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[Get Real!]

The solution to the Cyprus Problem!

I reiterate the solution to the Cyprus problem as handed down by the United Nations (the global authority on international disputes) over three decades ago!

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

The world should abide by the law it has signed and quit pussyfooting around with illegalities!

There are no ifs and no buts!

[CopperLine]

You'll see, Get Real, if you look carefully that the two resolutions that you post are dated 1974 and 1983. You'll also notice if you pay a little bit of attention that the current year is 2010. Further the fact that this year is 2010 and the resolutions you post are 36 and 27 years old demonstrates definitively that they have not, contrary to what you assert, been the solution to the Cyprus problem.

You remind me of the bar room lawyer who waves a copy of the Public Order Act at his fellow drinkers in dismay shouting "There cannot be drunk and disorderly behaviour, the Act forbids it." Yes, and ?

[insan]

The solution to the Cyprus Problem!

I reiterate the solution to the Cyprus problem as handed down by the United Nations (the global authority on international disputes) over three decades ago!

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

The world should abide by the law it has signed and quit pussyfooting around with illegalities!

There are no ifs and no buts!

R u sure?

Equally concerned about the necessity to restore the constitutional structure of the Republic of Cyprus, established and guaranteed by international agreements,

Who was/is trying to get rid of those international agreements supposedly imposed upon you?

[Get Real!]

You'll see, Get Real, if you look carefully that the two resolutions that you post are dated 1974 and 1983. You'll also notice if you pay a little bit of attention that the current year is 2010.

I’m glad that of all people you’ve decided to take a dive in this thread Copperline because I like you extra so now…

Supply a credible source that stipulates that UN Resolutions have a shelf life!

Further the fact that this year is 2010 and the resolutions you post are 36 and 27 years old demonstrates definitively that they have not, contrary to what you assert, been the solution to the Cyprus problem.

That's based on your assumption that they have been implemented and subsequently proven a failure!

I hope you entertain me better Copperline because your presumed intellect is already putting me to sleep!

[Acikgoz]

Copper, very good points, you sometimes forget how long ago much of this happened.

Makes me think - the same arguments roll around now as they did then, and nothing has changed.

[Gasman]

It is not just the UN resolutions affecting Cyprus that countries are in breach of, there are lots of others. Israel is right up there on the list of countries in breach of UN resolutions. Turkey too and not just for the Cyprus situation.

However, Turkey has been elected onto the Security Council of the UN many times (1951 – 1952, 1954 – 1955, 1961, 2009 – 2010).

Cyprus has never been elected onto the Security Council.

It is often said that the US controls what happens re the UN. And that they do not want the UN to be 'too powerful'.

[CopperLine]

You'll see, Get Real, if you look carefully that the two resolutions that you post are dated 1974 and 1983. You'll also notice if you pay a little bit of attention that the current year is 2010.

I’m glad that of all people you’ve decided to take a dive in this thread Copperline because I like you extra so now…

Supply a credible source that stipulates that UN Resolutions have a shelf life!

Further the fact that this year is 2010 and the resolutions you post are 36 and 27 years old demonstrates definitively that they have not, contrary to what you assert, been the solution to the Cyprus problem.

That's based on your assumption that they have been implemented and subsequently proven a failure!

I hope you entertain me better Copperline because your presumed intellect is already putting me to sleep!

What have I assumed wrongly : that these resolutions have been implemented ? Are you actually saying that they have not been implemented ? If so, as such a keen advocate of them maybe you can explain to us all why they have not been implemented.
Or is the supposed assumption that they have been a failure wrong ? Again if so can you point out to us all their successful results ?


The 'argument' you've just expressed is equally available to (i) those who say the 1960 constitution isn't the problem, it just wasn't implemented/given enough time; to (ii) those who say that Turkish intervention didn't go far enough/wasn't implemented hard enough; to (iii) those TC/GCs who say ethnic cleansing just didn't go far enough/wasn't implemented properly; to (iv) those who say give 1571/1914 a better chance/ implement it properly, to (v) those, even, who say AP was inherently a problem it just didn't get a chance to be implemented; and many, many more from across the political spectrum.

Those resolution have been implemented they just haven't been fulfilled. Declarations are easy, fulfillment is where the real politics bites.

[Get Real!]

However, Turkey has been elected onto the Security Council of the UN many times (1951 – 1952, 1954 – 1955, 1961, 2009 – 2010).

Yeah, so has Colombia!

1947 – 1948, 1953 – 1954, 1957 – 1958, 1969 – 1970, 1989 – 1990, 2001 – 2002

So what is your point here exactly pertaining to the thread issue?

Cyprus has never been elected onto the Security Council.

And neither has Israel, but would Turkey abide by international law if Cyprus was ever elected? If not then what's the point of all this???

It is often said that the US controls what happens re the UN. And that they do not want the UN to be 'too powerful'.

Again, you don't have anything relevant to say because this thread is not an analysis of the UNSC but a reiteration of a UN decision pertaining to Cyprus.

[Get Real!]

Those resolution have been implemented they just haven't been fulfilled. Declarations are easy, fulfillment is where the real politics bites.

Right, so you've decided that "fulfilled" is a more appropriate word than "implemented" to the point where you’re using this feeble rubbish of an argument to evade your folly!

[Get Real!]

Who was/is trying to get rid of those international agreements supposedly imposed upon you?

Get rid off or modify?

Still though... off-topic Insan!