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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:07 am

CopperLine wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Rolandis tells the truth, he never minces his words. His list of plans we rejected was reported first in the Greek Cypriot press. He is the most rational and pragmatic person that resides in this island and if he has Turkish friends, like secular Yusuf Kanli, good for him. Only a distorted mind can see a collaborator in Rolandis but if one needs to seek out collaborators, then one needs to look no further than those whose interests (personal or thick nationalistic ones) made them reject every single solution plan that was put in front of us since 1947.


Well said.

Seeing you’ve jumped on Bananiot’s bandwagon (of stupidity) how about you explain to readers why Cyprus needs “plans” to work!

Could it be that the 250 odd dead during the 1963…67 inter-communal joke of a conflict is so high a figure that we MUST have a plan for peace to prevail, whereas the 1.5 million dead in Iraq do not and thus only need democracy?
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:16 am

GR

What is terribly wrong here Bananiot, is not that Cyprus has been rejecting plans, but that some body keeps producing and introducing them!


Absolutely, these fools should have left us bite the dust a long time ago. Also, I am much obliged for allowing me to have my opinion. Rather generous of you.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:17 am

GR, you need help my friend. I am really concerned about you.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:31 am

Bananiot wrote:GR, you need help my friend. I am really concerned about you.

Given all these "plans" it’s obvious that some body is very eager for Cyprus not to be independent…for Cyprus not to be a democracy by the Cypriots and for the Cypriots!

But people like you and Rolandis, obviously DO NOT have the mental capacity to foresee these things and instead foolishly draw up lists of diabolical plans presented and blame the Cypriots for rejecting them instead of questioning those who orchestrated them!

Now what was that again about you or Rolandis being "rational and pragmatic" ??? :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:38 am

Here’s a list of plans for you and Rolandis to choose from… :wink:

Your plans!
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1. Jump over a cliff!
2. Hang yourself!
3. Shoot yourself!
4. Get run over by a bus!



Now take your time to pick one Bananiot, but just make sure you don’t come back and tell me you reject them all because then… I’ll have no choice but to call you intransigent and non-solutionist! :cry:
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:41 am

It's more serious than I thought GR. Who the heck cares about Cyprus? The world has more pressing issues and it will always have more pressing issues. That is why they have had enough of us and our spoiled child mentality.

Goodnight now, and I am looking forward to reading more of your dissertation on those committing crimes against humanity.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:48 am

Bananiot wrote:It's more serious than I thought GR. Who the heck cares about Cyprus?

I DO!

The world has more pressing issues and it will always have more pressing issues.

Like what exactly? Committing horrendous war crimes in other parts of the world where there are bigger populations and thus more blood to be spilt? Their hunger has indeed become insatiable...

That is why they have had enough of us and our spoiled child mentality.

Good! If they're leaving then tell them to take their plans and shove them where the sun doesn’t shine because we’re not interested! :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:28 am

How about a plan to adopt the US constitution in its entirety?

Would they then tells us that it is not a good enough move and we should have something more "suitable to our situation"?

I think they would, considering that every single plan offered so far has included diminished sovereignty and modified human rights. Something that no self respecting American would tolerate.
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Re: Rolandis collaborator

Postby DT. » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:45 am

Kifeas wrote:Yusuf Kanli of Hurriyet Daily News is a Turkish Cypriot, anti-Greek Cypriot and pro partition Denktashist fanatic. One needs only read his numerous articles in HDN to immediately figure out the colors of his shield. Recently, he gave out Nicos Rolandis, that horrible, miserable and idiotic retired GC politician, as his collaborator. Enjoy Yusuf kanli (and Nicos Rolandis too) in the following link. On the right column you may also read the most recent of Kanli’s articles on Cyprus, so as not to have any doubts where he comes from.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2010-07-21


I do not record the stance of the Turkish side.


He says when he knows full well that msot of those plans were rejected and then modified by the turkish side before being rejected by the GC side. I especially point out denktash era plans.

Sad individual desparately trying to achieve significance when the world has past him by. An ancient former minister amongst hundreds of former ministers this country has had who felt so highly of himself that he decided to run for Secretary General of the UN. (if no one cares about what i say in Cyprus perhaps they'll elect me to run the UN :? )

Demented, forgotten and of average intelligence. Only to be remembered by Bananiot when he so desparately needs to find someone from a DEKO govt that supports his views, not noticing the irony that this "principled" minister that disagreed so much with Kyprianou somehow still found it in his heart to maintain his ministerial position.
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Re: Rolandis collaborator

Postby Murataga » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:57 am

Kifeas wrote:Yusuf Kanli of Hurriyet Daily News is a Turkish Cypriot, anti-Greek Cypriot and pro partition Denktashist fanatic. One needs only read his numerous articles in HDN to immediately figure out the colors of his shield. Recently, he gave out Nicos Rolandis, that horrible, miserable and idiotic retired GC politician, as his collaborator. Enjoy Yusuf kanli (and Nicos Rolandis too) in the following link. On the right column you may also read the most recent of Kanli’s articles on Cyprus, so as not to have any doubts where he comes from.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2010-07-21


You have to admit though the list is impressive :)

Peace moves rejected by Greek Cypriots:

1) 1948: Consultative Assembly: We rejected it.

2) 1955-56: Harding proposals: We rejected them.

3) 1956: Ratcliffe Constitution: We rejected it.

4) 1958: Macmillan Plan: We rejected it.

5) 1959-60: Zurich-London Agreements: We rejected them in 1963 (through the efforts to amend the Constitution) although we initially accepted them.

6) 1964: Acheson Plan: We rejected it.

7) 1972: Agreement of Clerides-Denktaş: We rejected it.

8 ) 1975: Bicommunal Arrangement: We rejected it.

9) 1978: Anglo-American Canadian Plan: We rejected it.

10) 1981: Evaluation of Waldheim: We rejected it.

11) 1983: Indicators of Perez de Cuellar: We rejected them.

12) 1985-86: Consolidated Documents of Perez de Cuellar: We rejected them.

13) 1992: Set of Ideas, Boutros Boutros-Ghali: We rejected them in 1993.

14) 1997: Kofi Annan's proposals at Troutbeck-Glion: They could not go through.

15) 2002-2004: Annan Plan: We rejected it.
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