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[apc2010]

bollocks , lets be serious ..why does Cyprus need weapons in this day and age ............

It must be a trick question! How about you tell us why she doesn't?

in theory Egpyt could bomb here , then you have bio logical war fare...........

Right...

Cyprus is a important listening post , i agree,,

Are you agreeing with yourself? Anyway, since when is Cyprus a better listening post of the ME than Israel?

but as 1 soldier said to me if Cyprus sinks it will not move "the tits of page 3" (the sun) ....

Here’s another one you can add to your fine collection of cheap meaningless sophistry…

"If the UK sinks it will not move an Eskimo!"

everyone here enjoys it, but lets not get carried away..........

About what exactly?

because if any nato member inc turkey wanted to "invade" it is irrevalent what is here , in the worlds eyes it is a fast losting holiday place, big brother would be front page , cyprus would be after jordans new shoes...............

[Bananiot]

In international relations there are no friends and enemies. Only cretins use these terms at present. It is all about interests and one wonders people do not realise this. I am not referring to oracle or the rest of the hapless forumers of her calibre but our politicians who feed these rubbish to the people about countries which hate (USA, Britain) Cyprus and countries which love (Russia, China) Cyprus.

By the way, I think GR is constantly committing crimes against our intelligence, but we forgive him.

[humanist]

foe

[Nikitas]

Look at what they rushed to include in the Annan plan. Safeguarding their SBA areas, extending their territorial waters, giving them an Exclusive Economic Zone and continental shelf rights. Are those the actions of friends?

The use of the Bases is supposedly strategic, not economic, so why claim continental shelf etc, and at whose expense were these claims?

Cameron reeled off the demographics that make Turkey a USEFUL market. It is not that the British suddenly got friendly with the Turks. It is simply that they see USE, and for that use they will sell us down the river. Perhaps they have already.

Correspondingly, when Greece was panning the purchase of 100 fighter jets and 1000 tanks, scores of British salesmen arrived in Athens, with a minister and a government delegation, and prixed us with reminders of the "historic ties" between the two nations. All that was forgotten as soon as the Americans and the Germans got the contracts.

*prixed, from the verb prizo, to cause to swell, usually in reference to testicles

[boomerang]

as it stands form today....foe...approach with extreme caution...

Sacrificing a friend for an enemy
By - The Washington Times
10:25 a.m., Friday, July 30, 2010

Turkey was no doubt delighted when British Prime Minister David Cameron sacrificedthe Jewish state upon the altar of political expediency while having the audacity to declare himself to be a friend of Israel ("With friends like these ..." Opinion, June 2).

The condescending, arrogant attitude ofMr. Cameron knew no bounds as he made demands upon Israel and side-stepped anything that may have caused offense to Turkey. Conspicuous by its absence was any reference to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's involvement with the Turkish IHH terrorist group behind the Gaza flotilla incident, or any mention of the thousands of innocent Kurds killed by Turkish forces. To dare raise the subject of the Armenian genocide would have been anathema for Mr. Cameron's self-interest as he sought a political scapegoat in Israel.

As to Gaza being "prison," Mr. Cameron may wish to cast his eyes toward the territory's luxury malls, the overflowing markets andthe Mercedes cars as he absolves Gaza's populace of any responsibility for voting into power a terrorist entity sworn to destroy its Jewish neighbor. He may also wish to recall that Israel ceded Gaza for peace but received a"hell on earth" with thousands of missiles being fired at Israeli civilians from its former territory.

Any untoward situation in Gaza is due to security measures afforded to counter the pursuit of Palestinian aggression. Mr. Erdogan, himself a supporter of Hamas, was clearly appreciative of Mr. Cameron's echo of Arab propaganda as Mr. Cameron expediently side-stepped another issue: Gilad Shalit, the Israeli soldier held in Gaza for more than four years without even a visit from the Red Cross.

With "friends" like Mr. Cameron, Israel certainly doesn't need enemies.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/30/sacrificing-a-friend-for-an-enemy/

nikitas you are correct, the british could be smelling money, but to dump on israel is unforgiveable in some circles...and very undiplomatic...but i reckon certain people are gonna chew off obamas ear...

[Bananiot]

So, what is your conclusion Nikitas?

[miltiades]

Britain just like any other world power naturally puts its own interests above all. Nothing wrong in that , its time we too put our own interests above all , tough if the GRs of this island don't like it , they are after all malakes to say the least !!
Supporting Cuba , Afghanistan Iraq and Palestine isn't actually conducive to our interests now is it !

[Schnauzer]

Supporting Cuba , Afghanistan Iraq and Palestine isn't actually conducive to our interests now is it !

It absolutely IS surely ?, the fact that there are people who recognise the struggle for freedom against the oppression of others (in whatever form it takes) is a quality to be admired, unless of course one wishes to join the ranks of the 'Pusillanimous Sycophants' who deem themselves to be on the winning side merely because their political mentors tell them so.

Better a man should stand by his beliefs, even at the cost of his life, than ally himself to the whims of oppressive (powerful) cowards. (IMHO)

[miltiades]

Supporting Cuba , Afghanistan Iraq and Palestine isn't actually conducive to our interests now is it !

It absolutely IS surely ?, the fact that there are people who recognise the struggle for freedom against the oppression of others (in whatever form it takes) is a quality to be admired, unless of course one wishes to join the ranks of the 'Pusillanimous Sycophants' who deem themselves to be on the winning side merely because their political mentors tell them so.

Better a man should stand by his beliefs, even at the cost of his life, than ally himself to the whims of oppressive (powerful) cowards. (IMHO)

You sound very much like another idiot who posted in exactly the same idiotic fashion that you do. You see plonker I have zero tolerance for fools and complete plonkers like . Shove off plonker !

[Nikitas]

"So, what is your conclusion Nikitas?"

Bananiot asks.

My conclusion is to grow up, fast, and adopt the same tactics. National self interest comes first. The rest follows from there. And as is well known, success comes from programmed progress towards defined goals. In our case the goals not only are not defined, they are not even agreed by the various political parties and factions.

As to the specific problem of Britain in Cyprus, I have said many times, to the point I sound obsessive: any territorial arrangement must specify that the British bases burden GC territory and that if and when the British leave the territory reverts to the GC component state.

Believe it! If the British leave and the territorial aspect of their bases is not settled beforehand we are going to relive 1963 and 1974 combined.

In a way the avoidance of the issue by GC politicians and the Cypriot public as a whole shows how naive and politicallly immature we are. Only fools would accept a geopolitical bomb like this, assuming they even realise the issue is there.