in line to your above theory. the most of the countries Ethnicity should be this of monkeys.

read something how an Ethnos is created and then come back with more clear ideas.

[Piratis]

Piratis said

Cyprus is Greek and Cypriots (the vast majority of them, those who have 1000s of years history on this island) are Greek. The only reason why Cyprus is not part of the Greek state today is that this right was denied to the Cypriot people by the foreign imperialists.

well said piratis !!!!!!!!!!! to the point, miltiades and Get Real are still CONFUSED !!!! A Greek does not have to be someone from Greece only !!!! To be Cypriot is to be Greek ...our history culture language religion confirms that..a perfect analogy are the Sicilians who have a strong regional identity and are different from the Italians in many ways but are still Italians...

Well said P-S.......Have you taken it one step further and applied that to the TCs?????

Ethnic minorities exist everywhere Zan. You can have whatever identity you want. You can be "Turkish Cypriot", "Cypriot Turk", "Turk", "Cypriot", "Muslim Cypriot", "Ottoman" etc, but you should also respect our identity, and understand that we are the majority and the people who shaped the culture and identity of this island for 1000s of years.

With one hand you offer me the right to call myself what I want but with the other you take away my right by being stuck in another age where supposed Greek culture rules the day. Every culture that has passed through Cyprus has shaped our culture not just the Greek one. Natural change has made sure you are nothing like the Greeks of the mainland. Whilst you maintain your right to Greekness you deny my right to anything else. Quite different to what I am offering you. You want to oppress me but I am saying you can do what you want in your little bit of Cyprus. I say keep your preferences and I will keep mine but you say you have the right to preserve your Greekness at the expense of my culture.

Greek culture is the predominant culture in Cyprus today, not just in the past. Yes, every culture that passed through Cyprus has left its mark, but this is not something unique for Cyprus. Mainland Greece was under Ottoman rule for far more than Cyprus for example. And Asia Minor was home to some of the greatest civilizations on earth which have absolutely nothing to do with the Turks, and yet today you call Asia Minor "Turkey" because this is what the Turks, who are the majority now, want to call it. So why Cyprus should be any different? Cyprus is predominantly Greek today, just like it has been predominantly Greek for several 1000s years.

So it is about time you start respecting the identity and culture of the vast majority of the population, and understand that it is the vast majority of the population that gives to a place its identity, not a small ethnic minority.

Your ethnic minority has the right to preserve your language, religion and culture and in no way being a minority in a Greek island deprives you from those rights. After all it was your choice to became a minority in an island with a predominantly Greek population, not ours.

My "Ethnic Turkish CYPRIOT" minority will hang on to what we have and have right to as true Cypriots thank you Piratis. Our language, our culture and our rights to represent and rule ourselves........See you in a couple of hundred years time and we can talk again.........Perhaps without your ancestors plans to make sure we stay a minority with murder and making life hard so we HAVE to leave, we will be the majority by then and you can take minority status.....Make sure you leave a will stating you will not accept the status or your vote will be wasted!!!!

What do you mean "without your ancestors plans to make sure we stay a minority"? Where you planning to became the majority of Cyprus?

It is your own ancestors who created your minority by murdering innocent Cypriot people and replacing them with Settlers from Anatolia. Beyond that we never tried to change your population in Cyprus, we simply demanded our rights on our own island.

We never objected to your right to keep your language and your culture. But you have no right whatsoever to rule over lands which belong by over 80% to us. How can Kyrenia, Morfou or Famagusta towns fall under your "self-determination" when they belong by over 80% to us?

[Nikitas]

"Everyone in the north is fed up with the regime, except those that have some kind of financial itnerest. Even those who all through their lives were nationalists cannot contain their indignations anymore. They are reacting. Turkey shoudl thank the policies of the GCs which still do not inspire confidence in TCs, otherwise how many people woud support Turkey?"

From today's oped by Sener Levent in which he discusses the hardships of Lurujina residents at the Turkish army roadblocks. He lives there and is a long time commentator of the goings on in the north. There are no army road blocks in the south. Not even in the aftermath of the invasion did the south use soldiers to police its own civilians. In the north it seems to be the rule. And then some moan about fags.

[denizaksulu]

"Everyone in the north is fed up with the regime, except those that have some kind of financial itnerest. Even those who all through their lives were nationalists cannot contain their indignations anymore. They are reacting. Turkey shoudl thank the policies of the GCs which still do not inspire confidence in TCs, otherwise how many people woud support Turkey?"

From today's oped by Sener Levent in which he discusses the hardships of Lurujina residents at the Turkish army roadblocks. He lives there and is a long time commentator of the goings on in the north. There are no army road blocks in the south. Not even in the aftermath of the invasion did the south use soldiers to police its own civilians. In the north it seems to be the rule. And then some moan about fags.

Why not moan about fags? Fags have killed more people then the Turks and Greeks put together.

Sorry Nikitas.

[Nikitas]

Roving fingers unwittingly speak the truth. Fags are indeed harmful, but do not repeat this in an American milieu, or you might be labeled a racist.

[Get Real!]

read something how an Ethnos is created and then come back with more clear ideas.

So which Greek comic books do you suggest he reads?