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[efe]

some GCS on this forum are starting to piss me off.

What the turkish policemen did to anorthosis is just an answer to what GC police did to turkish players.

trabzon players and the journalists were treated like sht in larnaka. i have seen video shootages of it. fatih tekke (or was it gokdeniz) got so pissed he threw his shoes toward the police officer.

turks werent let out of their hotels either. GCs on the other hand went and visited SUMELA church in trabzon.

turks were also searched all over again before they started the game in the stadium.

at least we did not search GC players in the stadium.

do not be too afraid of us. as you can see you won the game and you got back home safely.

ofcourse your stupid TV stations never show how turks were treated in cyprus.

[Othellos]

some GCS on this forum are starting to piss me off.

What the turkish policemen did to anorthosis is just an answer to what GC police did to turkish players.

Hello efe

Let me start by asking you (or anyone else for that matter) in what way is the removal of a traveller's shoes and socks constitutes a matter of security? Is this some kind of a necessary procedure in "high risk" situations and if yes, why?

trabzon players and the journalists were treated like sht in larnaka. i have seen video shootages of it. fatih tekke (or was it gokdeniz) got so pissed he threw his shoes toward the police officer.

turks werent let out of their hotels either. GCs on the other hand went and visited SUMELA church in trabzon.

I do not think that Trabzonspor was treated "like sh*t". No angry Cypriot "soccer fans" gathered outside their hotel making throat cutting gestures towards them. No one tried to wake them up at midnight, no one tried to physically attack them and of course no one stoned their bus upon their departure. The only reason I am mentioning these is because Anorthosis and its few supporters had to put up with such stupid behaviour exhibited by some organised idiots, while in Turkey. To their credit, your police did their job and everyone in the GC group acknowledged this.

You are correct when saying that Trabzonspor weren't let to tour any places while in Cyprus and this was reported in our local papers. The Turkish team did complain about this but our police was greatly concerned about their security. After all this was the first time a football team from Turkey played in Cyprus (even though some Turkish handball teams have also played here in the past years).

turks were also searched all over again before they started the game in the stadium.

at least we did not search GC players in the stadium.

True. For some reason the police thought it was necessary to search the players before the game. What you seem to be unaware of however is that the GC players were also searched.

do not be too afraid of us. as you can see you won the game and you got back home safely.

Again, true. On the other hand, the bus with Cypriot the players was attacked on their way to the airport but again the Turkish police did what they were expected to do. Some said that the Turkish police even had to fire gun shots to keep away from the bus an angry Turkish mob.

Let us all hope that the day when visits by sports teams and athletes from Cyprus and Turkey in each other's country will be "normal news", is not that far away.

O.

[erolz]

Let me start by asking you (or anyone else for that matter) in what way is the removal of a traveller's shoes and socks constitutes a matter of security? Is this some kind of a necessary procedure in "high risk" situations and if yes, why?

I would just mention as Bananiot has that being asked to remove ones shoes at airport security is not that unusal in these 'post 9/11' days. I have been asked to do so myself both in the UK and the USA in the last year or so. I have never been asked to remove my socks however. Also I accept this is a small point, but one I felt worth making. If I had not been travelling internationaly for last 2-3 years it would seem to me that 'removing shoes' was an very unusal security procedure and these days in my expereince it is increasingly not so. I am not trying to make any justifications for anything here, just offer this perspective on the sole issue of how usual / unususal it is to be asked to remove ones shoes.

[magikthrill]

I would just mention as Bananiot has that being asked to remove ones shoes at airport security is not that unusal in these 'post 9/11' days. I have been asked to do so myself both in the UK and the USA in the last year or so. I have never been asked to remove my socks however. Also I accept this is a small point, but one I felt worth making. If I had not been travelling internationaly for last 2-3 years it would seem to me that 'removing shoes' was an very unusal security procedure and these days in my expereince it is increasingly not so. I am not trying to make any justifications for anything here, just offer this perspective on the sole issue of how usual / unususal it is to be asked to remove ones shoes.

i think the bigger quesiton is why the heck was his socks removed?!

[brother]

i think the bigger quesiton is why the heck was his socks removed?!

They have a historical fear of the dreaded "Greek stinking foot" which could be used for making weapons of mass destruction hence the check was required for the safety of all Turkish citizens.

[magikthrill]

i think the bigger quesiton is why the heck was his socks removed?!

They have a historical fear of the dreaded "Greek stinking foot" which could be used for making weapons of mass destruction hence the check was required for the safety of all Turkish citizens.

quite funny indeed only your argument makes no sense. if this was indeed the case then they would have requested he NOT remove his socks

[petethegreek]

BREAKING NEWS


Turkisk secret service, in fear of shoe bomb attacks, converged on Cypriot football team Anorthosis as they made their way through airport security.

The group were asked to remove their shoes as a precaution. A Euro MP travaling with the party was asked to take his socks off for a detailed examination.

Cheif of police, Mehmet Ali said, "All past a 'routine' inspection and were free to continue with their journey." When pressed to comment about the treatment of the Euro MP, Ali commented, "We have information that this person was in Turkey for propaganda purposes. We became suspisious of this person when a fowl odour began eminating from his feet. When he was asked to remove his socks we saw a large bunnion on his left foot. As he had failed to declare this at customs he was kept behind for more detailed body search."

An irate Greek jounalist who witnessed the incident said, "Shoe bombs? Are they mad? Just rememeber we are Greek Orthadox not wannabe Muslems. We don't do shoe bombs. We just beat Turkish football teams!"

[Bananiot]

Last month I travelled to Ireland and like all passengers, on arrival at Dublin Airport, I was asked to remove my shoes. Of course, these seem to be standard proceedures in this age we live in of terrorist attacks etc. I think, it is how these new measures are implemented that is important. When asked politely and in a sensible manner passengers should have no problem complying. But, there is also the bias factor which of course in our case is very strong, unfortunately. No doubt, Cypriot voices against any over zealous turkish actions were aiming at preparing the general public for a possible defeat by the Turkish team.

The GC community, and this is what worries me, has placed a lot of emphasis on the result. Sporting successes have never helped a country solve its problems. Brazil, for example, has been at the helm of world football for decades, yet people are dying in this country from hunger. Who remembers the GDR now? This country was a giant in world athletics. Today it does not even exist!

Greek Cypriots, as someone correctly spotted, have taken to the streets three times over the last ten years. When Greece won the Euro Cup, when Greece won the Eurovision Song Contest and when Anorthosis knocked out the Turkish team. On all occasions many people considered the successes a triumph of the race. We seem to have a huge vacuum inside us which we fill quite readily with silly things. It is only natural to be pleased by any success of your country but to take to the roads and squares is another thing. It is so 3rd world and shows a luck of culture and prospective.

Also, all the parties tried to cash in on the success of Anorthosis, which is so miserable. MP's are pushing a bill now for the government to support financially any teams that are succesful. Of course, the more natural thing to do was to give our sporting people the means to become succesful and not wait in vein for them to become succesful. But, this would mean a proper sport policy, but such things are forbitten in a ... semi occupied country.

[Othellos]

Okay ...I did some search online and it seems that following 9/11 there has been at least one case where a plane passenger in the US had an explosive device hidden in his shoes. If this is why people are asked to take off their shoes in airports, it makes more sense to do this before they board the plane and not after they land. Therefore and unless I am missing something, it seems that there was no need to ask the football players of either team to have their shoes removed, either in Cyprus or in Turkey. Of course, a shoe can always be used to beat the hell out of someone. Even worse, it can be used as a stinking weapon like brother suggests

O.

[gabaston]

Othelos true

but they can not guarantee local airport safety in another land.

i dont condone shoe searches at all. most people in london hide all sorts of tings in their shoes.

was it just the football team who were asked to remove shoes?

i was in istanbul last year and everyone entering the airport was subject to very strict searches, even casual turkish nationals collecting or seeing off friends.