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Oh Palio, the position of TCs is not partition or nothing, but a solution based on realities.

have you heard your leader talk? Have you heard the visiting Turks talk recently they have clearly stated just the other day TC are a priority because there are two distinct ppl on the Island and two nations. Does that ring a bell?

have you read zan's and vp's coments of recent .... lol the partition vote appears to be very strong Ackizoz

you guys keep changing the goal post every time

What is he saying so wrong? arent we 2 different people, you are of Greek origin and I am of Turkish origin, we have different laguages and religion and we current have a 2 state solution on the table.

[Kikapu]

How would Turkey have control of the island if the AP passed please enlighten us, just claiming it would be so is not good enough, its like me stating that one day you will say something positive about the TCs.

So you didn't read what I wrote to Açikgöz after all if you are asking such a question. Here, read it first.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=50

The 20th July celebrations stuck in your throat Kikapu, Turkey will always choose the TRNC first you just have problems understanding this fact just as you do not understand how Turkey benefits from supporting her TC brothers.

We are not so impressed with military parades as adults as we were kids. I've seen Turkish Independence parades in Ankara as a kid and was very taken by the whole nationalistic feelings and dreamt about being part of the parade, which about the same time you were born in the UK. Most of us have grown out of such impressionable acts, but quite obviously, you still have a long ways to go yet before you too grow out of it, if ever..!

[runaway]

I've seen Turkish Independence parades in Ankara as a kid t:

Childhood in Ankara had a deep impact in someone's life. One wonders why

[Kikapu]

ack

Oh Palio, the position of TCs is not partition or nothing, but a solution based on realities.

have you heard your leader talk? Have you heard the visiting Turks talk recently they have clearly stated just the other day TC are a priority because there are two distinct ppl on the Island and two nations. Does that ring a bell?

have you read zan's and vp's coments of recent .... lol the partition vote appears to be very strong Ackizoz

you guys keep changing the goal post every time

What is he saying so wrong? arent we 2 different people, you are of Greek origin and I am of Turkish origin, we have different laguages and religion and we current have a 2 state solution on the table.

You are occupying someone else's land which it does not belong to you solely. That is your problem in getting a two separate independent states. But I've had asked you few times before, which was, what is it worth to you that you are wîllibng to return back to the rightful owners of their land and property to have your own independent state in the north of Cyprus.??

So far I haven't seen any indication that it is worth anything to you, since you think you can keep it all, a fantasy dream that even Hollywood could not create such an illusions with a straight face.!

[Kikapu]

I've seen Turkish Independence parades in Ankara as a kid t:

Childhood in Ankara had a deep impact in someone's life. One wonders why

[paliometoxo]

either way we know why turkey is so persistant to have a solution and trying to threaten card...

they have much to gain. in cyprus and turkey

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ack

Oh Palio, the position of TCs is not partition or nothing, but a solution based on realities.

have you heard your leader talk? Have you heard the visiting Turks talk recently they have clearly stated just the other day TC are a priority because there are two distinct ppl on the Island and two nations. Does that ring a bell?

have you read zan's and vp's coments of recent .... lol the partition vote appears to be very strong Ackizoz

you guys keep changing the goal post every time

What is he saying so wrong? arent we 2 different people, you are of Greek origin and I am of Turkish origin, we have different laguages and religion and we current have a 2 state solution on the table.

You are occupying someone else's land which it does not belong to you solely. That is your problem in getting a two separate independent states. But I've had asked you few times before, which was, what is it worth to you that you are wîllibng to return back to the rightful owners of their land and property to have your own independent state in the north of Cyprus.??

So far I haven't seen any indication that it is worth anything to you, since you think you can keep it all, a fantasy dream that even Hollywood could not create such an illusions with a straight face.!

I have clearly stated my views on land return yet you continously choose to ignore them.

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How would Turkey have control of the island if the AP passed please enlighten us, just claiming it would be so is not good enough, its like me stating that one day you will say something positive about the TCs.

So you didn't read what I wrote to Açikgöz after all if you are asking such a question. Here, read it first.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=50

The 20th July celebrations stuck in your throat Kikapu, Turkey will always choose the TRNC first you just have problems understanding this fact just as you do not understand how Turkey benefits from supporting her TC brothers.

We are not so impressed with military parades as adults as we were kids. I've seen Turkish Independence parades in Ankara as a kid and was very taken by the whole nationalistic feelings and dreamt about being part of the parade, which about the same time you were born in the UK. Most of us have grown out of such impressionable acts, but quite obviously, you still have a long ways to go yet before you too grow out of it, if ever..!

Your synopsis is total crap you have bypassed the TC factor which you will never understand as you are biased no even racist against the people you cliam to have come from.

As for military parades they occur in many countries all over the world and it is a time to feel proud safe and nationalistic...if you are missing these emotions then thats your problem not ours.

[Kikapu]

How would Turkey have control of the island if the AP passed please enlighten us, just claiming it would be so is not good enough, its like me stating that one day you will say something positive about the TCs.

So you didn't read what I wrote to Açikgöz after all if you are asking such a question. Here, read it first.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=50

The 20th July celebrations stuck in your throat Kikapu, Turkey will always choose the TRNC first you just have problems understanding this fact just as you do not understand how Turkey benefits from supporting her TC brothers.

We are not so impressed with military parades as adults as we were kids. I've seen Turkish Independence parades in Ankara as a kid and was very taken by the whole nationalistic feelings and dreamt about being part of the parade, which about the same time you were born in the UK. Most of us have grown out of such impressionable acts, but quite obviously, you still have a long ways to go yet before you too grow out of it, if ever..!

Your synopsis is total crap you have bypassed the TC factor which you will never understand as you are biased no even racist against the people you cliam to have come from.

As for military parades they occur in many countries all over the world and it is a time to feel proud safe and nationalistic...if you are missing these emotions then thats your problem not ours.

There is no "TC" factor in what Turkey does or wants to do in the north. You think there is, but there isn't. It is only an illusion, that's all. It is all about what she can get out of the north for herself and the AP was a prime example of that. You think the AP was to benefit the TCs when in fact, once the AP had passed and eventually the north broke off and became an independent EU member state, the north state might as well be called "Turkey" officially, not that it's too far from being that now in every sense. Turkey does not need the TCs, she just needs the "TC brand" so to label her people as TCs in the north, as she has done already, which is why the real TCs have lost their political voice in the north when it comes to elections. You have gotten your nose way too far up Turkey's but to smell anything else than what Turkey tells you. Luckily for me, my nose is too far away from Turkey's butt, therefore I don't have to deal with the whiff you are so used to sniffing to intoxicate yourself with.!

Sure every country has their own military parades and air shows and fireworks on special occasions, but they are done by their own people and not by an occupying power in others country. How can you feel nationalistic about that when a foreign power is having a parade on your soil to show off their achievements.? July 20th is not the time and the place in the north for this military parade to take place, just because the events does not fit the occasion. It would be more appropriate for them to take place in Turkey for their own people if they needed some nationalistic stimulation, but not in Cyprus.!

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Kikapu

There is no "TC" factor in what Turkey does or wants to do in the north. You think there is, but there isn't. It is only an illusion, that's all. It is all about what she can get out of the north for herself and the AP was a prime example of that. You think the AP was to benefit the TCs when in fact, once the AP had passed and eventually the north broke off and became an independent EU member state, the north state might as well be called "Turkey" officially, not that it's too far from being that now in every sense. Turkey does not need the TCs, she just needs the "TC brand" so to label her people as TCs in the north, as she has done already, which is why the real TCs have lost their political voice in the north when it comes to elections. You have gotten your nose way too far up Turkey's but to smell anything else than what Turkey tells you. Luckily for me, my nose is too far away from Turkey's butt, therefore I don't have to deal with the whiff you are so used to sniffing to intoxicate yourself with.!

Its because you are so far away you do not have a clue or right to judge Tcs the way you do. What does one do if they are in agreement with their one and only ally? they act in unision, this happens all over the world just as the Gcs do with Greece, so not amount of underestimating the Tcs will wash with me, the TCs have not ever been given reason to go against Turkey the GCs continue to persue policies which cement our partnership even further and pushes us furtehr away from wanting to unite with our arch enemies. Where do you think Tcs came from do you understand that we are Turkish in origin? so these comments about Turkey do not mean jack shit, the wedge you are trying to force between TCs and Turks will not work has not worked and your feable attempts are laughable to anyone with half a brain that see right through your biased and racist posts.

Sure every country has their own military parades and air shows and fireworks on special occasions, but they are done by their own people and not by an occupying power in others country. How can you feel nationalistic about that when a foreign power is having a parade on your soil to show off their achievements.? July 20th is not the time and the place in the north for this military parade to take place, just because the events does not fit the occasion. It would be more appropriate for them to take place in Turkey for their own people if they needed some nationalistic stimulation, but not in Cyprus.!

I think the day your family was plucked from life threatening danger is a day to celebrate and celebrate we will, your comments are irrelevent as you are not a part of this country.