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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:18 pm

Humanists claims we enjoy a free Cyprus can he kind clarify what hes refering to.
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Postby humanist » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:45 pm

I am referring to the fact that you can move around Cyprus freely, you can buy a home anywhere you like, you can have your home back if you want it (yes with a condition that you reside in the free areas for 6 months ... that's more than any GC is is getting at the moment). You can work in the free areas and make a good salary whilst you enjoy the comforts of another persons home, you can have a RoC passport the legal passport that you need to travel anywhere in the world including Europe, you can receive pensions if you are entitled to it and you can use health care services.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:05 am

"Perhaps ...."

.... the TCs are human? :?

Nope!

They have been granted too much for free, by Turkey! Why should they give anything up for the sake of morality? They are scum!
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Postby DT. » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:32 am

Bananiot wrote:Humanist. now that you have mentioned the EU, you might like to know that November may prove to be a very critical month for the RoC. The GS of the EU will, it seems, lay the blame of failure to find solution on our side and the EU will move, there is no doubt about this, towards lifting the embargo, or so called embargo, call it whatever you like. Unfortunately, in Brussels they do not read the patriotic writings in the forum and since the only signals they get is for fast solution, proposed by Turkey and no time frames, proposed by us, they have already made their minds up about who the weak link is. There is also this small business about Turkey being more important to EU than little wee Cyprus, but we have lost any credibility we may have had when in a split of a second we switched allegiance regarding the Palestinian issue because "it was to our national interests to support Israel" as it was described by Piratis and a few others. Now my friend, let's have no quarrels when the "others" look after their own interests.


Firstly Bananiot what the hell is the GS of the EU? There will it seems be a conference held for the Cyprob now whether it is international or just the parties that assume they are involved depends on how worse the President's decision making become till then. (for the life of me I still can't seem to understand what an international conference will accomplish, will they all go round and give their 2 cents on whether the police station in Avgorou will have Cypriot, Turkish or Greek flags?)

Anyway, your eagerness to throw in some bitterness from the Israeli fiasco contradicts so many points you raise in your post Bananiot that I don't know where to start from. Cyprus will be punished "you say" for supporting Israel against the Palestinians (huh?) and Turkey will be rewarded for breaking ties with the USA's strongest ally in the region and signing a nuclear deal with Iran and Brazil...??

:?

Now, why don't you try that whole post again before the jet lag kicks in?
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:18 am

DT. wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Humanist. now that you have mentioned the EU, you might like to know that November may prove to be a very critical month for the RoC. The GS of the EU will, it seems, lay the blame of failure to find solution on our side and the EU will move, there is no doubt about this, towards lifting the embargo, or so called embargo, call it whatever you like. Unfortunately, in Brussels they do not read the patriotic writings in the forum and since the only signals they get is for fast solution, proposed by Turkey and no time frames, proposed by us, they have already made their minds up about who the weak link is. There is also this small business about Turkey being more important to EU than little wee Cyprus, but we have lost any credibility we may have had when in a split of a second we switched allegiance regarding the Palestinian issue because "it was to our national interests to support Israel" as it was described by Piratis and a few others. Now my friend, let's have no quarrels when the "others" look after their own interests.


Firstly Bananiot what the hell is the GS of the EU? There will it seems be a conference held for the Cyprob now whether it is international or just the parties that assume they are involved depends on how worse the President's decision making become till then. (for the life of me I still can't seem to understand what an international conference will accomplish, will they all go round and give their 2 cents on whether the police station in Avgorou will have Cypriot, Turkish or Greek flags?)

Anyway, your eagerness to throw in some bitterness from the Israeli fiasco contradicts so many points you raise in your post Bananiot that I don't know where to start from. Cyprus will be punished "you say" for supporting Israel against the Palestinians (huh?) and Turkey will be rewarded for breaking ties with the USA's strongest ally in the region and signing a nuclear deal with Iran and Brazil...??

:?

Now, why don't you try that whole post again before the jet lag kicks in?


They would finish us off, if we did not cooperate with Israeli demands!

bananiot is just being silly!
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Postby humanist » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:15 am

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Nothing stopping you.


Are you sure about that??? because I was given a very logical explanation from a third party ...... whilst I disagree with his actions about living in the 'trnc' his responses sounded genuine

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Postby Bananiot » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:21 pm

Very convenient to get hapless Christofias to shoulder the blame DT. The fact of the matter is that November is very close and this is THE time limit set by the international community for solution, for just about everybody is sick-fed up with us. After all, the world has more pressing issues to address than the Cyprus issue, which apparently suits just about every body in Cyprus, especially the politicians who get to keep their jobs because of the perpetuation of the problem.

I am sorry you did not get my point regarding Israel. I made it before in another thread, when we were discussing the "principled stand" certain countries should exhibit on the Cyprus issue. I made it before to answer to Piratis constant calls for moral principles etc, which we uphold, unlike the rest of the corrupt people of the world. I pointed out that at one instance, Piratis forgot the plight of the Palestinian people and hoisted the Israeli flag, because he thought, the miserable sod, that Israel was about to wipe Turkey off the map. He came out with an "impressive" argument then that we should firstly look after our own interests and then worry about others but of course he has now instantly wiped out his rhetoric that we endured since day one of this forum. He canceled out himself and I am sure many other forumers have taken notice of this too.

The GS of the UN is your answer to the first question you raised but you know how the printers daemon meddles with everything. And I was not referring to an international conference either.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:08 pm

humanist wrote:VP
Nothing stopping you.


Are you sure about that??? because I was given a very logical explanation from a third party ...... whilst I disagree with his actions about living in the 'trnc' his responses sounded genuine

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We have GCs who reside in the TRNC even ones who rent homes here.
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Postby humanist » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:32 pm

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We have GCs who reside in the TRNC even ones who rent homes here.


Do they have same rights as TC's can they enter politics? Are they not under suspicion by the military regime? Do you mean the enclaved people?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:41 pm

humanist wrote:VP
We have GCs who reside in the TRNC even ones who rent homes here.


Do they have same rights as TC's can they enter politics? Are they not under suspicion by the military regime? Do you mean the enclaved people?


Yes if they become citizens of the TRNC.
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