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The Myths of Isolation and Embargo

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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:34 am

This whole Ottoman shit is a miserably failed experiment, and you just gotta know when to quit!

You just can’t fit a square peg in a round hole!
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Postby Acikgoz » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:39 am

Oh Goebbels, what about animal produce, fish etc? Is that free to move?
You want hypocracy and control, we can export potatoes to RoC, but we cannot export to EU countries because they demand photosanitary certificates (as does RoC from other countries). So RoC is happy with our produce, whose citizens are European, yet all other Europeans cannot import from us because RoC doesn't authorise our quality control. Is that what they call an embargo?
Roll up roll up for your next b**** slap.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:45 am

Acikgoz wrote:Oh Goebbels, what about animal produce, fish etc? Is that free to move?
You want hypocracy and control, we can export potatoes to RoC, but we cannot export to EU countries because they demand photosanitary certificates (as does RoC from other countries). So RoC is happy with our produce, whose citizens are European, yet all other Europeans cannot import from us because RoC doesn't authorise our quality control. Is that what they call an embargo?
Roll up roll up for your next b**** slap.

The plain facts of Cyprus:

1. The RoC is our constitution.
2. Christofias, is the current democratically elected president.
3. The Cypriot territory expands to all four corners of the island.
4. Cypriots are overwhelmingly of Christian faith who speak a form of Greek.
5. Cypriots have a history of at least 10,000 years on the island starting with the first known civilization the Choirokitians at around 8,000BC!


These are the plain facts of Cyprus, that’s how it is!

So, if you can’t accept any of the above or somehow cannot fit into it all then tough titties, you don’t belong here!
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Postby Acikgoz » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:48 am

You answered it all in your 1st point. RoC is your constitution not ours. The rest just leads onfrom there.
We have our own constitution which we had to establish once you kicked us out of OUR CONSTITUTION.
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Postby apc2010 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:51 am

kicked out or walked out ????
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Postby CopperLine » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:52 am

bill cobbett wrote:You can aways tell when garagoz acigoz is getting desperate ... starts refering to Big Mak and usurp.

Anyway let's not forget The Increasing Trade brought about by the Green Line Regulations...



4. CROSSINGOFGOODS
4.1. Value of trade
Pursuant to Art 8 of the Commission Regulation (EC) 1480/200411, the Turkish Cypriot Chamber of Commerce (hereafter: TCCoC) reported on a monthly basis on the type, volume and value of goods for which it has issued accompanying documents.
The authorities of the Republic of Cyprus also communicated the type, volume and value of goods that have crossed the Line in monthly reports to the Commission. Those reports included goods that entered the government-controlled areas through the crossing points of Pergamos and Strovilia, which are under the authority of the SBA Administration.
According to reports from the TCCoC, the total value of goods for which accompanying documents were issued in the reporting period amounted to €5,471,461 whereas the value of goods actually traded was about €4,473,408.12
In comparison to the previous reporting period, figures show again an increase in the total value of goods crossing the Line. According to the reports provided by the authorities of the Republic of Cyprus, the total trade value of goods which actually crossed the Line increased by almost a third to €4,473,408, compared to € 3,380,805 in the previous reporting period. It should be noted, though, that trade in potatoes accounted for almost 30% of the overall trade value and is the main component of the increase in Green Line trade.13
In January 2008, goods worth more than € 700.000 crossed the Line. This was the highest level recorded since the GLR came into force. The main component was Turkish Cypriot potatoes, worth about € 350,000.
Although not covered by the scope of the GLR, it may be noted that trade from the government-controlled areas to the northern part of Cyprus amounted to a value of € 1,015,340 in the reporting period (thereof € 626,533 between February and April 2008) compared to € 1,027,688 in the previous one according to figures from the Cyprus Chamber
11 12 13
Commission Regulation (EC) No 1480/2004 of 10 August 2004, OJ L 272, 20.8.2004, p. 3. See Annexes I, II and III See section 4.4. below
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of Commerce and Industry. Trade from the government-controlled areas to the northern part of Cyprus therefore remained about the same and amounts to less than a quarter of the trade in the opposite direction.14
The Turkish Cypriot community applies a trade system, which, in principle, "mirrors" the restrictions of the Green Line Regulation. It, for instance, mirrors Art 6 (1) GLR in the sense that goods contained in the personal luggage of persons crossing the Line from the government-controlled areas to the northern part of Cyprus are exempt from 'turnover tax', 'excise duty' and 'other duties', provided these goods have no commercial character and their total value does not exceed € 135. This regime is not always consistently applied. In the autumn of 2007, for instance, Turkish Cypriots shopping in the government-controlled areas were facing major problems in bringing back their shopping items across the Line and Turkish Cypriot potato growers were largely banned altogether from bringing back potato seeds bought from Greek Cypriot traders.

Yep as above showing that the claims of Economic Isolations and Embargoes are a loada pollocks.

Interesting... the last couple of sentences give two examples of how the Illegal Regime place restrictions on the movement of goods.


Err .... Bill ... if trade was open in the first place then there would be no need for the GLR. That trade is not open is, first, a deliberate effect of RoC policy to isolate and embargo the TRNC. And second, the isolation and embargo whilst not in the interests of most TCs is in fact in the interests of the ultra-nationalist TCs and the Turkish occupation (since isolation simply pushes the north ever more into the stranglehold of nationalist Turkey.

Pointing out the 'benefits' of the GLR which can be measured in a few millions of Euros is nothing compared with the economic grip that Turkey has on the north as a direct result of isolation and embargo. This is a spectacular own goal by successive governments of the RoC.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:53 am

Acikgoz wrote:You answered it all in your 1st point. RoC is your constitution not ours. The rest just leads onfrom there.
We have our own constitution which we had to establish once you kicked us out of OUR CONSTITUTION.

Look, I don’t wanna hear your crying game anymore… we’re fed up with it!

The bottom line is that you’re INCOMPATIBLE with Cyprus and that's all that matters.
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Postby Acikgoz » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:54 am

apd, please check previous posts, no interest in teaching the same histroy again this late at night.
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Postby apc2010 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:59 am

Acikgoz wrote:apd, please check previous posts, no interest in teaching the same histroy again this late at night.


is apd my older brother ?
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Postby Acikgoz » Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:04 am

:) oops, like I said it's getting late
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