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[halil]

Any more pictures of flowers and music and celebrations Halil ... or any one else?

I can put to many as well for u ....billy willy boy....

question is why every passing day TC's are going away for coming together with you lots. public trust towards you goes away Billy willy Boy...

u and your CO's are doing great job over TC's....still u don't understand it.

we also have too many pictures ...too many articles about your barbarism.

you and your CO's and propaganda machines only helps nationalism to increase very lately in TRNC.... keep on to do your great job.

of course they can play music and celebrate as far as they see your behaviors towards them.... they will go away slowly slowly from your hopes.

[insan]

Any more pictures of flowers and music and celebrations Halil ... or any one else?

I can put to many as well for u ....billy willy boy....

question is why every passing day TC's are going away for coming together with you lots. public trust towards you goes away Billy willy Boy...

u and your CO's are doing great job over TC's....still u don't understand it.

we also have too many pictures ...too many articles about your barbarism.

you and your CO's and propaganda machines only helps nationalism to increase very lately in TRNC.... keep on to do your great job.

of course they can play music and celebrate as far as they see your behaviors towards them.... they will go away slowly slowly from your hopes.

You know why Halil... politics, religion and ideologies...

GREEKS THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE NOT

Prepared by: K.N. Raif

page 5, Introduction

[...]

During my childhood, our Greek neighbors used to love me as if I was
their own child; and I remember their children playing happily in our
backyard.During my boyhood, I played football with my Greek friends and
at flirting age we ran together after the most alluring girls of our
town.

I remember taking our special dish of "Kadayif" to our Greek neighbors
during our "Bayram" festivities and receiving in reciprocation their
special "Pilavuna" during their "Easter" festivities.

When we grew up we enjoyed many feasts around the same tables and
frequented the same night-clubs. We attended to each other's funerals
and wedding ceremonies so many times that we knew exactly how to behave
on those occasions. And at maturity, we worked together at the same
government offices and jointly attended the same international seminars
and meetings of technical nature. What I mean is, I know Greeks as good
as I know Turks. They are great company, especially when it comes to
enjoy life together.

Then, what makes Greeks the way they are: so unfair, so cruel, so
unjust, so one-sighted and so undemocrat when it comes to politics,
religion and ideologies?

It seems to me that this is in their blood. However, there is no doubt
that the Greek educational structure and the Greek political parties
are highly influential in this regard.

Another factor I know for sure that is responsible for this phenomenon
is the Greek Orthodox Church. I will give an example for this from my
life experience.

One Sunday morning, my Greek friends collected me from my home for a
picnic. We were teenagers then. They said we had to pass by the church
because their parents would not allow them to go for picnic if they did
not attend the morning prayers. So, we went together to the church
which was also within our neighborhood.

The priest was preaching. the final words of the priest are still in my
ears:"...a good Greek is the one who is fortunate enough to kill a Turk
and bring his head to our church-yard. When the time comes you will all
be asked to do so. We will now pray for this time to come...soon..."

"This time" came during the Noel of 1963.

During this Noel, the Turkish community witnessed with great pain and
bewilderement that all their good Greek friends suddenly became
professional fighters running after their heads. Where and when these
people were mentally prepared and physically trained for such a cruel
and inhuman mission? Who were behind this hatred?

One final note for the reader: It is a historical fact that before the
Island entered under the Ottoman rule in 1571, there existed no
influential Greek community in the Island. The Island was then under
the Venecian rule and the Catholic leadership kept under severe
suppression the Greek population which was sparsely scattered on the
Island. After 1571, the Ottomans allowed the construction of new
Orthodox Churches at every settlement and granted autonomy to the Greek
Archbishopship. It is extremely sad that this very Archbishop, in years
to come, professed to its followers the genocide of the Island's Turks.
[...]

[runaway]

Israel lifts severe warning on travel to Turkey

Israel's Counter Terrorism Bureau has lifted a severe warning issued last month for Israelis to avoid traveling to Turkey, citing an end to stormy protests over Israel's deadly raid on a Gaza-bound flotilla.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... y-1.303069

Israeli Women Volleyball Team coming to Ankara next week for European League final. Greece is already out beaten by Türkiye and Israel. And south cyprus was never in. Haydi Türkiye!

[halil]

@Insan,
politics, religion and ideologies..... my friend up to where? do we have to wait them to come to their senses ? how long ?
are they ready to understand that life have to go in North too ? Why should we divert our lives the way they wants?

If u want really solution , u sit on the negotiating table and u negotiate acceptable solution for the benefits of the both communities. not to say only for me ...only for me. they laugh to u mate and they says lick your fingers mate.

If u think with ambargoes u will finish the TC's strenght.... u are wrong mate...those enclaved times are over.

keep your politics and ideologies for yourself.... we are abilty as well to find our destiny... we are not going to wait 40 more years to make your pasha will happy!

[verywitty]

BUTCHERS OF UNARMED CIVILIANS....

Unlike the noble hellenic force who offered cheese and flowers to every town they ever conquered. People are either diluted, indoctrinated or just ignorant

And the vast majority were also innocent civilian victims. Now butt out and stop making a total fool of yourself.

What the hell are you on about. Actually, I might just take your advice and fuck off, seeing that debating in this forum is useless because of people like you. Probably not loved by daddy as a child, so spend eternity hidden behind a screen and post nothing but hateful and racist messages. Have fun winning the internet war

[Malapapa]

BUTCHERS OF UNARMED CIVILIANS....

Unlike the noble hellenic force who offered cheese and flowers to every town they ever conquered. People are either diluted, indoctrinated or just ignorant

And the vast majority were also innocent civilian victims. Now butt out and stop making a total fool of yourself.

What the hell are you on about.

As though a fuckwit like you could ever work it out.

Actually, I might just take your advice and fuck off, seeing that debating in this forum is useless because of people like you. Probably not loved by daddy as a child, so spend eternity hidden behind a screen and post nothing but hateful and racist messages. Have fun winning the internet war

Off you go... and take your delusions of adequacy with you.

[Nikitas]

"It is a historical fact that before the
Island entered under the Ottoman rule in 1571, there existed no
influential Greek community in the Island. The Island was then under
the Venecian rule and the Catholic leadership kept under severe
suppression the Greek population which was sparsely scattered on the
Island. After 1571, the Ottomans allowed the construction of new
Orthodox Churches at every settlement and granted autonomy to the Greek
Archbishopship. It is extremely sad that this very Archbishop, in years
to come, professed to its followers the genocide of the Island's Turks."

You are full of shit for the following reasons which you can easily check on the net or in books.

1- Venice was host to a large Greek community in itself, so it would be unlikely to be repressing the Greeks in its colonial possessions.

2- The largest repository of Greek writing and works of art during Ottoman times was Venice.

3- The vitality of the Greek community of Venice is corroborated by the naming of the largest canal of Venice "Canal di Greci" canal of the Greeks.

4- One of the largest Greek Orthodox cathedrals in the world is Saint Demetrios in..... Venice.

5- The Greek Orthodox church in Cyprus never lost its status under Venetian rule nor was it forced to abandon the Greek language.

6- Crete was also under Venetian rule at the time, and it is indicative of the nature of the Venetian aristocracy that many of them did not speak Italian and wrote literary works in Greek. The poet Vincenzo Cornaro when presenting his great poem Erotocritos to the Venetian academy had to have an interpreter because he spoke no Italian.

7- The attitude off the Ottomans to the church is indicated by the preventive execution of all of the Greek Orthodox ranking priests in 1821 to prevent a revolt in Cyprus, and interestingly a Cypriot bishop serving in Dimitsana in Greece was also hanged at the same time presumably because he was Cypriot!

8- Greeks were not the only victims of the Ottomans. The repression in Bulgaria in 1877 was so cruel that a special session of the British parliament empowered the prime minister to declare war if necessary to stop the slaughter.

INSAN YOU TALK CRAP. CHECK IT OUT AND COME BACK TO US WITH FACTS.

[Murataga]

"It is a historical fact that before the
Island entered under the Ottoman rule in 1571, there existed no
influential Greek community in the Island. The Island was then under
the Venecian rule and the Catholic leadership kept under severe
suppression the Greek population which was sparsely scattered on the
Island. After 1571, the Ottomans allowed the construction of new
Orthodox Churches at every settlement and granted autonomy to the Greek
Archbishopship. It is extremely sad that this very Archbishop, in years
to come, professed to its followers the genocide of the Island's Turks."

You are full of shit for the following reasons which you can easily check on the net or in books.

1- Venice was host to a large Greek community in itself, so it would be unlikely to be repressing the Greeks in its colonial possessions.

2- The largest repository of Greek writing and works of art during Ottoman times was Venice.

3- The vitality of the Greek community of Venice is corroborated by the naming of the largest canal of Venice "Canal di Greci" canal of the Greeks.

4- One of the largest Greek Orthodox cathedrals in the world is Saint Demetrios in..... Venice.

5- The Greek Orthodox church in Cyprus never lost its status under Venetian rule nor was it forced to abandon the Greek language.

6- Crete was also under Venetian rule at the time, and it is indicative of the nature of the Venetian aristocracy that many of them did not speak Italian and wrote literary works in Greek. The poet Vincenzo Cornaro when presenting his great poem Erotocritos to the Venetian academy had to have an interpreter because he spoke no Italian.

7- The attitude off the Ottomans to the church is indicated by the preventive execution of all of the Greek Orthodox ranking priests in 1821 to prevent a revolt in Cyprus, and interestingly a Cypriot bishop serving in Dimitsana in Greece was also hanged at the same time presumably because he was Cypriot!

8- Greeks were not the only victims of the Ottomans. The repression in Bulgaria in 1877 was so cruel that a special session of the British parliament empowered the prime minister to declare war if necessary to stop the slaughter.

INSAN YOU TALK CRAP. CHECK IT OUT AND COME BACK TO US WITH FACTS.

From The Rise and Fall of the Cyprus Republic by Kyriacos C. Markides (Yale University Press):

“The Turkish Cypriot conquest can be thought of as a turning point in the evolution of Cypriot society. Its effects were tantamount to a true revolution, but a revolution imposed from the outside. The conquest brought about three fundamental changes in the Cypriot social structure whose effects are still deeply felt: (1) the destruction of European feudalism (mainly by Franks and Venetians) (2) the restoration of the Greek Orthodox church to its former position of dominance, and (3) the settlement on Cyprus of a sizable Turkish minority.

The Turks once they conquered Cyprus, either killed or expelled the European nobles. The feudal system was abolished and land was distributed to the former serfs, who were Orthodox Christians, and to the newly arrived Muslim settlers. The Turkish conquest, furthermore, created ethnic heterogeneity. Turkish migrants settled in Cyprus, and gradually a sizeable Turkish community was formed, eventually composing 18 percent of the total population.

Last, and the most significant, the Turkish conquest restored the Greek Orthodox church to its former princely status and endowed it with unprecedented secular and spiritual powers. The authority vacuum created by the abolition of the aristocratic order was filled by the church, which became the most central institution in Greek Cypriot society. The Turks recognized only Orthodoxy as the official non-Muslim religion of the island, and they persecuted the Catholics. In short, the Turks reversed the situation that existed under feudalism. In addition, the sultan vested the church with special administrative privileges, such as collecting state taxes and officially representing the Orthodox Greek s in Istanbul. The archbishop was elevated to the status of Ethnarc, national leader or political spokesman for the Greek population. Consequently, the church of Cyprus became under Turkish rule the most authoritative and powerful institution on the island. It has been said that during the eighteenth century the archbishop’s political authority was almost equal, if not superior, that of the Turkish Governor (Cobham, 1908)”

Claude D. Cobham, Exerpta Cypria (Cambridge, Eng.: Cambridge University Press, 1908), pp. 458-59

In this day and age you are still behind in mentality from what the Ottomans were five centuries ago.

[SKI-preo]

1570 20,000 christians in Cyprus were killed, 1571 20,000 more.