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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:12 pm

Bananiot wrote:Could you please inform us GR, when in 1995 the Serbs attacked Srebrenica and committed the infamous Srebrenica genocide, which law did they break?

It’s the same old story… the Cancer of minorities, I often talk about!

Here’s how it works… or doesn’t!

An invader from the past leaves behind a bunch of his people who gradually grow in number, isolate themselves because in their minds they are “different” (often spurred by their country of origin), and refuse to assimilate with the natives/locals, so the authority of the country decides that if they won’t assimilate they want them out thus resulting in ethnic conflict and rebellion!

The correct procedure is for ethnic minorities to either assimilate or be repatriated to their country of origin, as nobody is interested in having rebellious foreigners roaming around!
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Postby insan » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Could you please inform us GR, when in 1995 the Serbs attacked Srebrenica and committed the infamous Srebrenica genocide, which law did they break?

It’s the same old story… the Cancer of minorities, I often talk about!

Here’s how it works… or doesn’t!

An invader from the past leaves behind a bunch of his people who gradually grow in number, isolate themselves because in their minds they are “different” (often spurred by their country of origin), and refuse to assimilate with the natives/locals, so the authority of the country decides that if they won’t assimilate they want them out thus resulting in ethnic conflict and rebellion!

The correct procedure is for ethnic minorities to either assimilate or be repatriated to their country of origin, as nobody is interested in having rebellious foreigners roaming around!


It sounds like it's the fault of Ottomans who couldn't put sufficient effort to islamize or Turkify(assimilate) "you" all... or transfer you to the territories that majorly inhabited by Greco-Phones...

Look at me for example... who knows in what century my ancestors were assimilated to be Turkic... now, in general; i have no problem being among the Turkic people...

... with the fall of "European Empire" you will be welcomed to join the Turkic or Arabic people... :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:39 pm

insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Could you please inform us GR, when in 1995 the Serbs attacked Srebrenica and committed the infamous Srebrenica genocide, which law did they break?

It’s the same old story… the Cancer of minorities, I often talk about!

Here’s how it works… or doesn’t!

An invader from the past leaves behind a bunch of his people who gradually grow in number, isolate themselves because in their minds they are “different” (often spurred by their country of origin), and refuse to assimilate with the natives/locals, so the authority of the country decides that if they won’t assimilate they want them out thus resulting in ethnic conflict and rebellion!

The correct procedure is for ethnic minorities to either assimilate or be repatriated to their country of origin, as nobody is interested in having rebellious foreigners roaming around!


It sounds like it's the fault of Ottomans who couldn't put sufficient effort to islamize or Turkify(assimilate) "you" all... or transfer you to the territories that majorly inhabited by Greco-Phones...

Look at me for example... who knows in what century my ancestors were assimilated to be Turkic... now, in general; i have no problem being among the Turkic people...

... with the fall of "European Empire" you will be welcomed to join the Turkic or Arabic people... :lol:

But you haven't commented on the issue...

Should minorities:

1. Assimilate
2. Be repatriated.
3. Rebel for an independent state.

?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:40 pm

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Could you please inform us GR, when in 1995 the Serbs attacked Srebrenica and committed the infamous Srebrenica genocide, which law did they break?

It’s the same old story… the Cancer of minorities, I often talk about!

Here’s how it works… or doesn’t!

An invader from the past leaves behind a bunch of his people who gradually grow in number, isolate themselves because in their minds they are “different” (often spurred by their country of origin), and refuse to assimilate with the natives/locals, so the authority of the country decides that if they won’t assimilate they want them out thus resulting in ethnic conflict and rebellion!

The correct procedure is for ethnic minorities to either assimilate or be repatriated to their country of origin, as nobody is interested in having rebellious foreigners roaming around!


It sounds like it's the fault of Ottomans who couldn't put sufficient effort to islamize or Turkify(assimilate) "you" all... or transfer you to the territories that majorly inhabited by Greco-Phones...

Look at me for example... who knows in what century my ancestors were assimilated to be Turkic... now, in general; i have no problem being among the Turkic people...

... with the fall of "European Empire" you will be welcomed to join the Turkic or Arabic people... :lol:

But you haven't commented on the issue...

Should minorities:

1. Assimilate
2. Be repatriated.
3. Rebel for an independent state.

?


If they treat the minority as the GCs treated the TCs then 3.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:44 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Should minorities:

1. Assimilate
2. Be repatriated.
3. Rebel for an independent state.

?


If they treat the minority as the GCs treated the TCs then 3.

Haven't you read the whole thing?

"An invader from the past leaves behind a bunch of his people who gradually grow in number, isolate themselves because in their minds they are “different” (often spurred by their country of origin), and refuse to assimilate with the natives/locals, so the authority of the country decides that if they won’t assimilate they want them out thus resulting in ethnic conflict and rebellion!"
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Should minorities:

1. Assimilate
2. Be repatriated.
3. Rebel for an independent state.

?


If they treat the minority as the GCs treated the TCs then 3.

Haven't you read the whole thing?

"An invader from the past leaves behind a bunch of his people who gradually grow in number, isolate themselves because in their minds they are “different” (often spurred by their country of origin), and refuse to assimilate with the natives/locals, so the authority of the country decides that if they won’t assimilate they want them out thus resulting in ethnic conflict and rebellion!"


You havent read my response if minorities are treated badly they rebel and fight for survival and their rights.
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Postby insan » Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:46 pm

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Could you please inform us GR, when in 1995 the Serbs attacked Srebrenica and committed the infamous Srebrenica genocide, which law did they break?

It’s the same old story… the Cancer of minorities, I often talk about!

Here’s how it works… or doesn’t!

An invader from the past leaves behind a bunch of his people who gradually grow in number, isolate themselves because in their minds they are “different” (often spurred by their country of origin), and refuse to assimilate with the natives/locals, so the authority of the country decides that if they won’t assimilate they want them out thus resulting in ethnic conflict and rebellion!

The correct procedure is for ethnic minorities to either assimilate or be repatriated to their country of origin, as nobody is interested in having rebellious foreigners roaming around!


It sounds like it's the fault of Ottomans who couldn't put sufficient effort to islamize or Turkify(assimilate) "you" all... or transfer you to the territories that majorly inhabited by Greco-Phones...

Look at me for example... who knows in what century my ancestors were assimilated to be Turkic... now, in general; i have no problem being among the Turkic people...

... with the fall of "European Empire" you will be welcomed to join the Turkic or Arabic people... :lol:

But you haven't commented on the issue...

Should minorities:

1. Assimilate
2. Be repatriated.
3. Rebel for an independent state.

?


In my opinion; their cultural idendity should be respected and depending on their population ratio within the major ethnic group(s) and the regions mainly inhabited by those minorities should be granted local autonomy or a consociational democratic system in order to allow them effectively participate in state affairs... Only a culturally sapiential people of a country could really achieve this... if of course there aren't many external factors/powers continually destablizing the system and people in direction of their national, regional and global interests...

I'm totally against repatriation because it's not practical and humanistic to repatriate the people who have been living on a territory for hundreds or thousands of years... Voluntary population transfer is more rational and humanistic but still not practical...

If nothing works for keeping a multi-national country united because of any reason; then inevitably the rebellion for independence appears and if independence movement finds some legal ground and support of global powers, ends up like for example how Kosovo declared it's independence after almost a century lasted ethnic conflict, war and sufferings of the people of segregated country...

Everything revolves around the interests of global powers... US&Co's VS Rusia-China&Co's...

The degree of their intervention depends on how much interests they have in a place and how powerful they are to control it in favour of themselves...

Why do most of the countries that have ethnic issues in their countries argue that Kosovo's declaration of independence violates the international law but others argue the otherwise? The so-called international laws are only valid when it serve the interests of this country or that country... Interprete the laws as how it suits you... Abuse the power and status "you" have in international organizations and make it looks democratic and lawful...

Is it unjust?For who?
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Postby Bananiot » Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:38 pm

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An invader from the past leaves behind a bunch of his people who gradually grow in number, isolate themselves because in their minds they are “different” (often spurred by their country of origin), and refuse to assimilate with the natives/locals, so the authority of the country decides that if they won’t assimilate they want them out thus resulting in ethnic conflict and rebellion!

The correct procedure is for ethnic minorities to either assimilate or be repatriated to their country of origin, as nobody is interested in having rebellious foreigners roaming around!


Sick answer GR. You are in effect saying that they got slaughtered because they deserve it. Sick, very sick indeed. Never, never in your life talk about human rights (or war crimes) ever again.
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:20 pm

Get Real! wrote:The corrupt and immoral Copperline is salivating at the destruction of Serbia and theft of her territory that now forms this “Kosovo” ambiguity.

I’ll remind the fool that in 1999 the US attack of Serbia (which ultimately led to everything else) was a war crime in its own right of which I doubt the ICJ bothered to take into consideration!

That’s the problem when international law & order breaks down because we allow the main corrupt protagonists like the US, UK, and Israel, to conduct crimes against humanity around the world thus making it impossible for justice to prevail!

A law abiding court would’ve never approved of an illegal invasion such as that of the US against Serbia, contrary to the UN Charter! If anything, this decision by the ICJ proves that corruption, chaos and anarchy reign supreme and that the Cyprus Problem can only be solved militarily.



Fuckwit Get Real! wrote:The correct procedure is for ethnic minorities to either assimilate or be repatriated to their country of origin, as nobody is interested in having rebellious foreigners roaming around!


Not so ambiguous here:

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Looks like it is the serbs who are in actual fact, 'the minority' in Kossovo!
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Postby Me Ed » Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:55 pm

"What effect does this have on the Cyprus problem?"

None.

Everything Turkey has done to the territory since 1974 has made it impossible for the international community to stomach giving it any recognition of any kind.

Either keep working towards reunification without Turkish interference or accepting the status quo is the best the TCs can ever hope for.
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