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[CopperLine]

Those resolution have been implemented they just haven't been fulfilled. Declarations are easy, fulfillment is where the real politics bites.

Right, so you've decided that "fulfilled" is a more appropriate word than "implemented" to the point where you’re using this feeble rubbish of an argument to evade your folly!

I'll try once more Get Real, but if you don't want to engage and instead abuse then that's your prerogative.

Implement and fulfilment is the difference between shooting the ball at the net on the one hand and scoring a goal on the other hand. Germany 4, England 1 is not a semantic difference.

So, coming back to my questions of clarification, perhaps you care to tell us What I may have assumed wrongly : that these resolutions have been implemented ? Are you actually saying that they have not been implemented ? If so, as such a keen advocate of them maybe you can explain to us all why they have not been implemented.
Or is the supposed assumption that they have been a failure wrong ? Again if so can you point out to us all their successful results ?

[Get Real!]

So, coming back to my questions of clarification, perhaps you care to tell us What I may have assumed wrongly : that these resolutions have been implemented ? Are you actually saying that they have not been implemented ? If so, as such a keen advocate of them maybe you can explain to us all why they have not been implemented.
Or is the supposed assumption that they have been a failure wrong ? Again if so can you point out to us all their successful results ?

You’re wasting our time here and you know it!

If these UN Resolutions have NOT been abided by as of this date then how can you judge the effectiveness of their outcome?

[CopperLine]

So, coming back to my questions of clarification, perhaps you care to tell us What I may have assumed wrongly : that these resolutions have been implemented ? Are you actually saying that they have not been implemented ? If so, as such a keen advocate of them maybe you can explain to us all why they have not been implemented.
Or is the supposed assumption that they have been a failure wrong ? Again if so can you point out to us all their successful results ?

You’re wasting our time here and you know it!

If these UN Resolutions have NOT been abided by as of this date then how can you judge the effectiveness of their outcome?

Get Real, it is you who started the thread by insisting that only with these resolutions will there be a solution to the Cyprus problem. I'm just asking you for an explanation as to why after more than quarter of a century these resolutions clearly have not solved the Cyprus problem. Since you're so keen on them I thought that you'd have a good answer. Evidently I was mistaken.

[Jerry]

GR, whether you agree with them or nor there are too few articulate contributors to the forum. Your posts give me the impression that you equate "seeing/pissing them off", with your very clever remarks, to a solution of the Cyprus Problem. How come we still have the problem?

[Get Real!]

GR, whether you agree with them or nor there are too few articulate contributors to the forum. Your posts give me the impression that you equate "seeing/pissing them off", with your very clever remarks, to a solution of the Cyprus Problem. How come we still have the problem?

Because we are not abiding by international law!

I thought that was obvious...

[Oracle]

If a doctor prescribes some drugs and the patient doesn't take them, do we then conclude the drugs are ineffective?

[Jerry]

GR, whether you agree with them or nor there are too few articulate contributors to the forum. Your posts give me the impression that you equate "seeing/pissing them off", with your very clever remarks, to a solution of the Cyprus Problem. How come we still have the problem?

Because we are not abiding by international law!

I thought that was obvious...

Read and try to understand what I wrote again or are you in fact saying that "seeing/pissing them off" is not done according to international law.

[Get Real!]

Get Real, it is you who started the thread by insisting that only with these resolutions will there be a solution to the Cyprus problem. I'm just asking you for an explanation as to why after more than quarter of a century these resolutions clearly have not solved the Cyprus problem. Since you're so keen on them I thought that you'd have a good answer. Evidently I was mistaken.

Copperline, your arguments against the UN Resolutions pertaining to Cyprus are total flops because they DO NOT have an expiry date unless they specifically say so, and they HAVE NOT been proven a failure because they have NEVER been abided by.

Furthermore, if these UN Resolutions are “invalid” because you don’t seem to like them then that also suggests that the Cyprus Problem can NEVER be solved via an agreement because that too would be subject to abuse by the likes of you and everyone else out there who thinks they can pick & choose what to abide by!

In which case, the ONLY alternative left for the solution of the Cyprus Problem is that of violence. Let the communities who claim this island fight it out between themselves to determine once and for all the owner! Happy?

[Get Real!]

If a doctor prescribes some drugs and the patient doesn't take them, do we then conclude the drugs are ineffective?

Or that the doctor was bad!

[Get Real!]

GR, whether you agree with them or nor there are too few articulate contributors to the forum. Your posts give me the impression that you equate "seeing/pissing them off", with your very clever remarks, to a solution of the Cyprus Problem. How come we still have the problem?

Because we are not abiding by international law!

I thought that was obvious...

Read and try to understand what I wrote again or are you in fact saying that "seeing/pissing them off" is not done according to international law.

You too can have a go if you like at explaining to me how a Cyprus Problem "agreement" can ever work given that one or more of the parties involved may refuse to abide by it at some stage.

If you’re planning to suggest an international mechanism that ENFORCES such an agreement thus guaranteeing it, then I see no reason whatsoever why such a mechanism cannot be used with the decades old UN Resolutions 361 & 541!