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Postby Nikitas » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:35 am

Tsalikidis is Greek and he commands the National Guard and NOTHING else. Compare his role with that of the Turk in the north and you will start to get somewhere.

The artists I mentioned are top earners in Greece, not Cyprus.

You are in a hysterical little girl mode and ranting again. You obviously know very little about Cyprus and zilch about Greece.
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Postby zan » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:39 am

Nikitas wrote:Tsalikidis is Greek and he commands the National Guard and NOTHING else. Compare his role with that of the Turk in the north and you will start to get somewhere.

The artists I mentioned are top earners in Greece, not Cyprus.

You are in a hysterical little girl mode and ranting again. You obviously know very little about Cyprus and zilch about Greece.


Are you getting any inside information about what else Greece is doing for you Nikitas........ :oops: What am I saying....YOu wouldn't tell us even if you knew......OR...Are you getting the information from the newspapers like the rest of us.....Perhaps then you have about as much information as we do.....Stop trying to tell us that there is no "Cooperation" :wink: With Geece...It makes you sound childish......I can really see Greece keeping out of this and sure they have fooled the world :roll: :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:07 am

You made a leap of fantasy again. I never said there is no cooperation. What I did say is that Cypriots have more business presence in Greece than the other way round and gave evidence to support my point.

Greece is not Cyprus' major trading partner, it is not even close to being its most significant tourism source, and the institutional differenced between the two grow wider with time. Cyprus has a common law legal system, Greece a continental one based on the Napoleonic codes. Cyprus has a modern efficient civil service, Greece is mired in its copy of the French administration. The ist goes on and on.

The need to imagine that the two are one is understandable, but it is not supported by evidence. On the contraty evidence shows that they are widely divergent.
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Postby zan » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:09 am

Nikitas wrote:You made a leap of fantasy again. I never said there is no cooperation. What I did say is that Cypriots have more business presence in Greece than the other way round and gave evidence to support my point.

Greece is not Cyprus' major trading partner, it is not even close to being its most significant tourism source, and the institutional differenced between the two grow wider with time. Cyprus has a common law legal system, Greece a continental one based on the Napoleonic codes. Cyprus has a modern efficient civil service, Greece is mired in its copy of the French administration. The ist goes on and on.

The need to imagine that the two are one is understandable, but it is not supported by evidence. On the contraty evidence shows that they are widely divergent.


Yet still your various leaders make pilgrimages to this ancient land for advise and support...... :roll: :roll:
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:16 am

Yes they do for obvious reasons. To go from that to saying that Greece has control of the south in the same way that Turkey has over the north is fantasy.

You need to read som TC commentators to see what they say about the asphyxiating embrace of Turkey over the north and what some TCs think about this. The article that strated this thread is a good start.
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Postby zan » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:21 am

Nikitas wrote:Yes they do for obvious reasons. To go from that to saying that Greece has control of the south in the same way that Turkey has over the north is fantasy.

You need to read som TC commentators to see what they say about the asphyxiating embrace of Turkey over the north and what some TCs think about this. The article that strated this thread is a good start.


The "RoC" can no more go against Greece than the TRNC can go against Turkey......Little old "RoC" in the waters of he EU trying survive :lol:

Now can you give me any instances where Greece and the "RoC" have had a public falling out over policy???? :?
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:35 am

we are not talking "go against". We are talking about preserving its independence and institutions, and the RoC has obviously done this. The RoC is a state as different from Greece as Greece is from the UK. This is the point that you do not want to see.

Pointing to cooperation between the two, which takes place for obvious reasons, is not evidence that Greece and Greek culture has swallowed up Cyprus. Nor has the business establishment of Greece been given colonial style privieges in Cyprus, in fact Cypriots are more active and making more money in Greece than the other way round. You are more likelly to find Cypriot companies involved in major projects in Greece, like airports and the Rio Bridge, than Greek companies in Cyprus. These are facts that point to a healthy divergence between the two.

recently Greece has changed its tax laws to prohibit Greeks from taking advantage of Cyprus company formation. Cyprus accountants and tax consultants are thinking of taking Greece to the European Court of Justice over this move. This does not sound like close cooperation.
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Postby zan » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:43 am

Nikitas wrote:we are not talking "go against". We are talking about preserving its independence and institutions, and the RoC has obviously done this. The RoC is a state as different from Greece as Greece is from the UK. This is the point that you do not want to see.

Pointing to cooperation between the two, which takes place for obvious reasons, is not evidence that Greece and Greek culture has swallowed up Cyprus. Nor has the business establishment of Greece been given colonial style privieges in Cyprus, in fact Cypriots are more active and making more money in Greece than the other way round. You are more likelly to find Cypriot companies involved in major projects in Greece, like airports and the Rio Bridge, than Greek companies in Cyprus. These are facts that point to a healthy divergence between the two.

recently Greece has changed its tax laws to prohibit Greeks from taking advantage of Cyprus company formation. Cyprus accountants and tax consultants are thinking of taking Greece to the European Court of Justice over this move. This does not sound like close cooperation.


According tomost on this forum the Greek culture is exactly what makes Cyprus Greek Nikitas so I wish you guys would make up your minds...


As to a slight falling out with Greek business at the moment...Well...I don't think we should be too surprised about that.....Dropping Greece at its most needy and Greece dropping Cyprus seems to be an inherent trate.http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=31075
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:08 pm

"According tomost on this forum the Greek culture is exactly what makes Cyprus Greek "

Reminds me of my cousin who used to weep at the mention of the Acropolis. Then finally he makes it to Athens and goes to see his beloved monument and once he gets there has a roaring fight with the guard in what was instant culture clash. So much for cultural identity.
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Postby zan » Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:10 pm

Nikitas wrote:"According tomost on this forum the Greek culture is exactly what makes Cyprus Greek "

Reminds me of my cousin who used to weep at the mention of the Acropolis. Then finally he makes it to Athens and goes to see his beloved monument and once he gets there has a roaring fight with the guard in what was instant culture clash. So much for cultural identity.



Exactly and please dont mix the two up again......Politics and cultural identity that is...... :arrow: :idea:
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