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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:09 am

Acikgoz wrote:...how I believe a safe and successful future for Cyprus should come about.

Ottoman remnants and success can never be used in the same line! :roll:
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:11 am

Acikgoz wrote:Oh Malapapa, those words of Makarios belong in the 60s. Evolve a little and stop telling me to leave my island if I don't agree with you on how I believe a safe and successful future for Cyprus should come about.


You don't have to go to Turkey if you don't want to.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:13 am

Malapapa wrote:You don't have to go to Turkey if you don't want to.

If he wants to find "success" Turkey is the closest he'll ever get to it; in Cyprus they’re incompatible.
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Postby Acikgoz » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:17 am

GR It is you that is incompatible with a unified Cyprus.
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:18 am

Get Real! wrote:
Malapapa wrote:You don't have to go to Turkey if you don't want to.

If he wants to find "success" Turkey is the closest he'll ever get to it; in Cyprus they’re incompatible.


Yes but he doesn't have to go to Turkey if he doesn't want to. He can go somewhere else and try and establish a 'Turkish Republic'. See how long the embargoes will last there.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:21 am

Acikgoz wrote:GR It is you that is incompatible with a unified Cyprus.

Problem is I don't believe in a "unified" Cyprus but in a LIBERATED Cyprus.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:23 am

Malapapa wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Malapapa wrote:You don't have to go to Turkey if you don't want to.

If he wants to find "success" Turkey is the closest he'll ever get to it; in Cyprus they’re incompatible.


Yes but he doesn't have to go to Turkey if he doesn't want to. He can go somewhere else and try and establish a 'Turkish Republic'. See how long the embargoes will last there.

Nah, after many years of debates I think it’s in everyone’s interests that they return to their roots via a UN-led repatriation program. To each his own country!
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Postby Acikgoz » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:24 am

If Makarios didn't usurp our constitution and begin the ethnic cleansing and apartheid on OUR ISLAND then we wouldn't have had to.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:27 am

Acikgoz wrote:If Makarios didn't usurp our constitution and begin the ethnic cleansing and apartheid on OUR ISLAND then we wouldn't have had to.

And if your forefathers hadn't come here UNINVITED none of the rest of the 400+ year shit would’ve happened, so it's high time your people packed it in and returned home if they have any dignity left.
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:31 am

You can aways tell when garagoz acigoz is getting desperate ... starts refering to Big Mak and usurp.

Anyway let's not forget The Increasing Trade brought about by the Green Line Regulations...



4. CROSSINGOFGOODS
4.1. Value of trade
Pursuant to Art 8 of the Commission Regulation (EC) 1480/200411, the Turkish Cypriot Chamber of Commerce (hereafter: TCCoC) reported on a monthly basis on the type, volume and value of goods for which it has issued accompanying documents.
The authorities of the Republic of Cyprus also communicated the type, volume and value of goods that have crossed the Line in monthly reports to the Commission. Those reports included goods that entered the government-controlled areas through the crossing points of Pergamos and Strovilia, which are under the authority of the SBA Administration.
According to reports from the TCCoC, the total value of goods for which accompanying documents were issued in the reporting period amounted to €5,471,461 whereas the value of goods actually traded was about €4,473,408.12
In comparison to the previous reporting period, figures show again an increase in the total value of goods crossing the Line. According to the reports provided by the authorities of the Republic of Cyprus, the total trade value of goods which actually crossed the Line increased by almost a third to €4,473,408, compared to € 3,380,805 in the previous reporting period. It should be noted, though, that trade in potatoes accounted for almost 30% of the overall trade value and is the main component of the increase in Green Line trade.13
In January 2008, goods worth more than € 700.000 crossed the Line. This was the highest level recorded since the GLR came into force. The main component was Turkish Cypriot potatoes, worth about € 350,000.
Although not covered by the scope of the GLR, it may be noted that trade from the government-controlled areas to the northern part of Cyprus amounted to a value of € 1,015,340 in the reporting period (thereof € 626,533 between February and April 2008) compared to € 1,027,688 in the previous one according to figures from the Cyprus Chamber
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Commission Regulation (EC) No 1480/2004 of 10 August 2004, OJ L 272, 20.8.2004, p. 3. See Annexes I, II and III See section 4.4. below
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of Commerce and Industry. Trade from the government-controlled areas to the northern part of Cyprus therefore remained about the same and amounts to less than a quarter of the trade in the opposite direction.14
The Turkish Cypriot community applies a trade system, which, in principle, "mirrors" the restrictions of the Green Line Regulation. It, for instance, mirrors Art 6 (1) GLR in the sense that goods contained in the personal luggage of persons crossing the Line from the government-controlled areas to the northern part of Cyprus are exempt from 'turnover tax', 'excise duty' and 'other duties', provided these goods have no commercial character and their total value does not exceed € 135. This regime is not always consistently applied. In the autumn of 2007, for instance, Turkish Cypriots shopping in the government-controlled areas were facing major problems in bringing back their shopping items across the Line and Turkish Cypriot potato growers were largely banned altogether from bringing back potato seeds bought from Greek Cypriot traders.

Yep as above showing that the claims of Economic Isolations and Embargoes are a loada pollocks.

Interesting... the last couple of sentences give two examples of how the Illegal Regime place restrictions on the movement of goods.
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