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Re: I don't like the situation either but.....

Postby Oracle » Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:23 am

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cymart wrote:by refusing to go there we are playing into the hands of the people who want to keep the island divided,isolating ourselves from the T.C's and effectively writing off the north and accepting that it is lost for good!By going there we maintain our ties,show that we have not forgotten that we can all share Cyprus and live in it peacefully,to name just a few reasons...
It is also well-known that photographing anywhere considered a military zone in the north usually means trouble so this has to be borne in mind(not easy for me because Varosha comes into that category!)
Technically there are enough G.C's in the south to make us a majority there-think what would happen if even half of them simultaneously crossed over to the north(with good intentions of course!)and told the T.C's openly that we also want a solution NOW!


That would be a spectacle to see.


People like you will NOT be around to see a liberated Cyprus as you are the obstacle!
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Re: A good question.....

Postby vaughanwilliams » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:35 am

kurupetos wrote:
cymart wrote:How many Greek-Cypriots have visited the north since 1974 and how many of them have been arrested?


More than a hundred.


Most of the people arrested have been charged with firearms offences or tresspassing on/photographing restricted areas. This last is also common in other countries close to (your) home.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1697862.stm
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Absolutely....

Postby cymart » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:44 am

There are many countries where you can be arrested because the police just want money as a bribe to supplement their meagre official salaries-Russia is probably the largest one I know and have had experience of....
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Re: I don't like the situation either but.....

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:22 am

Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
cymart wrote:by refusing to go there we are playing into the hands of the people who want to keep the island divided,isolating ourselves from the T.C's and effectively writing off the north and accepting that it is lost for good!By going there we maintain our ties,show that we have not forgotten that we can all share Cyprus and live in it peacefully,to name just a few reasons...
It is also well-known that photographing anywhere considered a military zone in the north usually means trouble so this has to be borne in mind(not easy for me because Varosha comes into that category!)
Technically there are enough G.C's in the south to make us a majority there-think what would happen if even half of them simultaneously crossed over to the north(with good intentions of course!)and told the T.C's openly that we also want a solution NOW!


That would be a spectacle to see.


People like you will NOT be around to see a liberated Cyprus as you are the obstacle!


It is people like you spreading hatred who are the obstacles Oracle. With all this hatred flying left right and centre how do you expect anyone to come to a conclusive peace agreement when you scare people off?

I do not ask anyone to forget all the evil that has happened, but the constant remindes dont help either.
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The viscious circle...

Postby cymart » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:39 am

Bad thoughts lead to bad deeds which lead to other bad thoughts and so on......the karmic lesson is that we cannot change the past,only let go of it,forgive and move on.....
This is a universal spiritual law which applies to all things-when we forget it we become slaves to our own bad karmic memories and cannot go forward......
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Re: I don't like the situation either but.....

Postby Oracle » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:59 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
cymart wrote:by refusing to go there we are playing into the hands of the people who want to keep the island divided,isolating ourselves from the T.C's and effectively writing off the north and accepting that it is lost for good!By going there we maintain our ties,show that we have not forgotten that we can all share Cyprus and live in it peacefully,to name just a few reasons...
It is also well-known that photographing anywhere considered a military zone in the north usually means trouble so this has to be borne in mind(not easy for me because Varosha comes into that category!)
Technically there are enough G.C's in the south to make us a majority there-think what would happen if even half of them simultaneously crossed over to the north(with good intentions of course!)and told the T.C's openly that we also want a solution NOW!


That would be a spectacle to see.


People like you will NOT be around to see a liberated Cyprus as you are the obstacle!


It is people like you spreading hatred who are the obstacles Oracle. With all this hatred flying left right and centre how do you expect anyone to come to a conclusive peace agreement when you scare people off?

I do not ask anyone to forget all the evil that has happened, but the constant remindes dont help either.


This is not about the past! This is about what is happening NOW and how it can impact negatively in the future, for GCs and their homeland!

So, you would rather all GCs remained completely silent about what is happening to them so that the Turks are not "hated"?
That's just evil, Deniz!
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Re: I don't like the situation either but.....

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:37 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
cymart wrote:by refusing to go there we are playing into the hands of the people who want to keep the island divided,isolating ourselves from the T.C's and effectively writing off the north and accepting that it is lost for good!By going there we maintain our ties,show that we have not forgotten that we can all share Cyprus and live in it peacefully,to name just a few reasons...
It is also well-known that photographing anywhere considered a military zone in the north usually means trouble so this has to be borne in mind(not easy for me because Varosha comes into that category!)
Technically there are enough G.C's in the south to make us a majority there-think what would happen if even half of them simultaneously crossed over to the north(with good intentions of course!)and told the T.C's openly that we also want a solution NOW!


That would be a spectacle to see.


People like you will NOT be around to see a liberated Cyprus as you are the obstacle!


It is people like you spreading hatred who are the obstacles Oracle. With all this hatred flying left right and centre how do you expect anyone to come to a conclusive peace agreement when you scare people off?

I do not ask anyone to forget all the evil that has happened, but the constant remindes dont help either.


This is not about the past! This is about what is happening NOW and how it can impact negatively in the future, for GCs and their homeland!

So, you would rather all GCs remained completely silent about what is happening to them so that the Turks are not "hated"?
That's just evil, Deniz!


That is it Oracle. You only think of the GCs whereas I think of all Cypriots. That is the difference between me and you (apart from sex).
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Re: I don't like the situation either but.....

Postby AWE » Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:16 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
cymart wrote:by refusing to go there we are playing into the hands of the people who want to keep the island divided,isolating ourselves from the T.C's and effectively writing off the north and accepting that it is lost for good!By going there we maintain our ties,show that we have not forgotten that we can all share Cyprus and live in it peacefully,to name just a few reasons...
It is also well-known that photographing anywhere considered a military zone in the north usually means trouble so this has to be borne in mind(not easy for me because Varosha comes into that category!)
Technically there are enough G.C's in the south to make us a majority there-think what would happen if even half of them simultaneously crossed over to the north(with good intentions of course!)and told the T.C's openly that we also want a solution NOW!


That would be a spectacle to see.


People like you will NOT be around to see a liberated Cyprus as you are the obstacle!


It is people like you spreading hatred who are the obstacles Oracle. With all this hatred flying left right and centre how do you expect anyone to come to a conclusive peace agreement when you scare people off?

I do not ask anyone to forget all the evil that has happened, but the constant remindes dont help either.


This is not about the past! This is about what is happening NOW and how it can impact negatively in the future, for GCs and their homeland!

So, you would rather all GCs remained completely silent about what is happening to them so that the Turks are not "hated"?
That's just evil, Deniz!


That is it Oracle. You only think of the GCs whereas I think of all Cypriots. That is the difference between me and you (apart from sex).


What your getting some and O isn't?
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Postby bsharpish » Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:17 pm

Therefore......... If you want Greek you should go to Greece

So in a perfect world - no greeks, no turks just Cypriots unified and actually building a nation together.

As a relatively impartial observer I'd be happy with that, especially as it might end the constant ethnic, racist,hellenic,turkic bullshit that passes for politics here in cypruscyberland :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: I don't like the situation either but.....

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:20 pm

AWE wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
cymart wrote:by refusing to go there we are playing into the hands of the people who want to keep the island divided,isolating ourselves from the T.C's and effectively writing off the north and accepting that it is lost for good!By going there we maintain our ties,show that we have not forgotten that we can all share Cyprus and live in it peacefully,to name just a few reasons...
It is also well-known that photographing anywhere considered a military zone in the north usually means trouble so this has to be borne in mind(not easy for me because Varosha comes into that category!)
Technically there are enough G.C's in the south to make us a majority there-think what would happen if even half of them simultaneously crossed over to the north(with good intentions of course!)and told the T.C's openly that we also want a solution NOW!


That would be a spectacle to see.


People like you will NOT be around to see a liberated Cyprus as you are the obstacle!


It is people like you spreading hatred who are the obstacles Oracle. With all this hatred flying left right and centre how do you expect anyone to come to a conclusive peace agreement when you scare people off?

I do not ask anyone to forget all the evil that has happened, but the constant remindes dont help either.


This is not about the past! This is about what is happening NOW and how it can impact negatively in the future, for GCs and their homeland!

So, you would rather all GCs remained completely silent about what is happening to them so that the Turks are not "hated"?
That's just evil, Deniz!


That is it Oracle. You only think of the GCs whereas I think of all Cypriots. That is the difference between me and you (apart from sex).


What your getting some and O isn't?


I could not possibly answer that without causing more confusion.

Lets leave it at that, shall we? :wink:
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