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Postby Oracle » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:46 am

Can we have more Sri Lankans and less TCs?
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:19 am

Nikitas wrote:"A whole city for a supervised port hardly tempting"

A whole RUINED city that needs to be rebuilt and from the rebuilding of which all Cypriots stand to gain more than ever in their lives. So let us keep some balance in this issue.


I think the fear may be that GCs with their far more prosperous and modern economy may divide the juicy work up amongst themselves, leaving the scraps for TCs. If you think TCs will labour on building sites for a wage, you may need to have another think.
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Read between the lines....

Postby cymart » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:34 am

This all has more to do with the 'blame game' than anything else!Until now,Turkey were ahead in the stakes and with only months left before some critical deadlines,Christophias seems to have seen the light and knows that he has to take initiatives to reverse the situation so that Turkey gets the blame instead if there is no solution!.His initiative has a good chance of being well received abroad,especially if Greece is co-ordinating it with him and it will put Erdogan in a difficult spot if other countries tell him that he should accept it because of the benefits to both sides!Furthermore as was revealed yesterday Turkey stands to gain billions from a solution in Cyprus,not just the people here on both sides so maybe it will be the catalyst that finally breaks the deadlock?
Unless of course Turkey still has no true intentions of solving the problem until E.U. membership for them is guaranteed and all their statements about solving it by the end of this year are just a smokescreen so the G.C.'s will be blamed instead??
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:05 pm

"I think the fear may be that GCs with their far more prosperous and modern economy may divide the juicy work up amongst themselves, leaving the scraps for TCs. If you think TCs will labour on building sites for a wage, you may need to have another think."

Divide the juicy work up among themselves for private home building? Naturally each person, like me and Cymart who want to rebuild homes in Famagusta will choose the best deal offered. Now if the TCs want to participate in this they are free to do so, they are doing so already working in the construction sector of the RoC every day.

A new factor in all this is that tradesmen and professionals from all over the EU will have the right to participate. And I want to see how builders from both sides can compete with my team of Polish craftsment who finished my house in Athens. Or how architects from both sides can compete with the prfabricated housing company that put up the same house in 14 days.

It is a new game out there, about time everyone realises this. If Famagusta is returned and I am still able to function, the plan is to trasnport the house in two containers and put it up and finish it in less than two months. With insulation and antiseismic values that far exceed even California standards at about half the cost of a conventional concrete house. I don't care who the assemblers will be.
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:37 pm

Nikitas wrote:"I think the fear may be that GCs with their far more prosperous and modern economy may divide the juicy work up amongst themselves, leaving the scraps for TCs. If you think TCs will labour on building sites for a wage, you may need to have another think."

Divide the juicy work up among themselves for private home building? Naturally each person, like me and Cymart who want to rebuild homes in Famagusta will choose the best deal offered. Now if the TCs want to participate in this they are free to do so, they are doing so already working in the construction sector of the RoC every day.

A new factor in all this is that tradesmen and professionals from all over the EU will have the right to participate. And I want to see how builders from both sides can compete with my team of Polish craftsment who finished my house in Athens. Or how architects from both sides can compete with the prfabricated housing company that put up the same house in 14 days.

It is a new game out there, about time everyone realises this. If Famagusta is returned and I am still able to function, the plan is to trasnport the house in two containers and put it up and finish it in less than two months. With insulation and antiseismic values that far exceed even California standards at about half the cost of a conventional concrete house. I don't care who the assemblers will be.


I was thinking more of the major civil engineering works on utility infrastructures and the demolition/rebuilding of hotels, schools, office blocks, etc. It is also interesting that you mention Polish workers as TCs won't only have to compete with GCs but every recently joined EU states workers.
I'm sure that if a study could be done to show the benefits of such a huge scheme to the TCs along with guarantees and assurances, maybe they might be more amenable.
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Postby B25 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:45 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"I think the fear may be that GCs with their far more prosperous and modern economy may divide the juicy work up amongst themselves, leaving the scraps for TCs. If you think TCs will labour on building sites for a wage, you may need to have another think."

Divide the juicy work up among themselves for private home building? Naturally each person, like me and Cymart who want to rebuild homes in Famagusta will choose the best deal offered. Now if the TCs want to participate in this they are free to do so, they are doing so already working in the construction sector of the RoC every day.

A new factor in all this is that tradesmen and professionals from all over the EU will have the right to participate. And I want to see how builders from both sides can compete with my team of Polish craftsment who finished my house in Athens. Or how architects from both sides can compete with the prfabricated housing company that put up the same house in 14 days.

It is a new game out there, about time everyone realises this. If Famagusta is returned and I am still able to function, the plan is to trasnport the house in two containers and put it up and finish it in less than two months. With insulation and antiseismic values that far exceed even California standards at about half the cost of a conventional concrete house. I don't care who the assemblers will be.


I was thinking more of the major civil engineering works on utility infrastructures and the demolition/rebuilding of hotels, schools, office blocks, etc. It is also interesting that you mention Polish workers as TCs won't only have to compete with GCs but every recently joined EU states workers.
I'm sure that if a study could be done to show the benefits of such a huge scheme to the TCs along with guarantees and assurances, maybe they might be more amenable.


Yeah, why don't we wipe their noses and kiss their sorry little arses whilst we are at it.

You talk as if they are goods gift to the earth to be worshipped. Dirty little theives know exactly what they are doing.

And as if they need a scumbag carpetbagger like VW to speak up for them, pft! Arsehole.
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Postby B25 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:46 pm

Nikitas wrote:"I think the fear may be that GCs with their far more prosperous and modern economy may divide the juicy work up amongst themselves, leaving the scraps for TCs. If you think TCs will labour on building sites for a wage, you may need to have another think."

Divide the juicy work up among themselves for private home building? Naturally each person, like me and Cymart who want to rebuild homes in Famagusta will choose the best deal offered. Now if the TCs want to participate in this they are free to do so, they are doing so already working in the construction sector of the RoC every day.

A new factor in all this is that tradesmen and professionals from all over the EU will have the right to participate. And I want to see how builders from both sides can compete with my team of Polish craftsment who finished my house in Athens. Or how architects from both sides can compete with the prfabricated housing company that put up the same house in 14 days.

It is a new game out there, about time everyone realises this. If Famagusta is returned and I am still able to function, the plan is to trasnport the house in two containers and put it up and finish it in less than two months. With insulation and antiseismic values that far exceed even California standards at about half the cost of a conventional concrete house. I don't care who the assemblers will be.


Just make sure there are no wheels on it, as there are enough gypsies to cart it away :lol: :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:47 pm

Cart it away and take it where? It is an island for heavens sake.
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What a pity...

Postby cymart » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:46 pm

That we started a discussion on what could be a very constructive and beneficial proposal for everyone-a real 'win-win' situation and then a few of the usual hotheads on this forum have to spoil it by slinging personal abuse at each other!A sad reflection on Cypriot reality and it is also shown by the way the political parties are behaving....
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Postby humanist » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:38 pm

cymart
That we started a discussion on what could be a very constructive and beneficial proposal for everyone-a real 'win-win' situation and then a few of the usual hotheads on this forum have to spoil it by slinging personal abuse at each other!A sad reflection on Cypriot reality and it is also shown by the way the political parties are


fully agree ;) well stated
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