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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:55 pm

Filitsa wrote:
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Filitsa wrote:Must of been sneaking in and out the back door 'cause I've seen some Cyps with distinct African features: kinky hair, flat nose, full lips, or some combination thereof. Years ago, I met a black man whose Cypriot was impeccable.

Blacks from Africa were brought to Cyprus by the Ottomans as slaves.


Yes, and these black slaves affected the gene pool just as black slaves did in the Americas and elsewhere.

The Cypriots to whom I refer above include a few of my very own relatives. I also had a great aunt from Kerkyra who had dark skin and African features, and most of her children followed suit. Toke on that one, Yialousa!


The blacks were Muslims so could not marry Christians! Kerkyra, wheres that, Corfu?


And that stopped them from engaging in sexual relations? Come on, Yialousa, don't be so naive.

Kerkyra, wheres that, Corfu?


"A real Cypriot" wouldn't have to ask. :wink:


Stick to facts and not Nordist bullshit!
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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:58 pm

fig head wrote:Who photoshoped sphinx !!!


Malawanker! And it was the Turks that knocked his nose off.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:13 pm

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fig head wrote:Who photoshoped sphinx !!!


Malawanker! And it was the Turks that knocked his nose off.


No it wasn't.


Missing nose and beard



'Limestone fragments of the Sphinx's beard
The one-metre-wide nose on the face is missing. The Egyptian Arab historian al-Maqrīzī, writing in the 15th century AD, attributes the loss to iconoclasm by Muhammad Sa'im al-Dahr, a Sufi Muslim from the khanqah of Sa'id al-Su'ada. In AD 1378, upon finding the Egyptian peasants making offerings to the Sphinx in the hope of increasing their harvest, Sa'im al-Dahr was so outraged that he destroyed the nose, and was hanged for vandalism. Al-Maqrīzī describes the Sphinx as the "talisman of the Nile" on which the locals believed the flood cycle depended. A story claims that the nose was broken off by a cannonball fired by Napoléon's soldiers and that legend still lives on today. Other variants indict British troops, the Mamluks, and others. However, sketches of the Sphinx by the Dane Frederic Louis Norden, made in 1737 and published in 1755, illustrate the Sphinx already without a nose.
In addition to the lost nose, a ceremonial pharaonic beard is thought to have been attached, although this may have been added in later periods after the original construction. Egyptologist Vassil Dobrev has suggested that had the beard been an original part of the Sphinx, it would have damaged the chin of the statue upon falling.[14] The lack of visible damage supports his theory that the beard was a later addition.'

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Try again. :lol:
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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:38 pm

Although the head of the Sphinx is badly battered in some places, traces of the original paint can still be seen near one ear. Originally it is believed that the Sphinx was painted and was quite colorful. Since then, the nose and beard have been broken away. The nose was the unfortunate victim of target practice by the Turks in the Turkish period. It is often erroneously assumed that the nose was shot off by Napoleon's men, but 18th century drawings reveal that the nose was missing long before Napoleon's arrival.

http://www.guardians.net/egypt/sphinx/
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:27 pm

You can find links to prove anything. Give us a date of the 'rhinectomy'.

Try again. :lol:

From Giza, Egypt
Perhaps New Kingdom, 14th century BC

Together with the nearby pyramids, the Great Sphinx at Giza is one of the great symbols of ancient Egypt. It is generally attributed to Khafre, the king who built the second pyramid. It was carved out of local limestone, which was probably left over from rock used for construction of the 'Great Pyramid' of Khufu (Greek: Kheops), Khafre's father.

The British Museum has this small fragment - about one-thirtieth in total - of the Great Sphinx's beard. It was presented by Giovanni Battista Caviglia, who excavated at Giza in 1817 and cleared parts of the Sphinx, which was then buried in sand up to the neck. His expenses were covered by Henry Salt (British Consul-General) and other British businessmen, with an agreement that finds be presented to The British Museum. This was done according to a directive of Mohammed Ali Pasha, who was at that time virtually the ruler of Egypt.

Caviglia found a number of fragments of the beard and the tip of the uraeus between the paws of the Sphinx, and left other parts of the beard in the sand. When the Sphinx was cleared in 1925-26 some other fragments were removed to the Cairo Museum.

The sphinx takes the form of a lion's body with a royal head, symbolizing the immense power of the king. The fragment shows the beard to have been of the plaited, 'divine' type, depicted on gods and the dead, rather than kings and the living (see an example on the sarcophagus of Sasobek, also in The British Museum). However, it is doubtful whether it would have had a beard when first carved in about 2550 BC; it was probably added during restoration work in the Eighteenth Dynasty (about 1550-1295 BC), and fell off in antiquity. It has sometimes been suggested that damage to the face was caused during the late eighteenth century by Napoleon's troops. In fact an early fifteenth-century Arab historian reported that the face had been disfigured in his time. Seventeenth- and mid-eighteenth-century drawings, made before the French expedition to Egypt, appear to support his report.


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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:35 pm

In the more modern era, when Napoleon arrived in Egypt in 1798, the Sphinx was buried once more with sand up to its neck, at by this point, we believe the nose had been missing for at least 400 years. Between 1816 and 1817, the Genoese merchant, Caviglia tried to clear away the sand, but he only managed to dig a trench down the chest of the statue and along the length of the forepaws. Auguste Mariette, the founder of the Egyptian Antiquities Service,also attempted to excavate the Sphinx, but gave up in frustration over the enormous amount of sand. He went on to explore the Khafre Valley Temple, but returned to the Great Sphinx to excavate in 1858. This time, he managed to clear the sand down to the rock floor of the ditch around the Sphinx, discovering in the process several sections of the protective walls around the ditch, as well as odd masonry boxes along the body of the monument which might have served as small shrines. However, he apparently still did not clear all the sand.



In 1885, Gaston Maspero, then Director of the Antiquities Service, once again tried to clear the Sphinx, but after exposing the earlier work of Caviglia and Mariette, he also was forced to abandon the project due to logistical problems.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/sphinx1.htm
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Postby Malapapa » Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:53 am

I don't think he's quite ready for history lessons, deniz. We need to get the basics first. Here you go, YiaLoser. Let me know how you get on.

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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:07 am

Malapapa wrote:I don't think he's quite ready for history lessons, deniz. We need to get the basics first. Here you go, YiaLoser. Let me know how you get on.



I noticed you did not give him the ancient Cypro-script. But he would do better with the Greek Alphabet.
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Re: Are Cypriots white?

Postby pretty-as-pink » Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:01 pm

Omer Seyhan wrote:Have we already had this discussion?

Do pigs fly??
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Re: Are Cypriots white?

Postby apc2010 » Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:15 pm

pretty-as-pink wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:Have we already had this discussion?

Do pigs fly??


Have you got wings..?????
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