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[humanist]

Insan am beginning to like your comments of late. They are a bit more balanced.

[CopperLine]

Sorry Humanist, my last comment was too facetious. Apologies

[insan]

Insan am beginning to like your comments of late. They are a bit more balanced.

I thought I've always been balanced... maybe you've just realized? Can you show me just one post of mine that was not balanced? Maybe you misunderstood me... if so, i will try to reexplain it to you...

[Viewpoint]

So does that mean that houses built on state land in the north for refugees is theirs?

[Nikitas]

"So does that mean that houses built on state land in the north for refugees is theirs?"

Presumably yes. Since they do not violate the property rights of any individual title to these houses will be validaed by a settlement. Even archbishop Chrysostomos said that housing for TCs in the north can be built on public land without violating property rights of displaced GCs.

[humanist]

Insan

I thought I've always been balanced... maybe you've just realized? Can you show me just one post of mine that was not balanced? Maybe you misunderstood me... if so, i will try to reexplain it to you...

Thank you .... I will try to read more carefully.

[Nikitas]

Deniz said:

"The attitude of some young GCs expressing the view 'look how the TCs live or used to live' has been displayed on this forum more than once."

I cannot speak about TC architecture in general, but in Lefkara I had a chance to take a good look at various houses. Most were large stone houses built around a central courtyard in typically Mediterranean architecture. The GC and TC quarters of Lefkara had pretty much the same style of building.

[Piratis]

Those refugees were not given title deeds to TC properties, but to refugee housing build on state land.

Refugees who temporarily live in TC properties (until they are allowed by the Turks to return to their own homes) do not have title deeds for them.

Expropriations of TC properties (just like GC properties or properties owned by anybody else in Cyprus) are done only by the state in order to build roads, schools, hospitals etc.

Everything is very clear.

Gasman, if your sources are crap, then you get crap. Those who publish in the link you gave are nothing more than a bunch of criminals who illegally "bought" Greek Cypriot properties in the occupied part of Cyprus. Did you really expect to get any valid information from them?

State land? Are you sure?

Cyprus refugees to get Title Deeds

The government is trying to secure Title Deeds for all refugees living in government-built estates, including those on Turkish Cypriot land, a top official said on Thursday.
By: George Psyllides
Published: February 20th, 2010


INTERIOR Minister Neoclis Sylikiotis told the Cyprus Mail that an effort is being made to issue Title Deeds to those refugees living on Turkish Cypriot land through agreed procedures with the legal owners.

After 1974, the Republic put all Turkish Cypriot properties under the guardianship of the Interior Minister, who prohibits their sale, exchange and transfer because of the state of emergency.

However, without following proper expropriation procedures, the Republic took large expanses of Turkish Cypriot-owned land for development projects and for refugee estates.

The minister said there have been Turkish Cypriots willing to come to an agreement where their land was used to house Greek Cypriot refugees.

http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers. ... /id=003976

There have been TCs willing to come to an agreement, what about the others that willing the restitution of their land?

The only way that a refugee can get a title deed to a TC property is if the TC willingly sells his property. No other way. The refugees that live in TC properties do not have title deeds for them, and the TCs can take those properties back once they return ours.

Beyond that, expropriations for state infrastructure happen in all countries.

The question is insan: why did you create this problem? Wasn't this ethnic cleansing and partition your own aim since the 50s? So why do you blame us for the results of your own crime?

Even today we are the ones who want to correct the wrongs that your crimes have created to Cyprus. What we want is for our refugees to return to their own homes and the TCs to come back to their own properties. Unfortunately you do not accept this.

Oh yes. We started everything in 1974 didnt we. Ofcourse nothing to do with the coup.

The gramaphone needs to be dusted me thinks.




or was is

How could it have anything to do with the coup when partition was the aim of TCs from the 50s? Isn't what we have today what TCs always wanted (apart from their "Turkish state" being unrecognized)? Didn't TCs always want to annihilate GCs from the north part of Cyprus, so they can move there and as a result have two separate and ethnically pure states?

How can you now complain about the results of your own aim? You started a conflict in 1958 and a war in 1974 in order to segregate and divide Cypriots along ethnic lines so you can implement your plan of partition, and now you complain about it?

[CopperLine]

How could it have anything to do with the coup when partition was the aim of TCs from the 50s?

Wrong. No, it was not the aim of the vast majority of TCs

Isn't what we have today what TCs always wanted (apart from their "Turkish state" being unrecognized)?

Wrong. No, it was not the aim of the vast majority of TCs

Didn't TCs always want to annihilate GCs from the north part of Cyprus, so they can move there and as a result have two separate and ethnically pure states?

Wrong. No.

How can you now complain about the results of your own aim? You started a conflict in 1958 and a war in 1974 in order to segregate and divide Cypriots along ethnic lines so you can implement your plan of partition, and now you complain about it?

Wrong. No, 80% of TCs were not even born in 1958 so how could they have plotted anything?

Mr. "Percentages" Piratis, is 100% wrong in all his assumptions. Again.

[B25]

How could it have anything to do with the coup when partition was the aim of TCs from the 50s?

Wrong. No, it was not the aim of the vast majority of TCs

Isn't what we have today what TCs always wanted (apart from their "Turkish state" being unrecognized)?

Wrong. No, it was not the aim of the vast majority of TCs

Didn't TCs always want to annihilate GCs from the north part of Cyprus, so they can move there and as a result have two separate and ethnically pure states?

Wrong. No.

How can you now complain about the results of your own aim? You started a conflict in 1958 and a war in 1974 in order to segregate and divide Cypriots along ethnic lines so you can implement your plan of partition, and now you complain about it?

Wrong. No, 80% of TCs were not even born in 1958 so how could they have plotted anything?

Mr. "Percentages" Piratis, is 100% wrong in all his assumptions. Again.

Copper, with all due respect, thats just your opinion.

Piratis has shown many time, with facts, that what he says is true.

I think you lost it on this occasion.