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[Bananiot]

Here is more evidence of level-headed thinking by the Cyprus Mail:

"..... Should not someone have stood up and said something along the following lines: We are all happy and proud of what Anorthosis achieved but we should not forget that this was just a football match. And while winning a football match can give boundless joy to supporters it has no bearing on real life. Only a misguided fool would conclude that Anorthosis’ football victory was proof that we could emerge victorious from our ongoing confrontation with Turkey, as long as we stayed united. A football match is played on a level field, the sides have the same number of players, there is a referee enforcing the rules, and it is over after 90 minutes. In these 90 minutes, the most unfancied outsiders can defeat top sides, if they are tactically astute, strong and have a bit of luck. The capacity to spring surprises is why football is such a popular game.

Unfortunately real life is not like this – confrontations between countries do not take place on a level playing field, with opponents restricted to the same numbers, subject to the same rules; and they are not over after 90 minutes either. If the editorial-writers had a sense of measure they would have had the decency to mention this bitter truth, which in no way diminishes the magnitude of Anorthosis’ feat. It would have put things in perspective, which seems always to be lacking from public debate".

[Kifeas]

I find it more and more pathetic to continue reading and posting in this forum (any forum,) due to the fact that every idler comes here and “throws out” his / her sentimental drool, without making sense even to his /her own self of what has written up. Unfortunately I cannot resist!

Here is one example.

Here is more evidence of level-headed thinking by the Cyprus Mail:

"..... Should not someone have stood up and said something along the following lines: We are all happy and proud of what Anorthosis achieved but we should not forget that this was just a football match. And while winning a football match can give boundless joy to supporters it has no bearing on real life. Only a misguided fool would conclude that Anorthosis’ football victory was proof that we could emerge victorious from our ongoing confrontation with Turkey, as long as we stayed united. A football match is played on a level field, the sides have the same number of players, there is a referee enforcing the rules, and it is over after 90 minutes. In these 90 minutes, the most unfancied outsiders can defeat top sides, if they are tactically astute, strong and have a bit of luck. The capacity to spring surprises is why football is such a popular game.

Unfortunately real life is not like this – confrontations between countries do not take place on a level playing field, with opponents restricted to the same numbers, subject to the same rules; and they are not over after 90 minutes either. If the editorial-writers had a sense of measure they would have had the decency to mention this bitter truth, which in no way diminishes the magnitude of Anorthosis’ feat. It would have put things in perspective, which seems always to be lacking from public debate".

Hey Greek Cypriots! Do you read what Bananiot and Cyprus mail say? You have no chance emerging “victorious” from an “on going” “confrontation” with Turkey, even if you stay united!

Consequently, I add, you are hopeless! Give up! Accept defeat! Surrender! Capitulate! Sell out! Just follow the “level-headed” example of all the Bananiots and all the Cyprus Mails!

[Othellos]

Bananiot,
You and others can read more about the "soccer war" here:

http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/sierra/soccer1969.htm

The name sounds funny, but unfortunately its results were not.

Gabaston,
Ii too enjoy watching and sometimes playing football. But I also agree with you that the amount of money spent on it is sometimes extreme (always talking about Cyprus).

efe,
Who was this random guy who was trying to pump the crowd and hopw did he gain access to the stadium's loudspeakers?

If you are talking about the www.anorthosis.net site, I do not think that this is a truly "official" web site. It certainly doesn't look like one for is is not professionally made. Anorthosis is a historic club that was founded by members of the Greek community in Cyprus (GCs) back in 1911 and well before indepenence. i still cannot see what is the big deal with the flags here. As far as I am concerned, it is the use of a flag that can be a problem (like raising it in someone else's occupied house for example)and not the flag itself.

Kifeas,
I suspect that what Bananiot is trying to say is that at the end of the day, the Anorthosis - Trabzonspor "confrontation" was just a football game.

O.

[demetriou_74]

was more than a football match. very political

[erolz]

Hey Greek Cypriots! Do you read what Bananiot and Cyprus mail say? You have no chance emerging “victorious” from an “on going” “confrontation” with Turkey, even if you stay united!

With respect Kifeas I do not see that that is what the article is saying. It is saying that winning this football match is not proof that you can win the confrontation with Turkey. It does not say you can not win this confrontation, just that the foootball victory is not proof that you can. At least thats how I see it.

[-mikkie2-]

Cyprus is a small nation therefore success on the football field against a team that was supposedly superior is a big thing. If Anorthosis gain the scalp of Rangers I would imagine you will see similar scenes. Now, is this being nationalistic? You go to a high profile game in Scotland, eg Celtic vs Rangers, and you see the kind of things that go on there. A very similar atmosphere and very 'nationalistic', but at the end of the day it is just a game of football.

If the leg in Cyprus was not as nationalistic as it came across what makes people think that in Turkey it would have been otherwise? If anything the game in Turkey was a demostrtation of extreme nationalism at its best!

[Bananiot]

Football goers are not the most rational people. Lets say they are the pop lovers in music. My misery is that we have only pop lovers in Cyprus. This island is turning into a cultural desert and the football chants that are heard - no matter who the opponent is, after all, confrontation is the most important thing for the majority of them and if they cannot have Turks as opponents anyone else who is slightly different will do - remind one of the infamous Roman Arenas.

Anorthosis's success has added to the frustration felt by level-headed people because even the government and the government sponsored media have jumped onto the bandwagon of football and feed us on a daily basis with hours of personality killers that are the false messages send by sick people who litteraly exploit sporting ideals for barbaric purposes.

[Main_Source]

you just need sex.

[Bananiot]

Opera is the bedroom of poor people ...

[cypezokyli]

for the game i would say

it was good that nobody was hurt
it was good that most gc suported anorthosis. some years ago the stupitidy between right and left teams was much bigger
it was bad that this game took such a nationalistic character. both here and there
but as i always say : " they are just football funs"
it was stupid the way this victory was presented by some tv and radio stations

it was good that anorthosis won
when tha game started i thought ..who cares its just a game... the last 15 minutes i almost died