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[Kikapu]

If Turkey can also bring down the cost of living as well theres no problem and its about time the public sector was revised and made to function properly they have gotten away with to much for to long.

Have you been to Turkey lately. Your average Turk is having a hard time getting by because most things are expensive in Turkey, and you are expecting for Turkey to bring down the cost of living in the north. I don't think so. You can expect the costs to go up even more, but not less.!

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If Turkey can also bring down the cost of living as well theres no problem and its about time the public sector was revised and made to function properly they have gotten away with to much for to long.

Have you been to Turkey lately. Your average Turk is having a hard time getting by because most things are expensive in Turkey, and you are expecting for Turkey to bring down the cost of living in the north. I don't think so. You can expect the costs to go up even more, but not less.!

Yes I was there last week, food, clothing and other essentials are very cheap in comparison to the TRNC thats why wages are noteably higher, purchasing power is much higher in Turkey.

[Kikapu]

Maraş should be reopened allowing previous owners to return but it should be done under the control of the TRNC otherwise if the reins are placed in the hands ofthe gcs we will be pushed to one side yet again.

Sure, VP, let the GCs rebuild Verosa while it's under the "trnc" rule, so that when it's all brand new again, you can kick the GCs out once again so that you can sell their brand new buildings to the morally corrupted.!

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Maraş should be reopened allowing previous owners to return but it should be done under the control of the TRNC otherwise if the reins are placed in the hands ofthe gcs we will be pushed to one side yet again.

Sure, VP, let the GCs rebuild Verosa while it's under the "trnc" rule, so that when it's all brand new again, you can kick the GCs out once again so that you can sell their brand new buildings to the morally corrupted.!

Noway that wouldnt happen in the EU, arent you the one who claims that such risks would never come about in the EU...tut tut, your falling into your own traps.

[Kikapu]

Maraş should be reopened allowing previous owners to return but it should be done under the control of the TRNC otherwise if the reins are placed in the hands ofthe gcs we will be pushed to one side yet again.

Sure, VP, let the GCs rebuild Verosa while it's under the "trnc" rule, so that when it's all brand new again, you can kick the GCs out once again so that you can sell their brand new buildings to the morally corrupted.!

Noway that wouldnt happen in the EU, arent you the one who claims that such risks would never come about in the EU...tut tut, your falling into your own traps.

"trnc" is not in the EU and never will be. That's the whole point.!

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Maraş should be reopened allowing previous owners to return but it should be done under the control of the TRNC otherwise if the reins are placed in the hands ofthe gcs we will be pushed to one side yet again.

Sure, VP, let the GCs rebuild Verosa while it's under the "trnc" rule, so that when it's all brand new again, you can kick the GCs out once again so that you can sell their brand new buildings to the morally corrupted.!

Noway that wouldnt happen in the EU, arent you the one who claims that such risks would never come about in the EU...tut tut, your falling into your own traps.

"trnc" is not in the EU and never will be. That's the whole point.!

Make up your mind you change like the wind as it suits you, would Maraş be in the EU or not?

[Kikapu]

If Turkey can also bring down the cost of living as well theres no problem and its about time the public sector was revised and made to function properly they have gotten away with to much for to long.

Have you been to Turkey lately. Your average Turk is having a hard time getting by because most things are expensive in Turkey, and you are expecting for Turkey to bring down the cost of living in the north. I don't think so. You can expect the costs to go up even more, but not less.!

Yes I was there last week, food, clothing and other essentials are very cheap in comparison to the TRNC thats why wages are noteably higher, purchasing power is much higher in Turkey.

I said the cost of living to the average Turk living in Turkey and not to a tourist like you with money in his pocket to spend, money coming largely from Turkey itself. Have you compared your income to the average Turk's in Turkey to make the statement that things are cheaper in Turkey.?? Sure fresh food and domestically produced clothing are manageable for many Turks, but what about all the slightly fancier products and imports, including petrol, which has to be worlds most expensive petrol, specially when the average Turk makes about $6,000 US Dollars a year.! Not many Turks have very much disposable income left to even come to the "trnc" for a holiday.

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If Turkey can also bring down the cost of living as well theres no problem and its about time the public sector was revised and made to function properly they have gotten away with to much for to long.

Have you been to Turkey lately. Your average Turk is having a hard time getting by because most things are expensive in Turkey, and you are expecting for Turkey to bring down the cost of living in the north. I don't think so. You can expect the costs to go up even more, but not less.!

Yes I was there last week, food, clothing and other essentials are very cheap in comparison to the TRNC thats why wages are noteably higher, purchasing power is much higher in Turkey.

I said the cost of living to the average Turk living in Turkey and not to a tourist like you with money in his pocket to spend, money coming largely from Turkey itself. Have you compared your income to the average Turk's in Turkey to make the statement that things are cheaper in Turkey.?? Sure fresh food and domestically produced clothing are manageable for many Turks, but what about all the slightly fancier products and imports, including petrol, which has to be worlds most expensive petrol, specially when the average Turk makes about $6,000 US Dollars a year.! Not many Turks have very much disposable income left to even come to the "trnc" for a holiday.

You claim you have lived in Turkey so stop playing silly buggers, the cost of living in Turkey is much lower therefore the buying power of their lower wages is greater, its called economics. So when you compare the equivalent person in the TRNC who get s a higher wage you have to allow for these very important differencies to appreciate why our wages are noticably higher.

[Kikapu]

Maraş should be reopened allowing previous owners to return but it should be done under the control of the TRNC otherwise if the reins are placed in the hands ofthe gcs we will be pushed to one side yet again.

Sure, VP, let the GCs rebuild Verosa while it's under the "trnc" rule, so that when it's all brand new again, you can kick the GCs out once again so that you can sell their brand new buildings to the morally corrupted.!

Noway that wouldnt happen in the EU, arent you the one who claims that such risks would never come about in the EU...tut tut, your falling into your own traps.

"trnc" is not in the EU and never will be. That's the whole point.!

Make up your mind you change like the wind as it suits you, would Maraş be in the EU or not?

Not if it's under the present rule of the "trnc" and under occupation by Turkey. Have you not heard about "Protocol 10". If the "trnc" was in the EU, why are there check points with the RoC and why are the Cypriots not allowed to exercise their 3 F's in the north afforded to all EU citizens withing the EU under the EU Principles.?

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Maraş should be reopened allowing previous owners to return but it should be done under the control of the TRNC otherwise if the reins are placed in the hands ofthe gcs we will be pushed to one side yet again.

Sure, VP, let the GCs rebuild Verosa while it's under the "trnc" rule, so that when it's all brand new again, you can kick the GCs out once again so that you can sell their brand new buildings to the morally corrupted.!

Noway that wouldnt happen in the EU, arent you the one who claims that such risks would never come about in the EU...tut tut, your falling into your own traps.

"trnc" is not in the EU and never will be. That's the whole point.!

Make up your mind you change like the wind as it suits you, would Maraş be in the EU or not?

Not if it's under the present rule of the "trnc" and under occupation by Turkey. Have you not heard about "Protocol 10". If the "trnc" was in the EU, why are there check points with the RoC and why are the Cypriots not allowed to exercise their 3 F's in the north afforded to all EU citizens withing the EU under the EU Principles.?

So the EU norms are suspended for the north which is called the TRNC, why not use this opportunity to impose areas of EU law that would eleviate the concerns of returning GCs and investors to Maraş which in turn would allow us and the world to witness if TCs and GCs can actually live work and prosper together, if successful it could work as a catalyst for the rest of the island.