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Germany convinced Cyprus solution possible

Postby humanist » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:13 am

GERMAN REUNIFICATION was one of the most touching historical moments in the country’s history and this is what Germans want for the people of Cyprus today, said German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle yesterday.

“The people of Cyprus may know and should know that the people of Germany have a lot of sympathy with you and we feel in the same way, because we have been a divided country for many years and we will never forget the very special moment when the wall came down,” he said after meeting with his Cypriot counterpart Marcos Kyprianou yesterday.

Noting that reunification was one of the most touching historical moments in Germany’s history, he said: “This is also what we would wish to you and to your island and to the people of Cyprus”.

The German minister added: “We experienced ourselves what it means to live in a divided country and we wish you of course what we had twenty years ago.”

Westerwelle said he had “excellent” and “very fruitful” discussions with Kyprianou, noting that his visit was an expression of the “traditional excellent relations” between Cyprus and Germany. Germany’s aim was to treat all states, large and small, as equal members of the EU, he added.

The two ministers discussed the Cyprus problem, Gaza and the Middle East and Kosovo in light of Thursday’s opinion by the International Court of Justice which ruled that Kosovo’s declaration of independence was not illegal.

Commenting on the decision, Kyprianou highlighted the fact that the Court “distinguishes the case of Cyprus from that of Kosovo”.

“This is very important. It specifically does so. It explains why the unilateral declaration of independence is illegal concerning the Turkish occupied part of Cyprus,” he said.

Cyprus is one of only five EU member states that have refused to recognise Kosovo’s independence from Serbia.

“Our position on Kosovo remains unchanged and we believe that any change to the territorial integrity of a country has to come through discussions and negotiations. We will study the opinion very thoroughly and we will continue being constructive regarding the development and assistance to Kosovo in the EU,” said Kyprianou.

Westerwelle echoed the view that Kosovo was a “very specific” case and “has nothing to do with any other cases in the world”.

“There is a special historical background and this opinion of the judges had to do with this specific historical background and this specific situation, and it is not a decision for other countries or for other regions in the world,” he said, adding, “it is a unique decision in a unique situation with a unique historical background”.

On the Cyprus peace talks, the German minister said he was convinced that a solution was possible “if both sides act constructively and in a spirit of understanding”, highlighting his country’s support to the process.

Kyprianou said the two discussed President Demetris Christofias’ latest proposals in the talks, which Turkish Cypriot leader Dervis Eroglu has already rejected.

“We believe this will help progress and the speeding up of the talks and other issues as well, such as the progress in negotiations for Turkey’s accession to the EU,” said the Cypriot minister.

Support for Christofias’ proposals on Famagusta, the property issue and an international conference on Cyprus came all the way from Russia yesterday, with Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Andrei Nesterenko describing them as “a very important step towards finding a mutually acceptable solution through the intercommunal negotiations”.

Nesterenko reaffirmed Moscow’s support to the talks process and called upon the international community to do the same. “The attempts to take decisions on behalf of the Cypriots, ie. imposing deadlines and arbitration, are not productive,” he said.




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Postby Bananiot » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:37 am

Humanist, do you think that only Turkey plays communication games? Christofias is merely trying to copy Turkey on this one, the one step ahead policy of Erdogan. However, I am not sure he will succeed for he is doing too little too late in a half heartedly way. The stupid franks know a crook when they see one, believe me. Christofias is scared sick of the forthcoming judgment by the GS of the UN and he is trying desperately to convince the international community that it is the Turkish side that is stalling the talks. He has accused Eroglu of trying to change the basis of the negotiations and he makes the international community laugh with purpose when the strongest voices for a change of course come from the Greek Cypriots and none is more vociferous than that of his partners in government.

You must also realise Humanist that the diplomatic tone must not be confused with unequivocal support. When Erdogan goes to Moscow and Berlin, he gets the pampering too.
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Postby humanist » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:28 am

so what's your suggestion then Bananiot?
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:48 am

humanist wrote:so what's your suggestion then Bananiot?

You sure you want the opinion of someone who said just an hour ago...

Bananiot wrote:Who the heck cares about Cyprus? The world has more pressing issues and it will always have more pressing issues.


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Postby Bananiot » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:01 am

Yes, who cares about Cyprus, when Cypriots do not give a penny's thought. The international community is simply fed up with us and our spoiled child's antics. We have accused just about everybody who tried to lend a hand, even Greece at various times, of betrayal. Now we are on our own. The thought that GR cares about Cyprus sends chills down my spine.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:07 am

My suggestions Humanist were posted in this forum some time ago. Basically I pointed out that when Christofias took over, ending the stalemate of the Papadopoulos era, he should have started the negotiations using the Annan Plan as the starting point. Just after the referenda Christofias declared that his party said "NO" in order to cement a "YES" vote in a forthcoming referendum which would include certain improvements to the A.P. so that the Greek Community could give a resounding "YES". He should have gone to the negotiations with the changes he wanted at hand, not with an entirely open agenda that gave the other side the opportunity to appear even harder (anyone could have foreseen this happening). He bungled badly and now he is looking for a way out, hoping that Eroglu will be his (and our) saviour, if you understand what I mean.
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Postby B25 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:31 am

Banana,

are you familiar with the terms;

Null and Void
Refused
Rejected
Not Acceptable
Denied
thrown out
dead and buried?????

Thes are what the AP are and you have to learn to deal with it. As much as it pains your buddies, the GC community gave a resounding FUCK OFF to it and its authours.

Now, any idiot can come on here and say 'If they did this' or If they did that' well with hindsight we would all be gods.

The Ankara Plan was never a just and workable solution, and to have taken it and try to bodge it would have made it a million times worse.

We were not looking for just anything to try and squese a yes vote, we wanted something solid, workable and for future security, we don't care that we upset you and your mates by refusing the shit you placed in front of us. Do you understand the difference??????

Hows the summer break from your evil government job going. I guess you will refusing all the retirement benefits when you are out a??? Oops, did I say something wrong then :oops:
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:21 pm

No you didn't but who are you? An insignificant fascist who hides behind anonymity.
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