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[bill cobbett]

Two fucking years of talks and this is the best he could come up with, bloody hell time for this guy to get thrown out of office.

.... err.... that might go down as Turkish Intransigence and Lack of Goodwill I fear VP.

The rejected old offer after 2 years will be viewed as intrangience by the internaional community, well done christofias.

Fear you may not have read the bit in the statement where Our Beloved Pres X talks about an international conference.... did you miss it VP?

So Pres X seems to be offering a lot more than you have posted in the past day or so than just direct trade (with the EU's help) from Famagusta Port .... with a little goodwill on your part over Varosi.

Want another chance to show some Goodwill and a lot less Intransigence now VP and others???????

hey bill the meeting was our idea he rejected it now hes trying to make out its his, typical GC:

No VP and others, read the statement again please, What he's saying is to reach as much agreement as poss on the basis of the UN's interpretation of BBF ( and prob of the High Level Agreements) and then go to arbitration.

Whereas Errorgluey (and I fear you) have gone way off the bounds of the UN parameters in recent months. Have taken the hard line with your own interpretation of BBF, which we all know is the confederation model, or at the very least a plan which over time tends towards Partition.

Get back on track within the UN parameters is what Pres X is saying, agree as much as poss within those guidelines and then international conf to fill in gaps.

That is a lot diff from what Errorgluey has been saying, which is to stall the process, blame Pres X , and hoping to get what he wants from a conf.

[Viewpoint]

Hasnt he missed the Talat BBF train?

Im referring to internaitonal conference between the parties concerned, when we proposed it christofias refused stating we are not a party to the conflict???

[Nikitas]

Not quite the reason he mentioned. I recall reading in the GC papers that Christofias had said the international conference would make sense if it covered the truly international aspects of the issue, like guarantees, British bases and that part of the issue.

Turning the bicommunal talks into an international conference at this point would involve outsiders, which would include presumably the British, the EU and who knows who else, in strictly internal Cyprus issues best left to Cypriots. This was about a month ago in the media. IT does not sound unreasonabel given the experiences from the last time we had an international conference to sort out things.

[Viewpoint]

Not quite the reason he mentioned. I recall reading in the GC papers that Christofias had said the international conference would make sense if it covered the truly international aspects of the issue, like guarantees, British bases and that part of the issue.

Turning the bicommunal talks into an international conference at this point would involve outsiders, which would include presumably the British, the EU and who knows who else, in strictly internal Cyprus issues best left to Cypriots. This was about a month ago in the media. IT does not sound unreasonabel given the experiences from the last time we had an international conference to sort out things.

If after 2 years you are still thinking that the two sides will find a solution you are very mistaken, time for the big guns to wade in and end this once and for all if there is still stale mate then return of land for agree partition is the only way forward and what we deserve.

[bill cobbett]

Yes, the conf would be confined to international matters. Stand corrected.

This is what Pres X says...

The third proposal announced by President Christofias concerns the international conference on the Cyprus issue, to discuss the international aspect of the problem, which should be called only when an agreement has been reached on the internal aspects.

[Viewpoint]

Yes, the conf would be confined to international matters. Stand corrected.

This is what Pres X says...

The third proposal announced by President Christofias concerns the international conference on the Cyprus issue, to discuss the international aspect of the problem, which should be called only when an agreement has been reached on the internal aspects.

Which is never, you GCs are so naive.

[Nikitas]

Last time the big guns waded in they put together a recipe for disaster. Big guns tend to make big foulups. Looking around to Afghanista, Iraq and other places it would seem they are not the best "nation builders".

[bill cobbett]

Yes, the conf would be confined to international matters. Stand corrected.

This is what Pres X says...

The third proposal announced by President Christofias concerns the international conference on the Cyprus issue, to discuss the international aspect of the problem, which should be called only when an agreement has been reached on the internal aspects.

Which is never, you GCs are so naive.

Well if you chaps showed some Goodwill on the matters of Varosi to start with and showed movement on the Land Percentages later..... all things are possible.

[Viewpoint]

Last time the big guns waded in they put together a recipe for disaster. Big guns tend to make big foulups. Looking around to Afghanista, Iraq and other places it would seem they are not the best "nation builders".

Nikitas hasent 2 years taught you anything we Cypriots on both sides of the border are uncapable, incompetent and can never agree internal solutions so the international aspect will never happen its all a show nothing else.

[Nikitas]

Cyprus since 1974 must be the only case in history where the victor in the military area expects the vanquished to take the initiative!

And then we have that idiocy about zero problems with neighbors by Davutoglu.