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[Omer Seyhan]

The so called Armenian Genocide is nothing but a fabricated bargaining chip that has only recently emerged in the time of need for some politicians.

Yes people died, lots of Turks died in the hands of the Armenian gangs as well, no one denies it, but it is not a "genocide".

Plus whatever the Ottomans did, they did it in their own time.

Turks fought hard to get rid of the Ottoman curse, so why should they take the blame of some Empire they fought to separate themselves from?

It is a load of bullshit and super disrespectful to the dead, using their death for political stunts.

If anyone can be blamed today for the murders of their old Empire, the fucking Brits should the first on the list, who still love and praise their rotten fucking Empire, and then the French should be hung for what they did in Africa, there is no excuse, followed that can be the Dutch and of course the god dam Yankee petrol mongers have to pay for what they did ALL over the world in the last century, including Vietnam and the 200,000 civilians they nuked in Japan!

Plus when that happens, you will have to be charged for burying 3 villages under ground, are you ready to take the blame for what EOKA did?

THEN we can talk about what the Ottomans did!

What's an indigenous Cypriot doing, acting as an apologist over the Armenian genocide? I don't get it. What a fake you turned out to be.

So he is Cypriot....I'm really confused. What's a nice Cypriot lad like Shahmaran doing working as a voluntary spokesperson (not a very good one) for Turkey. Turkey has enough Turkish Harvard trained lawyers, historians and the best non-Turkish ones that money can buy. They don't need a guy who probably comes from Ponders End, hence the name Shahmaran. I've visited that supermarket many times......

I'm from Lefke, Omar, never lived in Ponders End or whatever.

It is pretty curious though, why would 2 people start all this ad hominem scrutiny about my origins, instead of dealing with the topic at hand, simultaneously?

Because I think you are wasting your time fighting Turkey's battle with the Armenians. You should focus on Cyprus, we have our own problems. To focus on Armenia is a distraction / a false issue that outsiders want us to waste our time bickering over.

[shahmaran]

It matters not where I am from.

The whole ordeal stinks, that's what I am saying.

Armenia needs this "genocide" chip in order to break out of her open prison, she is surrounded by nothing but enemy and her only way out to the waters is by blackmailing Turkey.

Why have they waited this long to start claiming whatever it is that they want?

This is nothing new...

Maybe what you say is true, maybe not, I don't care nor should you. You won't catch me on steroids over the escalating situation in Afghanistan. Fuck'em.

It is a forum and a political section on it.

We come here to express and exchange views, not sure what is it that you expect me to do in such an environment.

[shahmaran]

The so called Armenian Genocide is nothing but a fabricated bargaining chip that has only recently emerged in the time of need for some politicians.

Yes people died, lots of Turks died in the hands of the Armenian gangs as well, no one denies it, but it is not a "genocide".

Plus whatever the Ottomans did, they did it in their own time.

Turks fought hard to get rid of the Ottoman curse, so why should they take the blame of some Empire they fought to separate themselves from?

It is a load of bullshit and super disrespectful to the dead, using their death for political stunts.

If anyone can be blamed today for the murders of their old Empire, the fucking Brits should the first on the list, who still love and praise their rotten fucking Empire, and then the French should be hung for what they did in Africa, there is no excuse, followed that can be the Dutch and of course the god dam Yankee petrol mongers have to pay for what they did ALL over the world in the last century, including Vietnam and the 200,000 civilians they nuked in Japan!

Plus when that happens, you will have to be charged for burying 3 villages under ground, are you ready to take the blame for what EOKA did?

THEN we can talk about what the Ottomans did!

What's an indigenous Cypriot doing, acting as an apologist over the Armenian genocide? I don't get it. What a fake you turned out to be.

So he is Cypriot....I'm really confused. What's a nice Cypriot lad like Shahmaran doing working as a voluntary spokesperson (not a very good one) for Turkey. Turkey has enough Turkish Harvard trained lawyers, historians and the best non-Turkish ones that money can buy. They don't need a guy who probably comes from Ponders End, hence the name Shahmaran. I've visited that supermarket many times......

I'm from Lefke, Omar, never lived in Ponders End or whatever.

It is pretty curious though, why would 2 people start all this ad hominem scrutiny about my origins, instead of dealing with the topic at hand, simultaneously?

Because I think you are wasting your time fighting Turkey's battle with the Armenians. You should focus on Cyprus, we have our own problems. To focus on Armenia is a distraction / a false issue that outsiders want us to waste our time bickering over.

I disaggree my friend.

I think most of the political issues around the world usually boil down to the same few things, mostly involving imperialists and nationalists or religion.

Cyprus too has suffered from similar problems, we have been divided, what is more to say?

Armenia played a VERY active role along with the imperialists in order to divide Turkey.

They failed miserably.

So weather you like Turkey or not, does not matter, her fight played an important role in the powers to be to loose their grip on some issues, and it is worth the respect.

Not many people in history have fought Imperial forces and actually won.

[denizaksulu]

not even a third the amount of armenians they killed.. im not saying its ok for turks to die but if they are going to call 120 a kind of genocide and then millions of armenians not even murder is kind of stupid of turkey.. like 1 turk = 100000 normal people.. i think thats what the turks think.. any amount of death is horrible death i mean murder but come on turkey...

The so called Armenian Genocide is nothing but a fabricated bargaining chip that has only recently emerged in the time of need for some politicians.

Yes people died, lots of Turks died in the hands of the Armenian gangs as well, no one denies it, but it is not a "genocide".

Plus whatever the Ottomans did, they did it in their own time.

Turks fought hard to get rid of the Ottoman curse, so why should they take the blame of some Empire they fought to separate themselves from?

It is a load of bullshit and super disrespectful to the dead, using their death for political stunts.

If anyone can be blamed today for the murders of their old Empire, the fucking Brits should the first on the list, who still love and praise their rotten fucking Empire, and then the French should be hung for what they did in Africa, there is no excuse, followed that can be the Dutch and of course the god dam Yankee petrol mongers have to pay for what they did ALL over the world in the last century, including Vietnam and the 200,000 civilians they nuked in Japan!

Plus when that happens, you will have to be charged for burying 3 villages under ground, are you ready to take the blame for what EOKA did?

THEN we can talk about what the Ottomans did!

It is said that,Ataturk acknowledged the responsibility of the Ittihad ve Terakki (Progress and Union) in the slaughter of the Armenians. I dont suppose you call him a liar do you?

[Omer Seyhan]

Didn't Ataturk alternative between the lines? Not aware of him being too much into football, but I did read somewhere he had pretty impressive dribbling skills...

[shahmaran]

not even a third the amount of armenians they killed.. im not saying its ok for turks to die but if they are going to call 120 a kind of genocide and then millions of armenians not even murder is kind of stupid of turkey.. like 1 turk = 100000 normal people.. i think thats what the turks think.. any amount of death is horrible death i mean murder but come on turkey...

The so called Armenian Genocide is nothing but a fabricated bargaining chip that has only recently emerged in the time of need for some politicians.

Yes people died, lots of Turks died in the hands of the Armenian gangs as well, no one denies it, but it is not a "genocide".

Plus whatever the Ottomans did, they did it in their own time.

Turks fought hard to get rid of the Ottoman curse, so why should they take the blame of some Empire they fought to separate themselves from?

It is a load of bullshit and super disrespectful to the dead, using their death for political stunts.

If anyone can be blamed today for the murders of their old Empire, the fucking Brits should the first on the list, who still love and praise their rotten fucking Empire, and then the French should be hung for what they did in Africa, there is no excuse, followed that can be the Dutch and of course the god dam Yankee petrol mongers have to pay for what they did ALL over the world in the last century, including Vietnam and the 200,000 civilians they nuked in Japan!

Plus when that happens, you will have to be charged for burying 3 villages under ground, are you ready to take the blame for what EOKA did?

THEN we can talk about what the Ottomans did!

It is said that,Ataturk acknowledged the responsibility of the Ittihad ve Terakki (Progress and Union) in the slaughter of the Armenians. I dont suppose you call him a liar do you?

Being responsible for peoples death and "genocide" can be very distant from each other.

Circumstances need close examination and I believe Armenia is totally against any research on the matter.

That alone says a lot to me.

[runaway]

not even a third the amount of armenians they killed.. im not saying its ok for turks to die but if they are going to call 120 a kind of genocide and then millions of armenians not even murder is kind of stupid of turkey.. like 1 turk = 100000 normal people.. i think thats what the turks think.. any amount of death is horrible death i mean murder but come on turkey...

The so called Armenian Genocide is nothing but a fabricated bargaining chip that has only recently emerged in the time of need for some politicians.

Yes people died, lots of Turks died in the hands of the Armenian gangs as well, no one denies it, but it is not a "genocide".

Plus whatever the Ottomans did, they did it in their own time.

Turks fought hard to get rid of the Ottoman curse, so why should they take the blame of some Empire they fought to separate themselves from?

It is a load of bullshit and super disrespectful to the dead, using their death for political stunts.

If anyone can be blamed today for the murders of their old Empire, the fucking Brits should the first on the list, who still love and praise their rotten fucking Empire, and then the French should be hung for what they did in Africa, there is no excuse, followed that can be the Dutch and of course the god dam Yankee petrol mongers have to pay for what they did ALL over the world in the last century, including Vietnam and the 200,000 civilians they nuked in Japan!

Plus when that happens, you will have to be charged for burying 3 villages under ground, are you ready to take the blame for what EOKA did?

THEN we can talk about what the Ottomans did!

It is said that,Ataturk acknowledged the responsibility of the Ittihad ve Terakki (Progress and Union) in the slaughter of the Armenians. I dont suppose you call him a liar do you?

Being responsible for peoples death and "genocide" can be very distant from each other.

Circumstances need close examination and I believe Armenia is totally against any research on the matter.

That alone says a lot to me.

What about the Turks killed by armenian gangs? East Anatolia is full of mass graves. Armenia will lose big time if archives are opened and they are fucking rejecting it.

[shahmaran]

Nah that is the problem man, a good Turk is a dead Turk, right?

In reality the more you lobby, the more the world "cares" about you and your problems, not because they are worth caring for.

[kurupetos]

Nah that is the problem man, a good Turk is a dead Turk, right?

If you say so it must be true!

[Malapapa]

Nah that is the problem man, a good Turk is a dead Turk, right?

WTF does an "indigenous Cypriot" care? Why don't you worry about your own folk?