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Postby Oracle » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:25 am

Personally, I only spit/spat at Turkey :D

But, Bananiot ... is a "forum fascist" one who spits or licks Israel, now? And was he/she always a "forum fascist" when he licked or 'spit' at Israel, before? Because, they can't be forever "forum fascists" if they waver their convictions. Only bigots remain steadfast despite changing circumstances ....
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:17 am

So an anti fascist is a bigot because he is steadfast in his/her convictions. Great thinking and, by the way, any news from ELAM?
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Postby Lit » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:32 am

Bananiot wrote:Some hints as to why the Greek state did not have full diplomatic ties with the Jewish state:

1. In 1917 a huge fire raged in Salonica. It started on a Saturday when the Jewish shops were shut. The wind conveninently blew from the north. It is called Vardaris in northern Greece. The number of homeless reached 80 000. Half of them were Jews. The rest, Armenians and Ottomans. There were only very few Greeks.


You say Salonica had very few Greeks. How do you explain this New York Times article published in 1897 that states "Greeks predominating in the south about Salonica"? Could it possibly be that you are wrong?

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-fr ... 94669ED7CF

Bananiot wrote:2. After 25 years, in 1942, the Greeks gave to the Germans the remaining Jews on a plate. The church played a key role, for the Jews committed the worst sin, they killed Jesus! On July 11 1942, freedom Square in Salonica was bursting at the seams, with 50 000 Greek Jews stigmatised with the yellow star od David.


You say "Jews on a plate" yet there are countless stories like this Jerusalem post below. Could it possibly be that you are wrong?

http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/Article.aspx?id=162994

Bananiot wrote:3. On October 11 1821, the rebellious Greeks of Kolokotronis, entered Tripolitsa. For 2 days people were slaughtered like lambs and if you think that only the Turks were put down, you are wrong. The Jewish population of Tripolitsa was also decimated. These atrocities led to a number of foreign fighters that were fighting with the rebellious Greeks against the Ottomans to leave Greece in disgust.


Those rebellious Greeks in 1821, what were they thinking? Surely it would have been better if the Greeks remained under the Ottoman yolk.
BTW After all these articles mentioning Western fears of nationalist Turkey looking east you still say in this forum that the RoC is going to need help come December when the UN apportions blame. Who is going to blame the RoC...is it the United States? Is it France? The SG of the UN? Believe me when i say that you haven't a clue. Let us see, you were wrong about the Talat elections, you are wrong about your drivel above, you will be wrong come December and i will be here to remind you of it. Could it possibly be that you are ALWAYS wrong? :wink:
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Postby Lit » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:35 am

New era in Greek-Israeli relations

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Postby yialousa1971 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:49 am

Bananiot wrote:So an anti fascist is a bigot because he is steadfast in his/her convictions. Great thinking and, by the way, any news from ELAM?


They are doing well. :D
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:53 am

You need to do some serious reading Lit, I suggest "Polemos and ethnokatharsi" by Tasos Costopoulos. Read it and then we talk.


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Postby Lit » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:35 pm

Bananiot wrote:
How was I wrong about the Talat elections?


Where to begin. First you stated that Talat would not run for the TC leadership last year if no peace agreement was reached. You blathered on about why the RoC doesn't have noble leaders like Mr. Talat. Then when Talat did run, you blathered on how the TCs would not make the same mistake the GCs did with TPAP. These are conversations you had with me. I am sure you have been wrong many times with other contributors of this forum as well....but who is counting ;-)
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Postby Lit » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:23 pm

Lit wrote:
Bananiot wrote:
How was I wrong about the Talat elections?


Where to begin. First you stated that Talat would not run for the TC leadership last year if no peace agreement was reached. You blathered on about why the RoC doesn't have noble leaders like Mr. Talat. Then when Talat did run, you blathered on how the TCs would not make the same mistake the GCs did with TPAP. These are conversations you had with me. I am sure you have been wrong many times with other contributors of this forum as well....but who is counting ;-)


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Postby Lit » Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:34 am

Netanyahu offers natural gas to Greece

In latest bid to fill vacuum left by broken alliance with Turkey, PM seeks new energy ties with trans-Mediterranean pipeline plan.

By Avi Bar-Eli

During his recent visit to Greece, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu suggested to his Greek counterpart that the country purchase natural gas from Israel, but did not discuss the move with National Infrastructure Ministry officials beforehand, TheMarker has learned.

Netanyahu was thought to be referring to gas that may be found at the Leviathan offshore prospect, and suggested that a pipeline be built between Greece and Israel in order to transport the gas.

Israel has been courting Greece since ties with Turkey, once a major regional ally, deteriorated following Israel's invasion of Gaza in late 2008 and its raid in May on a Gaza-bound aid flotilla, which left nine Turkish citizens dead.

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Postby Lit » Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:30 pm

Greece, Israel carry out first joint military exercise since Gaza convoy raid

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By The Associated Press (CP) – 2 hours ago

ATHENS, Greece — Greece and Israel are carrying out their first joint military exercise since Greece suspended a drill in May after Israeli forces killed nine people on an aid convoy to Gaza.

The Greek air force says eight Israeli helicopters are taking part in the combat search-and-rescue exercise in southern Greece. Greece is participating with three helicopters and six fighter jets.

The four-day exercise ends Thursday.

Athens strongly condemned the Israeli raid on the aid convoy, which included two Greek ships and was trying to break Israel's blockade of Gaza.

But relations quickly improved, with Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou visiting Israel in July, and a reciprocal visit to Greece in August by Benjamin Netanyahu.
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