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[halil]

Insancığım ...........which one do u like ?
Federation or Partition............

[Me Ed]

Kosovo does not enjoy full recognition, as only 69 out of 192 (36%) UN member states have formally recognised it.

Like the "turkish" repubilc of northern cyprus it looks unlikely to get full recognition from all member states and it is as likely to join the EU as Turkey.

[insan]

Insancığım ...........which one do u like ?
Federation or Partition............

Halil'ciğim; you well know that until about two years ago i was a fierce supporter of a federation... but not till then...

I even have doubts about after an agreed partition whether the politicians and big capital owners of 2 communities would get on well and contribute to each other's economy, have fairly good interstate relations or keep undermineing each other...

Ps: Görüşemeyiyoruk bu aralar hiç...

[Get Real!]

The ones who applauded the biased reports of UN which led the recognition of the GC administration as the sole representative of whole Cyprus in 1964 and onwards;

You're fantasizing rubbish again to elevate your importance! The RoC came into existence in 1960 and CONTINUED to function as a sovereign UN member country right up to today, MINUS a trouble making and useless Ottoman remnant minority that contributed NEXT TO ZERO from the start!

[halil]

Insancığım ...........which one do u like ?
Federation or Partition............

Halil'ciğim; you well know that until about two years ago i was a fierce supporter of a federation... but not till then...

I even have doubts about after an agreed partition whether the politicians and big capital owners of 2 communities would get on well and contribute to each other's economy, have fairly good interstate relations or keep undermineing each other...

Ps: Görüşemeyiyoruk bu aralar hiç...

I am still hoping that BBF will work for people of the Cyprus.

telefonun bende var...araycam.

[insan]

The ones who applauded the biased reports of UN which led the recognition of the GC administration as the sole representative of whole Cyprus in 1964 and onwards;

You're fantasizing rubbish again to elevate your importance! The RoC came into existence in 1960 and CONTINUED to function as a sovereign UN member country right up to today, MINUS a trouble making and useless Ottoman remnant minority that contributed NEXT TO ZERO from the start!

The ones who applauded the biased reports of UN which led the recognition of the GC administration as the sole representative of whole Cyprus in 1964 and onwards; now crying because the recognition of Kosovo's independence supposedly violates the UN resolution 1244... Laughing Very funny ain't it?

In it's essential, they don't actually care about international law because they too violated/violate international law in the name of national and global interests...


Now they worry about such actions e.g recognizing Kosovo as an independent state by supposedly violating the UN resolution 1244 would lead instability in their countries and stimulate the seccessionist movements further of the oppressed ethnic groups...

Yeah, every "big boy" like to play his game how it suits...

If it suits "violating" the so-called, biased, global policy rooted and highly influenced under then the circumstances type UN resolutions regarding Cyprus; they will go for it...

Cry as much as you wish... it won't change anything...


Get over it you remnant of the Assyrian "invaders"!

[Kikapu]

The UN has already worked out a formula based on ownership of problem properties. According to their study, problematic Greek Cypriot properties cover about 1.5 million donums (skales). They estimate that about half a million will be returned to the Greek Cypriots as a result of territorial adjustments. Turkish Cypriot properties in the south are also about half a million skales, and these have been taken over by the Turkish Cypriot state and exchanged for Greek Cypriot land. This land in the south can be given to Greek Cypriots in exchange, leaving about 700,000 skales out of which half will be retuned and the rest compensated.

My question is, what ever happened to the remaining 300,000 Dönüms of GC land from the 1.5 million mentioned above.?:?

Security and guarantees are issues that would be decided at a future international conference, once the property issue is resolved. Britain is willing to give up its interventionist rights, while the Turkish State Minister Bagis recently spoke of the possibility of a complete withdrawal of troops

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Greece also said NO to guarantorship, but Turkey has not, therefore this would be a deal breaker me thinks.!

The property issue cannot differ much from Anan 5 as it is not realistic that the Turkish Cypriots who voted yes in 2004 to be asked to vote on a worse map. It would be equally unrealistic that the Greek Cypriots who voted no in 2004 would vote yes to a plan that did not include Morphou.

Why not differ from Annan 5.?? Since when was the AP written by God.??

The article suggests that the TCs basically got a "bad deal" in 2004, therefore they cannot be asked to take a even worse deal now.!

The GCs were never given all of Morphou in 2004, so unless it is all returned, I can't see them agreeing to anything less.!

The UN believes that Christofias’ proposal for Famagusta is the most dangerous bait for partition. If the Cyprus problem is declared unsolvable by the end of the year then this proposal could be a tool in Turkey’s hands. The return of Famagasta in return for removal of the isolation of the Turkish Cypriots and removing all blocks to the chapters in Turkey’s EU entry negotiations, would solve all her problems, except that of Cyprus

UN and Turkey has high hopes in that case if they think they can get so much, in return just for Verosa.!:roll:

The European solution that all those who are against federation are calling for will come at a future stage with recognition of the TRNC in return for the buffer zone being given back to the Republic of Cyprus and the entry of the north into the EU as a separate state.

This is my favourite one.!

The "trnc" will get recognised, AND become a EU member as a separate state.!

If there is a permanent partition, agreed or forced, the "trnc" and Turkey will have a better chance landing a man on Mars than ever being allowed to become a EU members.!

[humanist]

well looks like the TC's will get their wish .... how will they make a functional society of 35.000? OOOppps I forget they wont the settlers will tell them what to do.

[humanist]

Isn't it interesting that Edrogan and Cameron have signed a timeline for Cyprus and the Cypriot leaders haven't been consulted .... nice one. Is that the freedom you are seeking you fools ..... you'd still be told what to do by the Turks. I guess where enosis has failed taksim has succeeded

[humanist]

who is good at formulating letters . I believe we need to write one a send to Cameron to stay out of gifting Cyprus to the Turks.