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Turkish Cypriots seek redress for property in European court

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Postby Malapapa » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:09 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Why hasnt the EU member 'RoC' given backthese refugees properties or paid compensation, where the EU now.


why does the trnc not give the gcs houses back instead of selling it and not allowing them to go home just because your not recognised or in the eu? well turkey is trying both.. does not mean they are exempt from rules


you are the ones who claim to be European and abide by all the rules obviously not, you only apply the rules that benefit GCs.


And what do you claim to be, and what rules do you abide by - hoodwinking greedy lowlifes into parting with money for an opportunity to trespass on other people's land?
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:28 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Why hasnt the EU member 'RoC' given backthese refugees properties or paid compensation, where the EU now.


why does the trnc not give the gcs houses back instead of selling it and not allowing them to go home just because your not recognised or in the eu? well turkey is trying both.. does not mean they are exempt from rules


you are the ones who claim to be European and abide by all the rules obviously not, you only apply the rules that benefit GCs.


the trnc is part of nowhere so does that mean you guys can ignore every law? the eu/un ones? the turks are not only abiding to the laws that suite them? when it suits them they are happy to listen to eu/un laws and condem countries for not abiding by them..

for a "state" that is trying to become legal and ignoring all the laws thats not good. you claim to be a state yet ignore all the laws.

tcs and gcs should be allowed to go home, though i can see a flood of gcs going to re claim their homes if turks allowed it, they cant have flood of gcs in the north that would be bad for them
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Postby CopperLine » Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:38 pm

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paliometoxo wrote:they should come and claim their properties. its turkey who forced them into the north not us gcs... i hope they do get their houses and lands back.. good luck to them :)


I too hope they will reclaim what is theirs but I hope the Court asks a few searching questions like; how much "exchange" land were you given, have you sold it and/or do you intend to give it back to the Greek Cypriot owner?


Jerry, I assume you meant your comment glibly. The question you suggest might be searching but it would have no bearing on the case and therefore would not be asked by the court. It would have been a justifiable outrage if a judge of the High Court said to Apostelides "well I know that you've not had access to your home for 35 years and the Orams nicked your house, but what interests me is how the RoC government has supported you ?" Mr Apostolides would rightly and diplomatically tell the judge that it was none of his effing business or rather "it is not germane to the case before the court."
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:01 pm

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paliometoxo wrote:they should come and claim their properties. its turkey who forced them into the north not us gcs... i hope they do get their houses and lands back.. good luck to them :)


I too hope they will reclaim what is theirs but I hope the Court asks a few searching questions like; how much "exchange" land were you given, have you sold it and/or do you intend to give it back to the Greek Cypriot owner?


Jerry, I assume you meant your comment glibly. The question you suggest might be searching but it would have no bearing on the case and therefore would not be asked by the court. It would have been a justifiable outrage if a judge of the High Court said to Apostelides "well I know that you've not had access to your home for 35 years and the Orams nicked your house, but what interests me is how the RoC government has supported you ?" Mr Apostolides would rightly and diplomatically tell the judge that it was none of his effing business or rather "it is not germane to the case before the court."


I believe Jerry was referring to the courts in the RoC and not the ECHR.!

I assume the ECHR will direct these TCs to the RoC to exhaust all local remedies first, would they not.??
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Postby humanist » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:15 pm

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Why hasnt the EU member 'RoC' given backthese refugees properties or paid compensation, where the EU now.


Because you have not given back what belongs to GC refugees. (childish response to a childish comment)

On a more serious note I hope the TC's who have filed suit win. They ought to have their properties given back to them. But be careful TC"s because you could shoot yourselves in the foot. By expecting to receive properties back from the RoC the same Court may find that GC's should be given their properties back. Can mama Turkey afford (a) to give properties back and (b) pay compensation and truly pay compensation for denying GC's their assets. Remember its the same Court.
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Postby CopperLine » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:16 pm

Kikapu wrote:
I assume the ECHR will direct these TCs to the RoC to exhaust all local remedies first, would they not.??


Sort of -- rather than the Court directing, it would not be admitted for judgment by the ECHR if the local remedies had not already been exhausted.
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Postby humanist » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:20 pm

But as far as I know there is no issue about TC's getting their properties back. I don't believe is unreasonable for the RoC's rule that TC's wanting properties back should live in the RoC for a period of six months. That way stops double dipping into refugee properties in the occupied area.
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Postby CopperLine » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:20 pm

humanist wrote:VP
Why hasnt the EU member 'RoC' given backthese refugees properties or paid compensation, where the EU now.


Because you have not given back what belongs to GC refugees. (childish response to a childish comment)

On a more serious note I hope the TC's who have filed suit win. They ought to have their properties given back to them. But be careful TC"s because you could shoot yourselves in the foot. By expecting to receive properties back from the RoC the same Court may find that GC's should be given their properties back. Can mama Turkey afford (a) to give properties back and (b) pay compensation and truly pay compensation for denying GC's their assets. Remember its the same Court.


Humanist,
On a more serious note, it's a court not a sweet shop or a bank. It doesn't go "Well that's one for you, and one for you, and one for you ... no, no, you've had one already, .... that's one for you, and ... oh dear, we seem to have run out of compensation funds ... come back tomorrow and we might have got some more in ..."
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Postby Vincehugo » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:43 pm

humanist wrote:But as far as I know there is no issue about TC's getting their properties back. I don't believe is unreasonable for the RoC's rule that TC's wanting properties back should live in the RoC for a period of six months. That way stops double dipping into refugee properties in the occupied area.


Please could you explain to me how the "six month" rule prevents double dipping?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:46 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Why hasnt the EU member 'RoC' given backthese refugees properties or paid compensation, where the EU now.


why does the trnc not give the gcs houses back instead of selling it and not allowing them to go home just because your not recognised or in the eu? well turkey is trying both.. does not mean they are exempt from rules


you are the ones who claim to be European and abide by all the rules obviously not, you only apply the rules that benefit GCs.


And what do you claim to be, and what rules do you abide by - hoodwinking greedy lowlifes into parting with money for an opportunity to trespass on other people's land?


I do not cliam anything you are the ones who cliam you are a democratic human rights respesting nation, all bullshit.
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