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[Viewpoint]

Each side is looking for a way out of the talks. Who do you think will fold first after 2 years of wasting time?

im surprised they went on this long, its obvious both sides will never agree on what a solution is especially with ergulul man in charge

with the statement of partition or nothing do they expect the gcs to jump and say partition? of course they will fail its just a matter of when and as you said who will back off first

When the talks break down the world will act and Im sure the GCs will not like it.

maybe or maybe it will be the other way around,, but for sure one side or maybe both will hate the outcome when forced into a solution that either benefits one side or none.. but seeing as the banana plan favoured the turks maybe so will the next we are forced into when talks collapse... who knows we will see but it is 100% sure they will fail

Its good that you have started to understand that there is something brewing after the talks collapse.

[Get Real!]

maybe or maybe it will be the other way around,, but for sure one side or maybe both will hate the outcome when forced into a solution that either benefits one side or none.. but seeing as the banana plan favoured the turks maybe so will the next we are forced into when talks collapse... who knows we will see but it is 100% sure they will fail

Its good that you have started to understand that there is something brewing after the talks collapse.

There will definitely be something brewing in the KEO and Carlberg factories to celebrate the death of the Turkish “BBF”!

[Malapapa]

Each side is looking for a way out of the talks. Who do you think will fold first after 2 years of wasting time?

im surprised they went on this long, its obvious both sides will never agree on what a solution is especially with ergulul man in charge

with the statement of partition or nothing do they expect the gcs to jump and say partition? of course they will fail its just a matter of when and as you said who will back off first

When the talks break down the world will act and Im sure the GCs will not like it.

maybe or maybe it will be the other way around,, but for sure one side or maybe both will hate the outcome when forced into a solution that either benefits one side or none.. but seeing as the banana plan favoured the turks maybe so will the next we are forced into when talks collapse... who knows we will see but it is 100% sure they will fail

Its good that you have started to understand that there is something brewing after the talks collapse.

There can be no change to the status of your outlaw regime without the approval of the Cypriot people. Any attempts will be challenged and be hugely costly to those making such attempts.

But let's humour you for the sake of argument. As you're after legitimacy and recognition, there are a couple of hundred thousand people, and their descendants, who would have legitimate citizenship rights in the northern areas, through birth. What would your now legitimate, recognised state do about these rights, to maintain its legitimacy?

Collectively, all these people have many billions of euros worth of property/compensation claims? What would your now legitimate, recognised state do about these claims, to maintain its legitimacy?

The status quo is the best you can hope for, VP.

[Viewpoint]

We are not after recognition at this stage, a relaxation the isolation is what we want and it looks like the EU are taking the necessary action to force your hand, something will give at the end of the year...the pressure will be on the GCs to accept a deal maybe direct trade/flights ports in exchnage for Maraş.

[paliometoxo]

Each side is looking for a way out of the talks. Who do you think will fold first after 2 years of wasting time?

im surprised they went on this long, its obvious both sides will never agree on what a solution is especially with ergulul man in charge

with the statement of partition or nothing do they expect the gcs to jump and say partition? of course they will fail its just a matter of when and as you said who will back off first

When the talks break down the world will act and Im sure the GCs will not like it.

maybe or maybe it will be the other way around,, but for sure one side or maybe both will hate the outcome when forced into a solution that either benefits one side or none.. but seeing as the banana plan favoured the turks maybe so will the next we are forced into when talks collapse... who knows we will see but it is 100% sure they will fail

Its good that you have started to understand that there is something brewing after the talks collapse.

i do understand this but hopefully we will get a miracle and nothing will need happen, a solution benefits both sides not just tc or gc and turkey is worse off in a no solution and we all saw what happened when a solution was forced apon cyprus

[denizaksulu]

Was this a request?

[Malapapa]

We are not after recognition at this stage, a relaxation the isolation is what we want and it looks like the EU are taking the necessary action to force your hand,

The EU will force the hand of the free Cypriots (who are part of the EU) like they'll force the hand of Turkey's regime to address issues like citizenship, restitution of properties and/or compensation.

something will give at the end of the year...the pressure will be on the GCs to accept a deal maybe direct trade/flights ports in exchnage for Maraş.

There will be no deals unless they're demonstrably in the interests of those having to accept them. 'Force' and 'Pressure' makes it sound as though what's on offer won't be in their interests.

[Malapapa]

i do understand this but hopefully we will get a miracle and nothing will need happen, a solution benefits both sides not just tc or gc and turkey is worse off in a no solution and we all saw what happened when a solution was forced apon cyprus

I'm not convinced. VP talks about 'forcing' and 'pressuring' Cypriots free of Turkey's iron grip to 'accept a deal'. Why do free Cypriots need to be forced/pressured into accepting something that's to their benefit? I'm sorry, it doesn't add up.

[Viewpoint]

i do understand this but hopefully we will get a miracle and nothing will need happen, a solution benefits both sides not just tc or gc and turkey is worse off in a no solution and we all saw what happened when a solution was forced apon cyprus

I'm not convinced. VP keeps talks about 'forcing' and 'pressuring' Cypriots free of Turkey's iron grip to 'accept a deal'. Why do free Cypriots need to be forced/pressured into accepting something that's to their benefit? I'm sorry, it doesn't add up.

Hello, you are pressured not forced by the international community to compromise and see that there is nothing else on offer, if once again the GCs miss the boat they will be in deep shit...time is running out for Gc maximilist politics compromises will be made like it or not.

[Malapapa]

i do understand this but hopefully we will get a miracle and nothing will need happen, a solution benefits both sides not just tc or gc and turkey is worse off in a no solution and we all saw what happened when a solution was forced apon cyprus

I'm not convinced. VP keeps talks about 'forcing' and 'pressuring' Cypriots free of Turkey's iron grip to 'accept a deal'. Why do free Cypriots need to be forced/pressured into accepting something that's to their benefit? I'm sorry, it doesn't add up.

Hello, you are pressured not forced

Hello, make up your mind... you're all over the place:

it looks like the EU are taking the necessary action to force your hand,

by the international community to compromise and see that there is nothing else on offer,

Unless what's on offer is worth accepting, nothing will be accepted.

if once again the GCs miss the boat they will be in deep shit...time is running out for Gc maximilist politics compromises will be made like it or not.

You're such a (self-confessed, I might add) stupid. Compromises will not be made, unless it's by mutual consent.