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[denizaksulu]

As far as I have investigated, double dipping means having accepted illegal deeds to GC property in the north or having otherwise dealt with Gc property for financial gain.

Merely occupying GC property does not count. Is this so? So people who are merely staying in a GC house allocated to them by the TRNC would not be disqualified from retaking their properties in the south?

' Double dipping ' in my book is claiming 'eshdeger' for the properties left in the south. Selling it on and then claiming your 'own' properties back in the south.

[denizaksulu]

As far as I have investigated, double dipping means having accepted illegal deeds to GC property in the north or having otherwise dealt with Gc property for financial gain.

Merely occupying GC property does not count. Is this so? So people who are merely staying in a GC house allocated to them by the TRNC would not be disqualified from retaking their properties in the south?

Nikitas,

Those TCs who gave their property deeds on the property they own in the south to the "trnc", it then becomes the "property" of the "trnc", and if and when these TCs try to get their properties in the south, whether they still have the GC property in the north or sold it, they then become "double dippers", which is also punishable by the "trnc" on those TC who attempt this venture, because the "trnc" believes they are the new owners of the TC's property in the south and not the TC owner himself, because he was compensated with stolen GC property in the north.!

You can see the whole thing is legal and on the up and up in the north on how the stolen GC properties are dealt with.!

Does that make sense Kikapu ? If a TC with property in the south moved to the north and "gave their property deeds on the property they own in the south to the "trnc", [and] it then becomes the "property" of the "trnc"" then how can they then claim for their southern property if they do not have title deeds ? The RoC authorities are surely not going to return properties to claimants who cannot produce title ?

There's something not quite right about this account.

On a broader point, if the TRNC does not hold the title deed then there's absolutely nothing they can do regarding property claims in the south by TCs or anyone else. If TRNC does have the title deeds of erstwhile TC property owners of the south, they're useless bits of paper whose value and purpose cannot be realised by the TRNC. In this respect of "exchange title", and TC title in the south the TRNC authorities are involved in one big fiction, or self-delusion, I should say.

Copperline; you do not need original deeds to reclaim your own properties in the south. Birth certs of parents and grandparents(if they exist) and a letter from the muhtar will put you on the right track. That is why there are so many double-dippers. The Land registry are very vigilant but they still slip through.

[CopperLine]

As far as I have investigated, double dipping means having accepted illegal deeds to GC property in the north or having otherwise dealt with Gc property for financial gain.

Merely occupying GC property does not count. Is this so? So people who are merely staying in a GC house allocated to them by the TRNC would not be disqualified from retaking their properties in the south?

Nikitas,

Those TCs who gave their property deeds on the property they own in the south to the "trnc", it then becomes the "property" of the "trnc", and if and when these TCs try to get their properties in the south, whether they still have the GC property in the north or sold it, they then become "double dippers", which is also punishable by the "trnc" on those TC who attempt this venture, because the "trnc" believes they are the new owners of the TC's property in the south and not the TC owner himself, because he was compensated with stolen GC property in the north.!

You can see the whole thing is legal and on the up and up in the north on how the stolen GC properties are dealt with.!

Does that make sense Kikapu ? If a TC with property in the south moved to the north and "gave their property deeds on the property they own in the south to the "trnc", [and] it then becomes the "property" of the "trnc"" then how can they then claim for their southern property if they do not have title deeds ? The RoC authorities are surely not going to return properties to claimants who cannot produce title ?

There's something not quite right about this account.

On a broader point, if the TRNC does not hold the title deed then there's absolutely nothing they can do regarding property claims in the south by TCs or anyone else. If TRNC does have the title deeds of erstwhile TC property owners of the south, they're useless bits of paper whose value and purpose cannot be realised by the TRNC. In this respect of "exchange title", and TC title in the south the TRNC authorities are involved in one big fiction, or self-delusion, I should say.

Copperline; you do not need original deeds to reclaim your own properties in the south. Birth certs of parents and grandparents(if they exist) and a letter from the muhtar will put you on the right track. That is why there are so many double-dippers. The Land registry are very vigilant but they still slip through.

Thanks, denizaksulu. So what prevents cousin X who lives in London from claiming title without cousin Y who lives in Adelaide knowing that there's any property to which cousin Y is entitled ?

[denizaksulu]

As far as I have investigated, double dipping means having accepted illegal deeds to GC property in the north or having otherwise dealt with Gc property for financial gain.

Merely occupying GC property does not count. Is this so? So people who are merely staying in a GC house allocated to them by the TRNC would not be disqualified from retaking their properties in the south?

Nikitas,

Those TCs who gave their property deeds on the property they own in the south to the "trnc", it then becomes the "property" of the "trnc", and if and when these TCs try to get their properties in the south, whether they still have the GC property in the north or sold it, they then become "double dippers", which is also punishable by the "trnc" on those TC who attempt this venture, because the "trnc" believes they are the new owners of the TC's property in the south and not the TC owner himself, because he was compensated with stolen GC property in the north.!

You can see the whole thing is legal and on the up and up in the north on how the stolen GC properties are dealt with.!

Does that make sense Kikapu ? If a TC with property in the south moved to the north and "gave their property deeds on the property they own in the south to the "trnc", [and] it then becomes the "property" of the "trnc"" then how can they then claim for their southern property if they do not have title deeds ? The RoC authorities are surely not going to return properties to claimants who cannot produce title ?

There's something not quite right about this account.

On a broader point, if the TRNC does not hold the title deed then there's absolutely nothing they can do regarding property claims in the south by TCs or anyone else. If TRNC does have the title deeds of erstwhile TC property owners of the south, they're useless bits of paper whose value and purpose cannot be realised by the TRNC. In this respect of "exchange title", and TC title in the south the TRNC authorities are involved in one big fiction, or self-delusion, I should say.

Copperline; you do not need original deeds to reclaim your own properties in the south. Birth certs of parents and grandparents(if they exist) and a letter from the muhtar will put you on the right track. That is why there are so many double-dippers. The Land registry are very vigilant but they still slip through.

Thanks, denizaksulu. So what prevents cousin X who lives in London from claiming title without cousin Y who lives in Adelaide knowing that there's any property to which cousin Y is entitled ?

As I have said, that will put you on the right track. In my case itwas smple. I was sole heir to my fathers property. Matters get more complicated where due inheritance has more than one heir. Wit that I have a problem in my own extended family. Disputes and some mebers being involved in 'double dipping render a soluton nigh impossible. I am waiting for one of them to migrate (6 ft under) before we can prceed. Thei heirs are more common sensical.
In short, to answer your question, you need to get a concensus of opinion and trust.

It is known and sad that some will 'bir donum tarla icin analarini satarlar'.

Concensus, power of Attorney and a good solicitor who will deal with your case. But you know this already.