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Help With A Word ... Carpet-bagger

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:27 pm

Am so bored....

Carpet-bagger

Am trying to get the new CY meaning of the word Carpet-Bagger and CF in to the OED.

Need amongst other things to get a published hard copy source of earliest possible usage of the CY meaning of this word/phrase, to add to earliest on-line evidence (naturally from CF).

Don't suppose anyone has an old copy of something like the CY Mail where this word occurs which i could cite?????

Oh and the evidence must follow the following guidelines and example...

References should be presented in the following order:
Date, author, title of source, date of edition used, precise location in text.


Examples of referencing from the Oxford English Dictionary
1851 H. W. LONGFELLOW Golden Legend v. 224 Elsie. What are these paintings on the walls around us? Henry. The Dance Macaber! Elsie. What? Henry. The Dance of Death. 1870 C. M . YONGE Caged Lion ix. 166 It is the Danse Macabre... It was invented as a warning to those of sinful life. 1938 Oxf. Compan. Mus. 251/1 Danse macabre. The idea of Death as a dancer, or as a fiddling inciter to the dance, is very ancient. 1966 Listener 17 Nov. 746/3 An Allegretto in G minor - a waltz-like danse macabre - which quotes the opening of the first cello concerto. 1989 W. ADAMS & J. W. BROCK Dangerous Pursuits v. xv. 175 Today, however, the danse macrabre goes on. Resources continue to be diverted from productivity-enhancing pursuits into nonproductive paper entrepreneurialism.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:36 pm

Do you mean "carpetbagger" or specifically "carpet-bagger"?
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:50 pm

Oracle wrote:Do you mean "carpetbagger" or specifically "carpet-bagger"?


happy with both.... OED uses carpet-bagger (with hyphen) for the traditional meaning, so hyphen or no hyphen, i'll sort it.
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Postby CBBB » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:14 pm

Nothing in the Cyprus Mail on-line archives, but perhaps you should just add to this article, after "Australia".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpetbagger
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:46 pm

Well the earliest ref to Carpetbagger here on CF is this one from 2005...

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Well said guys, Moose and Dutch, however I have already had the "fun" of being abused by the propaganda machine in the South over on the Kibris 54 boards. Mark of the beast, Menelaos, Vidos et al are always up for a good dose of verbal, makes the evenings more interesting, epsecially when I manage to dig up a bit more dirt to post on the Makarios / Grevias episode.

Just thinking of changing my handle to "Carpetbagger- and proud of it"

Actually, having lived in the South for 3 years a long while back, and visited both North and South a couple of times since, the North is definitely the place for me. However it is of course a matter of personal preference and I wish everybody the best of luck with their new life where ever they move to.

Interesting to hear you talk about prices. In spain they have not quite topped out, but they have risen so much that if you were to want to swap a nice 3 bed in the Thames Valley at (say) £350K, you would be paying the same in a nice area of spain. Over the last year I have watched the estate agents windows, what with selling my place, and there are a lot in the E1M bracket appearing now. I think the prices have risen to the point where unlike yester year when you would buy a house and have £100K in the bank, now you buy a house and have £10K left.

Yes, of course you can still get a 1 bed apartment for £75K , but those "nice villas" in the sunday papers, like Cumbre dl Sol at E300K are actually in an estate of about a thousand once you get to see them.

What does it cost in the South of Cyprus for say a 3 bed det with pool, aircon, 1/3 acre ?

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Postby Oracle » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:16 pm

Can you weave some spin about Ottoman rugs into the definition?

Oh, wait a minute! That's another myth, that they could create anything! :roll:
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