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Postby boomerang » Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:02 pm

Fule plays down the magic of EU membership
By Toby Vogel
29.07.2010 / 05:40 CET

Stefan Fule, the European commissioner for enlargement, says that progress on joining the EU is in the hands of the applicant countries themselves.
This autumn, several looming deadlines could intensify the difficulties facing Štefan Füle, the European commissioner for enlargement and the neighbourhood policy. They are neatly grouped around the second week of November, when Füle is to present the Commission's progress reports on the Union's would-be members, from Croatia in the north-west Balkans to Turkey down to the south and east. Iceland, whose membership talks were launched on Tuesday (27 July), is one of the few bright spots in that picture – for now.

Cyprus problem

The United Nations wants the settlement talks on Cyprus, which have been rumbling along since the autumn of 2008, to yield a breakthrough by the end of the year or be called off. An end to the negotiations would almost certainly mean the de facto suspension of Turkey's membership talks. “It needs to be said that everybody understands that there is this elephant in the room,” Füle told European Voice. “Solving the Cyprus problem would be a tremendous boost to [Turkey's] accession.”

Progress in Turkey's membership talks has been painfully slow, with just one policy chapter opened during each of the terms of Sweden and Spain as holder of the rotating presidency of the Council of Ministers. The talks could now grind to a halt.

David Cameron, the UK's prime minister, this week (27 July) accused the Turkey-sceptics in the EU of being driven by protectionism and prejudice.
“I cannot say that we in the Commission are happy about opening one chapter per presidency,” Füle said. “At the same time, the key is in the hands of the Turks.” The pace of the talks, he said, is “a reflection of the reform process in the country”.

This is only partially true. Turkey's parliament, dominated by the mildly Islamist Justice and Development (AK) Party of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, passed one of the most far-reaching reforms of the constitution before leaving for its summer break; the constitutional amendments will be put to a popular referendum on 12 September, 30 years to the day since the military coup in whose aftermath the constitution was drafted. It is the Cyprus problem and the cover it provides to opponents of Turkish accession, including Austria, France and Germany, that have limited to just three the number of chapters effectively available to be negotiated.


http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/imported/fule-plays-down-the-magic-of-eu-membership/68673.aspx


i think it pretty much explains why turkey is in a hurry...for solution...

this deal as it stands is between the EU and turkey, due to the fact turkey never really understood every club has rules to be followed...

and now told quite bluntly...lets see if they are listening...

i reckon turkey will wait till the last minute and then make an offering...as a negotiator i would do the same...

OR

turkey snubbs the EU and forms a union with her newly found buddies...highly unlikely scenario coz if i was turkey, not quite ready yet in taking such a giant leap, as the west still brings home the bacon, i would be pushing for not only looking at the cake but eating the whole lot...keeping options is the name of the game...


then again they might just offer a reduction of forces...this could be seen as a compromised by the poodles... :lol: ...all i know is they will offer the absolute minimum and they will harp how wonderfully are helping the peace process via the sacrifices they are making... :lol:
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Postby Me Ed » Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:32 pm

I think a settlement can be reached by the end of the year if Turkey outlines its exit strategy from Cyprus by say... next Tuesday.
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Re: Fule plays down the magic of EU membership

Postby insan » Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:46 pm

boomerang wrote:
Fule plays down the magic of EU membership
By Toby Vogel
29.07.2010 / 05:40 CET

Stefan Fule, the European commissioner for enlargement, says that progress on joining the EU is in the hands of the applicant countries themselves.
This autumn, several looming deadlines could intensify the difficulties facing Štefan Füle, the European commissioner for enlargement and the neighbourhood policy. They are neatly grouped around the second week of November, when Füle is to present the Commission's progress reports on the Union's would-be members, from Croatia in the north-west Balkans to Turkey down to the south and east. Iceland, whose membership talks were launched on Tuesday (27 July), is one of the few bright spots in that picture – for now.

Cyprus problem

The United Nations wants the settlement talks on Cyprus, which have been rumbling along since the autumn of 2008, to yield a breakthrough by the end of the year or be called off. An end to the negotiations would almost certainly mean the de facto suspension of Turkey's membership talks. “It needs to be said that everybody understands that there is this elephant in the room,” Füle told European Voice. “Solving the Cyprus problem would be a tremendous boost to [Turkey's] accession.”

Progress in Turkey's membership talks has been painfully slow, with just one policy chapter opened during each of the terms of Sweden and Spain as holder of the rotating presidency of the Council of Ministers. The talks could now grind to a halt.

David Cameron, the UK's prime minister, this week (27 July) accused the Turkey-sceptics in the EU of being driven by protectionism and prejudice.
“I cannot say that we in the Commission are happy about opening one chapter per presidency,” Füle said. “At the same time, the key is in the hands of the Turks.” The pace of the talks, he said, is “a reflection of the reform process in the country”.

This is only partially true. Turkey's parliament, dominated by the mildly Islamist Justice and Development (AK) Party of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, passed one of the most far-reaching reforms of the constitution before leaving for its summer break; the constitutional amendments will be put to a popular referendum on 12 September, 30 years to the day since the military coup in whose aftermath the constitution was drafted. It is the Cyprus problem and the cover it provides to opponents of Turkish accession, including Austria, France and Germany, that have limited to just three the number of chapters effectively available to be negotiated.


http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/imported/fule-plays-down-the-magic-of-eu-membership/68673.aspx


i think it pretty much explains why turkey is in a hurry...for solution...

this deal as it stands is between the EU and turkey, due to the fact turkey never really understood every club has rules to be followed...

and now told quite bluntly...lets see if they are listening...

i reckon turkey will wait till the last minute and then make an offering...as a negotiator i would do the same...

OR

turkey snubbs the EU and forms a union with her newly found buddies...highly unlikely scenario coz if i was turkey, not quite ready yet in taking such a giant leap, as the west still brings home the bacon, i would be pushing for not only looking at the cake but eating the whole lot...keeping options is the name of the game...


then again they might just offer a reduction of forces...this could be seen as a compromised by the poodles... :lol: ...all i know is they will offer the absolute minimum and they will harp how wonderfully are helping the peace process via the sacrifices they are making... :lol:




... it seems like he is trying to balance his so-called foul against GC administration... :wink:

Stefan Fule, Commissioner for Enlargement and European Neighbourhood Policy has recently made repeated references of the necessity to “lift the isolation of Turkish Cypriots.” Considering the high level negotiations underway for Cyprus’ reunification, the question of “Turkish Cypriot isolation”, must be clarified.


http://www.neurope.eu/articles/The-trut ... /99788.php

3 months ago "foe" for Hellenic people, now sounds "friendly" ? what about after another 3 months? :wink:
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Postby boomerang » Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:58 pm

why do you always come up with wild accusations...whats wrong with you....where in my post did i not only not made any refrence to foe/friend but even hinted?...

man you and your bleeding deflections...get a grip, read the article make abdolutely sure you digested it then try and come out with something semi intelligent rather that taking the lazy aproach...

the least i expected out of you was a counter argument along the lines of this is also a warning for the roc...north will be lost for ever...so the roc must really think hard if its worth ending it or persuing with more down the track for more hopes....i believe the path will be persuing unification down the path, coz today YOK...


look at it like this....we are both insan but i am a later version... :lol:
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Re: Fule plays down the magic of EU membership

Postby runaway » Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:59 pm

boomerang wrote:
as the west still brings home the bacon:


Wrong! We don't eat bacon so we won't buy EU lies. One thing I admire about Erdoğan government is that they took the EU out of public's agenda. south cyprus can't blackmail Türkiye using EU. We won't let a single south cypriot bird fly over our airspace, let alone an aircraft. If you want to fly to mama Russia, try Syria-Iraq-Iran-Armenia-Georgia airspace. :wink:
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Re: Fule plays down the magic of EU membership

Postby boomerang » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:00 pm

runaway wrote:
boomerang wrote:
as the west still brings home the bacon:


Wrong! We don't eat bacon so we won't buy EU lies. One thing I admire about Erdoğan government is that they took the EU out of public's agenda. south cyprus can't blackmail Türkiye using EU. We won't let a single south cypriot bird fly over our airspace, let alone an aircraft. If you want to fly to mama Russia, try Syria-Iraq-Iran-Armenia-Georgia airspace. :wink:


yeah ok...now run along... :lol:
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Re: Fule plays down the magic of EU membership

Postby Malapapa » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:12 pm

runaway wrote:
boomerang wrote:
as the west still brings home the bacon:


Wrong! We don't eat bacon so we won't buy EU lies.


Yes, but bacon tastes good, runaway. You're really missing out. You've already taken up a rum script, you may as well just go the 'whole hog' now.
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Postby insan » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:20 pm

boomerang wrote:why do you always come up with wild accusations...whats wrong with you....where in my post did i not only not made any refrence to foe/friend but even hinted?...

man you and your bleeding deflections...get a grip, read the article make abdolutely sure you digested it then try and come out with something semi intelligent rather that taking the lazy aproach...

the least i expected out of you was a counter argument along the lines of this is also a warning for the roc...north will be lost for ever...so the roc must really think hard if its worth ending it or persuing with more down the track for more hopes....i believe the path will be persuing unification down the path, coz today YOK...


look at it like this....we are both insan but i am a later version... :lol:


You based your "arguements" on the latest statements of Jule; who acts and speaks according to political circumstances he has been in and consider his statements as the final "judgement" regarding the solution of Cyprob and Turkey's EU accession... and you think you have any arguements to be countered by me... :lol:

As for name calling.. it's an endless idiotic game that i don't prefer to play... please play it alone... :wink:
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Postby boomerang » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:29 pm

insan wrote:
boomerang wrote:why do you always come up with wild accusations...whats wrong with you....where in my post did i not only not made any refrence to foe/friend but even hinted?...

man you and your bleeding deflections...get a grip, read the article make abdolutely sure you digested it then try and come out with something semi intelligent rather that taking the lazy aproach...

the least i expected out of you was a counter argument along the lines of this is also a warning for the roc...north will be lost for ever...so the roc must really think hard if its worth ending it or persuing with more down the track for more hopes....i believe the path will be persuing unification down the path, coz today YOK...


look at it like this....we are both insan but i am a later version... :lol:


You based your "arguements" on the latest statements of Jule; who acts and speaks according to political circumstances he has been in and consider his statements as the final "judgement" regarding the solution of Cyprob and Turkey's EU accession... and you think you have any arguements to be countered by me... :lol:

As for name calling.. it's an endless idiotic game that i don't prefer to play... please play it alone... :wink:


actually i never put an argument, just an opinion based on what was printed...an assesment...unlike you that came out with more wild accussations implying more than what the article was quoting...especially Fules reply to cameron the moron...undeniable fact in this case...

as for name calling are you implying i am not insan?... :lol: ..now who is being rude, huh?... :lol:
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Re: Fule plays down the magic of EU membership

Postby boomerang » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:42 pm

insan wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Fule plays down the magic of EU membership
By Toby Vogel
29.07.2010 / 05:40 CET

Stefan Fule, the European commissioner for enlargement, says that progress on joining the EU is in the hands of the applicant countries themselves.
This autumn, several looming deadlines could intensify the difficulties facing Štefan Füle, the European commissioner for enlargement and the neighbourhood policy. They are neatly grouped around the second week of November, when Füle is to present the Commission's progress reports on the Union's would-be members, from Croatia in the north-west Balkans to Turkey down to the south and east. Iceland, whose membership talks were launched on Tuesday (27 July), is one of the few bright spots in that picture – for now.

Cyprus problem

The United Nations wants the settlement talks on Cyprus, which have been rumbling along since the autumn of 2008, to yield a breakthrough by the end of the year or be called off. An end to the negotiations would almost certainly mean the de facto suspension of Turkey's membership talks. “It needs to be said that everybody understands that there is this elephant in the room,” Füle told European Voice. “Solving the Cyprus problem would be a tremendous boost to [Turkey's] accession.”

Progress in Turkey's membership talks has been painfully slow, with just one policy chapter opened during each of the terms of Sweden and Spain as holder of the rotating presidency of the Council of Ministers. The talks could now grind to a halt.

David Cameron, the UK's prime minister, this week (27 July) accused the Turkey-sceptics in the EU of being driven by protectionism and prejudice.
“I cannot say that we in the Commission are happy about opening one chapter per presidency,” Füle said. “At the same time, the key is in the hands of the Turks.” The pace of the talks, he said, is “a reflection of the reform process in the country”.

This is only partially true. Turkey's parliament, dominated by the mildly Islamist Justice and Development (AK) Party of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, passed one of the most far-reaching reforms of the constitution before leaving for its summer break; the constitutional amendments will be put to a popular referendum on 12 September, 30 years to the day since the military coup in whose aftermath the constitution was drafted. It is the Cyprus problem and the cover it provides to opponents of Turkish accession, including Austria, France and Germany, that have limited to just three the number of chapters effectively available to be negotiated.


http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/imported/fule-plays-down-the-magic-of-eu-membership/68673.aspx


i think it pretty much explains why turkey is in a hurry...for solution...

this deal as it stands is between the EU and turkey, due to the fact turkey never really understood every club has rules to be followed...

and now told quite bluntly...lets see if they are listening...

i reckon turkey will wait till the last minute and then make an offering...as a negotiator i would do the same...

OR

turkey snubbs the EU and forms a union with her newly found buddies...highly unlikely scenario coz if i was turkey, not quite ready yet in taking such a giant leap, as the west still brings home the bacon, i would be pushing for not only looking at the cake but eating the whole lot...keeping options is the name of the game...


then again they might just offer a reduction of forces...this could be seen as a compromised by the poodles... :lol: ...all i know is they will offer the absolute minimum and they will harp how wonderfully are helping the peace process via the sacrifices they are making... :lol:




... it seems like he is trying to balance his so-called foul against GC administration... :wink:

Stefan Fule, Commissioner for Enlargement and European Neighbourhood Policy has recently made repeated references of the necessity to “lift the isolation of Turkish Cypriots.” Considering the high level negotiations underway for Cyprus’ reunification, the question of “Turkish Cypriot isolation”, must be clarified.


http://www.neurope.eu/articles/The-trut ... /99788.php

3 months ago "foe" for Hellenic people, now sounds "friendly" ? what about after another 3 months? :wink:


and just to show you how pathetic your reply was...actually what you are saying who cares if turkey is kicked out of the EU, as long as fule supports us, the TCS in having direct trade...NICE...

now i am eagerlry awaiting your squirm of a reply...
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