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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby bill cobbett » Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:30 pm

B25 wrote:BC, please pack it in, you are making me physically sick man.
:twisted:


:D .... plastic bag?


B25 being sick ..... >>>>>> :P
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Postby B25 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:35 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
B25 wrote:BC, please pack it in, you are making me physically sick man.
:twisted:


:D .... plastic bag? Your pocket will do :lol:


B25 being sick ..... >>>>>> :P I'll save it for when we meet and then have a deep pocket :lol:


seriously, I can't stomach it, after all they have done to us, we still feed, cloth and educate them and they spit in our faces. I feel really sick now.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:40 pm

B25 wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
B25 wrote:BC, please pack it in, you are making me physically sick man.
:twisted:


:D .... plastic bag? Your pocket will do :lol:


B25 being sick ..... >>>>>> :P I'll save it for when we meet and then have a deep pocket :lol:


seriously, I can't stomach it, after all they have done to us, we still feed, cloth and educate them and they spit in our faces. I feel really sick now.


That should keep you quiet for a bit. Thank god for little mercies. You cant claim to be representative of the whole island and not expect to carry out 'normal' functions of caring for Cypriots now can you?

Please dont answer - stay in the sick room. :lol:
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Postby Malapapa » Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:43 pm

These examples are enlightening, bill and will really stick in the craw of the likes of VP et al. A measure of how civilised a nation is, is how well it treats its underprivileged minorities, however troublesome and unworthy. What you have to realise B25, is these gestures are a small price to pay for being acknowledged as having 100% sovereignty over the whole island.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:52 pm

Doesn't Turkey just love us? Feeding, clothing and "educating" (impossible?) her unworthy spawns!

I reckon Cyprus should be exempt from any other acts of charity and obligations to asylum seekers.

We have more than any fair lot for any wealthy EU country!
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:08 pm

B25 wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
B25 wrote:BC, please pack it in, you are making me physically sick man.
:twisted:


:D .... plastic bag? Your pocket will do :lol:


B25 being sick ..... >>>>>> :P I'll save it for when we meet and then have a deep pocket :lol:


seriously, I can't stomach it, after all they have done to us, we still feed, cloth and educate them and they spit in our faces. I feel really sick now.


To be honest mate, don't know what to think, bend with the wind on this one, sometimes agreeing with you and sometimes seeing mala's point of view.

Guess the important thing is to explode the myths.

... and the figures have quoted today are out of date... increased significantly in more recent years... see GR's link page 1 which believe contains more up to date figures.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:07 pm

Here's a picky of a car-hire poster...

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... and here's a para from the last EU report on the implementation of the Green Line Regulations...

No major incidents were reported as regards the daily crossing of people at the check points. As well as this, following agreement in one of the technical committees set up by the leaders of the two communities on 21 March 2008 (Committee on economic and commercial matters), cars rented in the northern part of Cyprus can now enter the government-controlled areas through the Line.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:19 pm

We all like these nice CY potatoes don't we? ...

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Now what does the EU report on the Green Line Regulations say...

Well in reply to past complaints of delays the EU say this...

In the past, the Commission had received complaints from Turkish Cypriot traders regarding delays in clearing of goods crossing the Line including particularly consignments of potatoes. Following measures implemented by the authorities of the Republic of Cyprus, these complaints have been dealt with.

(So that...)

Starting in September 2007, more than 2878 tons of potatoes, worth more than €1,318,480, destined (only) for consumption in the government-controlled areas, successfully crossed the Line without major obstacles. The SBA Administration has found a practical arrangement with the Republic of Cyprus authorities to carry out the required phytosanitary checks. This seems to work satisfactorily.

(But there have been irregularites...)

Irregularities
Since May 2007, ten cases of irregularities have been reported in which the goods were not allowed to cross the Line. Reasons for non-allowance included the supplier refusing to pay the relevant duties, products not according to marking requirements, vegetables found unfit for human consumption and the non-production of the obligatory accompanying documents.
Beside these irregularities directly at the Line, phytosanitary experts appointed by the Commission detected forged plant passports for potato seeds of EU origin. All potatoes grown from these potato seeds were subsequently banned from trade in order to protect European consumers.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:25 pm

Ahem....

Business people at a meeting...

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The last EU report says this on cross-community co-operation in relation to the Green Line Regulations...

Positive developments concerning movement of goods
During the reporting period, some positive developments need to be noted which gradually lifted some barriers which previously used to limit trade across the Line. These developments include:

Continued 'Round Table Meetings' of the three chambers (Cyprus Chamber of Commerce and Industry, CCCI, TCCoC, and Cyprus Turkish Chamber of Industry, CTCI).

• The 'Cyprus Producer Network', a network of TC and GC producers, established with the aim of increasing cooperation and collaboration and providing technical assistance, training and advice to ease the constraints to Green Line trade, carried out seminars on both sides of the Line, initiated a bi-communal survey, is about to launch an interactive website and carried out business-to-business meetings in various product sectors. This project, which is funded by UNDP-ACT (US funded), also aims at improving cooperation and collaboration between the participating chambers (CTCI, TCCoC and CCCI).
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:43 pm

Dum..dee...dum...dee...dum...

This as all will guess is the crossing at Ledras...

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...and these are the figures for the number of crossings from the last EU report on the Green Line Regs...

Crossing at official crossing points
The Regulation provides for a stable legal framework for the free movement of Cypriots, other EU citizens and third country nationals who cross the Line at the crossing points. According to the available data, 633,163 (last year: 788,823) Greek Cypriots crossed from the government-controlled areas to the northern part of Cyprus and 1,162,739 (last year: 1,348,215) Turkish Cypriots crossed from the northern part of Cyprus to the government- controlled areas during the reporting period.5 Monitoring of the impact of the amendment to the Republic of Cyprus Penal Code, penalising any illegal use of property (referred to in last year's Green Line Report), on the crossings of Turkish Cypriots revealed that the number of crossings has again stabilised.



As an aside;... this bit refers to restrictions that the RoC can apply..

CROSSINGOFPERSONS
According to Art 2 of the Green Line Regulation the Republic of Cyprus “shall carry out checks on all persons crossing the line with the aim to combat illegal immigration of third country nationals and to detect and prevent any threat to public security and public policy. Such checks shall also be carried out on vehicles and objects in the possession of persons crossing the [Green] Line” whereas Art 3 states that "effective surveillance shall be carried out by the Republic of Cyprus all along the Line, in such a way as to discourage people from circumventing checks at the crossing points.
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