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[halil]

it was reported on Fileleftheros ;
“The Commission is aware that the Government of the Republic of Cyprus declared the three ports mentioned in your question closed after the 1974 events. However, it is the no prohibition under general international law to enter and leave these seaports. There is no trade embargo imposed on the northern part of Cyprus, either by the UN Security Council or the EU.”

lots of arguments will come out after above Angela Filote words. Is there any UN security council or EU decision about Famagusta,Kyrenia and Gemikonağı(Karavostasi) sea ports ?

credible links pls !

[bill cobbett]

Kalimera Halil.

[denizaksulu]

Kallisperas BillC

[halil]

ok tell us if there is no UN security council or EU desicion on the ports, how the ''ROC'' can punish the ship holders .

she said ''In the northern part of Cyprus by Security Council has not made any trade embargo, under general international law (TRNC ports) '' still i am confused.what exactly happening in practice than. ships are always under the treat of ''ROC'' to visit the northern part of the ports.

few days ago Jose Manuel Barroso did not hesitate to establish a parallel between the islands of Helgoland,Theuta region of Spain,Gibraltar and Meligia and northern Cyprus. Are they new signs of trying to find the ways from this ports arguments.

[bill cobbett]

OK my take on this, stress it is a personal take, others may as ever know better...

The Regime is in Coventry > The UN Resolutions call on member states to take no action to recognise it, so it is public policy in every member state to not recognise the Regime and to respect the Republic as the sole authority (from which follow the FIR and ports issue) and to also respect the (single) Sovereignty of CY . As far as aware the rseolutions don't go in to specifics like FIRs and direct trade out of ports, but these follow on as a consequence.

Shipping rules are diff from airport/FIR regulations. Shippers working out of Occupied Ports need a bill of lading and it's up the the receiving country whether to accept or refuse the bill, whether the goods meet local standars and whether duties have been paid... a lot will presumably depend on the nature of the goods.

Then on top of that are an awful lot of EU Regulations, which probably prevent direct trade to EU ports of any goods that don't meet the sort of EU standards that goods travelling across the buffer zone have to meet. The effect of these is prob to prevent goods going straight to EU ports, certainly without the risk of being turned away for not meeting EU standards and also, and most, most importantly, for being without the clearance paperwork from the appropriate department of the Republic.

[Piratis]

There is no embargo Halil. Get over it. Republic of Cyprus can declare which are the legal ports in its own territory, and the territory of RoC is the whole Cyprus. Get it now?

[Get Real!]

International Trading issues…

“The World Trade Organization (WTO) is the only global international organization dealing with the rules of trade between nations. At its heart are the WTO agreements, negotiated and signed by the bulk of the world’s trading nations and ratified in their parliaments. The goal is to help producers of goods and services, exporters, and importers conduct their business.”

http://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/wha ... atis_e.htm


International Maritime issues…

The International Maritime Organization is a specialized agency of the United Nations which is responsible for measures to improve the safety and security of international shipping and to prevent marine pollution from ships. It is also involved in legal matters, including liability and compensation issues and the facilitation of international maritime traffic. It was established by means of a Convention adopted under the auspices of the United Nations in Geneva on 17 March 1948 and met for the first time in January 1959.

Only a country can become a Member of IMO. IMO currently has 169 Member States.

http://www.imo.org/About/mainframe.asp?topic_id=774


International Aviation issues…

The Convention on International Civil Aviation clearly DIRECTLY LINKS the United Nations with any barring or debarring of country/state memberships…

http://www.icao.int/icaonet/arch/doc/7300/7300_9ed.pdf


The RoC declaration for ports in the occupied area…

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/c ... enDocument

[halil]

International Trading issues…

“The World Trade Organization (WTO) is the only global international organization dealing with the rules of trade between nations. At its heart are the WTO agreements, negotiated and signed by the bulk of the world’s trading nations and ratified in their parliaments. The goal is to help producers of goods and services, exporters, and importers conduct their business.”

http://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/wha ... atis_e.htm


International Maritime issues…

The International Maritime Organization is a specialized agency of the United Nations which is responsible for measures to improve the safety and security of international shipping and to prevent marine pollution from ships. It is also involved in legal matters, including liability and compensation issues and the facilitation of international maritime traffic. It was established by means of a Convention adopted under the auspices of the United Nations in Geneva on 17 March 1948 and met for the first time in January 1959.

Only a country can become a Member of IMO. IMO currently has 169 Member States.

http://www.imo.org/About/mainframe.asp?topic_id=774


International Aviation issues…

The Convention on International Civil Aviation clearly DIRECTLY LINKS the United Nations with any barring or debarring of country/state memberships…

http://www.icao.int/icaonet/arch/doc/7300/7300_9ed.pdf


The RoC declaration for ports in the occupied area…

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/c ... enDocument

none of them are restrictions from UN security council or EU.......

what shows only ''ROC'' declared the three ports closed after the 1974 events. it is only declaration ..... no restrictions from UN SC or EU.

[Kikapu]

International Trading issues…

“The World Trade Organization (WTO) is the only global international organization dealing with the rules of trade between nations. At its heart are the WTO agreements, negotiated and signed by the bulk of the world’s trading nations and ratified in their parliaments. The goal is to help producers of goods and services, exporters, and importers conduct their business.”

http://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/wha ... atis_e.htm


International Maritime issues…

The International Maritime Organization is a specialized agency of the United Nations which is responsible for measures to improve the safety and security of international shipping and to prevent marine pollution from ships. It is also involved in legal matters, including liability and compensation issues and the facilitation of international maritime traffic. It was established by means of a Convention adopted under the auspices of the United Nations in Geneva on 17 March 1948 and met for the first time in January 1959.

Only a country can become a Member of IMO. IMO currently has 169 Member States.

http://www.imo.org/About/mainframe.asp?topic_id=774


International Aviation issues…

The Convention on International Civil Aviation clearly DIRECTLY LINKS the United Nations with any barring or debarring of country/state memberships…

http://www.icao.int/icaonet/arch/doc/7300/7300_9ed.pdf


The RoC declaration for ports in the occupied area…

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/c ... enDocument

none of them are restrictions from UN security council or EU.......

what shows only ''ROC'' declared the three ports closed after the 1974 events. it is only declaration ..... no restrictions from UN SC or EU.

Halil, if you post a "no trespassing" sign on your property, then it is illegal for anyone to trespass. It does not require a declaration by the UN/EU to make your property a "no go area". Just your "no trespassing" sign will do and the law will take care of the trespassers.!

Same with the RoC when she declares "no trespassing" on any part of her territory, which is the whole island, declared by the UN/EU.!

I can't make it any clearer than that to you.!

[Raymanoff]

IQ patata re Halil.... simple law, and you fail to understand it