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[aussieturk]

Look deniz you lot can fly the flag of mighty turkey but if the gc does the equal you start to demand answers.flags on mountains ffs and lit up at night i might add.what is it you want answerd for god sake ? you are a balanced person make of it what you will.

The point is GC's still align themselves as Greek, not Cypriots, otherwise you would not fly a flag of another country. True the TC's have always been this way.

[aussieturk]

I have just returned from the TRNC visiting my family and decided to take a trip down south as I have never seen my parents village. To my suprise (or suspision) what I saw was Greek mainland flags flying next to the Cyprus flag.

Gc's have always told me they are not Greek they are Cypriot, but as I suspected this isnot true. Why would you fly the Greek Flag in Cyprus. Here in Australia, we don't fly the British flag (although the union jack is imbedded in it), or the USA flag?

All I can think of is Enosis still exists.

I think that you are implying that coming out of the "trnc" which DOES NOT fly the Turkish flag !!!
Mate there is nothing that I as a Cypriot hate more than to see foreign flags flying in any part of Cyprus , indeed I have remonstrated many times with St Nicholas church in Limassol for persistently flying the Greek flag and not our flag.
The instances however of Greek flags flying in the RoC if compared to the Turkish flags in the occupied parts fail into insignificance. Frankly there is not one street in the "TRNC" THAT DOES NOT FLY THE TURKISH FLAG AS WELL AS ALL PETROL STATIONS.
May I also say that I consider both foreign flags an insult to Cyprus.
Your suspicions are .....crap. We the G/Cs as well as countless T/Cs have come of age , Cyprus is our homeland , which is yours mate ?

My homeland is Australia as I was born there but my roots are Cyprus. My parents, uncles aunties, cousins all live in Cyprus. I am probably related to half the TC's in the north.

Yes lots of Turkish flags flying in the North.

[paliometoxo]

lots is putting it lightly... saying tones would be also. if i pass a building in the north with out a turkish flag i am surprised

[EPSILON]

I have just returned from the TRNC visiting my family and decided to take a trip down south as I have never seen my parents village. To my suprise (or suspision) what I saw was Greek mainland flags flying next to the Cyprus flag.

Gc's have always told me they are not Greek they are Cypriot, but as I suspected this isnot true. Why would you fly the Greek Flag in Cyprus. Here in Australia, we don't fly the British flag (although the union jack is imbedded in it), or the USA flag?

All I can think of is Enosis still exists.

Greek flag is provided by ROC's constidution by dear- if you and some others have a problem with this just do not make it our problem

Hang on a minute, my dear. That piece-of-shit constitution, foisted on the Cypriot people by foreigners and imperialists for their benefit and not ours, also gave Turkey intervention rights. Me and some others have a problem with this. How about you?

Or don't you care, so long as you have the right to fly the blue and white stripes of Modern Greece?

May be you forget the reason for which this bshet (i agree) consitution given -may be you forget that, before this consitution, only Greek flags were available in Cyprus (exempt of course the British occupators flag).

And even this provision for Greek flag in consitution was provided just to lagalize the right of a Turkish flag to be also use (from no where of course)- i do not have any info that any Turkish flag was available or someone wanted to have ,including T/cs , before 1954. Do not mix up the two cases (Ethinicities ) rights in Cyprus.There is a basic difference which G/cs trying to forget or are pushed to forget just to hide their and particularly their leadership disability to defend their history and rights in the Island.

[EPSILON]

Look deniz you lot can fly the flag of mighty turkey but if the gc does the equal you start to demand answers.flags on mountains ffs and lit up at night i might add.what is it you want answerd for god sake ? you are a balanced person make of it what you will.

The point is GC's still align themselves as Greek, not Cypriots, otherwise you would not fly a flag of another country. True the TC's have always been this way.

If this makes you feel better, as from now on, i will call myselve Pakistani . Several idiots propaganta may convist us to do so finally.

[miltiades]

EPSILON , before the Greeks set foot in Cyprus some 3500 ago was there a Cypriot ETHNOS or did the ancient Cypriots wait for the Greeks to arrive before becoming an ETHNOS !!

[Malapapa]

Greek flag is provided by ROC's constidution by dear- if you and some others have a problem with this just do not make it our problem

Hang on a minute, my dear. That piece-of-shit constitution, foisted on the Cypriot people by foreigners and imperialists for their benefit and not ours, also gave Turkey intervention rights. Me and some others have a problem with this. How about you?

Or don't you care, so long as you have the right to fly the blue and white stripes of Modern Greece?

May be you forget the reason for which this bshet (i agree) consitution given -

No, I already mentioned the reason above. It was to benefit foreigners and imperialists. Unless you have another theory?

may be you forget that, before this consitution, only Greek flags were available in Cyprus (exempt of course the British occupators flag).

And even this provision for Greek flag in consitution was provided just to lagalize the right of a Turkish flag to be also use (from no where of course)- i do not have any info that any Turkish flag was available or someone wanted to have ,including T/cs , before 1954. Do not mix up the two cases (Ethinicities ) rights in Cyprus.There is a basic difference which G/cs trying to forget or are pushed to forget just to hide their and particularly their leadership disability to defend their history and rights in the Island.

I don't follow you. I'm not sure whether it's because of your incoherent English or because of your incoherent argument, or both.

Maybe that's the problem. Because you speak modern Greek only, you think like a modern Greek only.

I'm not impressed by the way modern Greeks think. They've made a huge mess of their own country – not to mention the huge mess they helped create in Cyprus.

[denizaksulu]

You are "aussieturk" not "aussieturkcyp". Change your name and we will speak to you.

Hahaha very funny, but still doesn't answer the question.

Hay numbskull ! why does the north fly the turkish flag? hope you took many photos unlike we would be able to now run along back to aussie land and shut up.( and thats me being mild )

Ok, but two wrongs do not make ONE right. You can still answer the question. Can you please?

Look deniz you lot can fly the flag of mighty turkey but if the gc does the equal you start to demand answers.flags on mountains ffs and lit up at night i might add.what is it you want answerd for god sake ? you are a ballanced person make of it what you will.

I don't know who 'my lot' are; there are those that DO NOT SUPPORT the flags on the mountain me included. I have never supported these flags even before the negotiations for peace began. To have these flags there whilst negotiations take place is great hypocricy IMO. Other TCs will disagree but that is my opinion.

[bill cobbett]

Can just say this about those bleeding statues of that Atadick chap...

They are everywhere!... OK, they are not as huge as the Pacmen on mountainsides, which are also proliferating, but every school and public place, every street corner seems to have one.

[zan]

Piratis said

Cyprus is Greek and Cypriots (the vast majority of them, those who have 1000s of years history on this island) are Greek. The only reason why Cyprus is not part of the Greek state today is that this right was denied to the Cypriot people by the foreign imperialists.

well said piratis !!!!!!!!!!! to the point, miltiades and Get Real are still CONFUSED !!!! A Greek does not have to be someone from Greece only !!!! To be Cypriot is to be Greek ...our history culture language religion confirms that..a perfect analogy are the Sicilians who have a strong regional identity and are different from the Italians in many ways but are still Italians...

Well said P-S.......Have you taken it one step further and applied that to the TCs?????

Ethnic minorities exist everywhere Zan. You can have whatever identity you want. You can be "Turkish Cypriot", "Cypriot Turk", "Turk", "Cypriot", "Muslim Cypriot", "Ottoman" etc, but you should also respect our identity, and understand that we are the majority and the people who shaped the culture and identity of this island for 1000s of years.

With one hand you offer me the right to call myself what I want but with the other you take away my right by being stuck in another age where supposed Greek culture rules the day. Every culture that has passed through Cyprus has shaped our culture not just the Greek one. Natural change has made sure you are nothing like the Greeks of the mainland. Whilst you maintain your right to Greekness you deny my right to anything else. Quite different to what I am offering you. You want to oppress me but I am saying you can do what you want in your little bit of Cyprus. I say keep your preferences and I will keep mine but you say you have the right to preserve your Greekness at the expense of my culture.