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Womanish Cypriot Cypriot leftists stop military excercise

Postby Nikephoros » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:00 am

Note that also there have been lots of media articles in the past about the mothers of conscripts serving in National Guard putting pressure on the politicians and officers to make military service into a soft summer camp experience for their momma's boys. These people are a disgrace, they are like the anti-Cretans of the Greek world and the anti-Israelis of the region. But again you don't need much when your goals as a society is to make stupid dreams about the international community fighting your battles for you and whining after every disaster: "where was Greece, they betrayed us," while doing nothing themselves and accepting no self-blame.

So why do they even need a military force with their mentality, attitude and bow down manner of handling Turks? Since the Annan plan chimera and their entrance to the EU, they have ramped down their defense spending to levels where you would think they are not living under occupation in cease-fire conditions, with their border to the TRNC sandjak being an internationally patrolled and UN monitored buffer zone.

Jacqueline Agathocleous wrote:Cyprus Mail: Angry residents call for end to exercises
By Jacqueline Agathocleous Published on July 15, 2010

TEMPERS flared at the National Guard’s (NG) Kalo Chorio firing range in Larnaca yesterday, after dozens of nearby residents demanded an end to military exercises until after the summer.

The residents’ plea follows a series of incidents and fires caused by stray shells.

The angry mob – comprising of around 100 residents from the villages Pyrga, Kalo Chorio, Agia Anna and Klavdia - successfully interrupted a military exercise that began on Tuesday and was meant to wrap up today.

The demonstration started off peacefully at a little after 4pm, when the affected communities’ leaders and a number of residents arrived at the firing range and sought to speak to an NG officer over the issue. While the residents’ spokesmen were explaining their views to the on-duty officers, a shot was fired from a nearby tank, provoking heated reactions from the residents.

The residents then stormed onto the range in a bid to prevent the exercise from being carried out.

The residents started nearing the NG camp’s watchtower, resulting in surrounding conscripts having to take their positions to avert the residents from going any further.

After spirits had calmed, the residents received assurances from the NG officers that the specific military exercise would not continue.

One resident said: “The officer in charge of the exercise, instead of waiting for orders to speak to us, he started the tanks’ shooting exercise while there were people there. I think this is unacceptable; it shows how much they respect us and how little they take us into consideration.”

“They need to understand the residents’ concerns,” another added. “The constant damages from fires; bullets that fall in the area; these are all reasons why we are asking for at least the summer period to interrupt the exercises.”

He continued, “You can’t have a commander here ordering shooting exercises, with 100 to 200 people standing behind him. This is inexcusable. And it is prohibited globally; it isn’t just us saying it.”

The residents’ frustration follows a series of incidents whereby stray shells from military exercises landed in residential areas, peaking with a shell that led to a fire that threatened the historic Stavrovouni monastery last month.

In retaliation, Defence Minister Costas Papacostas said the NG’s main firing range would remain in operation, adding: “If we decided to shut down the (Kalo Chorio) firing range, as demanded by residents, then we have to decide if we are going to close down the National Guard.”

Former MEP and Pyrgos resident Marios Matsakis - who was arrested on Monday and released the following day on illegal entry charges, after storming the specific shooting range and damaging targets used for fire practice – was also present at yesterday’s protest.

He said his presence was not of an official nature.


Who expects different behavior from this leftist Greek Cypriot garbage?

This is how they want their people to handle Turks:
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And afterwards they protest like pansies:
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Here is the attitude that makes Israelis so tough even in the face of the limitless hordes of Mahomet seeking to destroy them:
Daniel Ben-Ami wrote:Spiked-online: Dubai: the warrior-victims strike again?
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Israel is what could be called a warrior-victim state. On the one hand, it is a highly militarised society in which the army plays a central role. On the other hand, it is a state that is defined by victimhood - it sees itself as the only rational response to the age-old scourge of anti-Semitism. Although these two elements coexist in Israeli society they are often in tension with one another. Indeed, the importance attached to the assassination of enemies - a key characteristic of contemporary Israel - brings together the warrior and victim elements in a lethal form.

The warrior character of Israeli society emerged as a reaction to the experience of anti-Semitism in Europe. Early Zionist leaders, from the late nineteenth century onwards, consciously set out to create a class of Jews who were the opposite of the Jews of the shtetl (the traditional Eastern European Jewish ghetto). Whereas the traditional Jews of the diaspora were frail, the New Jews were to be physically strong. Traditional Jews were intellectual, whereas New Jews engaged in manual and agricultural labour. Shtetl Jews were passive, whereas New Jews were willing to fight to defend themselves.

Terms used included the New Jews or the New Hebrews. Max Nordau, one of the early Zionist leaders, called for the development of ‘Muscle Judaism’. Jews who were born in Israel were known as sabras, after the desert cactus pear, as they were supposedly prickly on the outside but tender inside.

Such warrior values were institutionalised in underground military organisations before the foundation of the Israeli state in 1948 and in its army afterwards. The army ensured that Israelis were trained to be warriors who would fight against all odds, and if necessary kill, to ensure their survival. And since the army had such a central place in Israeli society, its ethos permeated the whole of the country.


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However, the creation of a warrior Israel was not just a problem for the Palestinians. It is less widely known that Holocaust survivors suffered significant stigma during Israel’s early years. They were seen as having passively accepted their fate rather than fighting in accordance with the ideology of the New Hebrew. They were even derided as sabon (soap) by some native-born Israelis. It is hard to think of a more derogatory term for Holocaust survivors.

As Klein Halevi, an Israeli writer, notes: ‘When the survivors first arrived, they were received with indifference, even hostility. Survivors were seen as the antithesis of Zionism’s “New Jew”, passive victims who threatened the daring spirit on which Israel’s birth and continued survival depended, as if they carried a contagious weakness. Survivors - whom sabras derisively nicknamed sabon, soap - were even accused of having been collaborators, their very survival suspect.’

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It seems to me Greeks have taken the opposite course compared to this New Fighting Jew mentality that Israel adopted, especially after the 1974 metapolitefsi spread of leftist aesthetics. In leftist mentality you must support the perceived underdog -- infact leftist Greeks often perceive Turks as poor under privileged underdogs hemmed in by an indifferent, criminal TSK General Staff and also maligned by Greek nationalist stereotypes. Thus it is the internationalist duty of the Greek left to rehabilitate the image of Turks and Turkey in Greek society. Most Greek leftists are too happy to carry out the sacred duty.

If you start to see in Greece and Cyprus leftists with known ancestry of fleeing Turks and known Neo-Ottoman views being called tourkospore in the press again, then you know the right path is being tread.
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Postby Acikgoz » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:39 am

What are you talking about? Cyprus ramped up its military spending!

Bottom line, what a waste of all our childrens lives. What is a man holding a rifle going to do against modern warfare machinery? Provide a target.

Consider how many incidents have occurred over the green line since 1974!

Finally Turkey is talking about a professional army. Conscripts are close to useless in modern warfare. This is actually another factor that causes Cypriots to seek opportunities elsewhere and to come back in later years when their sentence is likely to have been commuted.

Big picture, get smarter, earn more money, buy expensive dangerous toys so you don't have to stand in the mid-day sun waiting for an enemy that will splat you from miles away with their expensive toy.

You want to get harder when smart logic tells you to get softer.
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Postby Me Ed » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:54 am

Acikgoz wrote:What are you talking about? Cyprus ramped up its military spending!

Bottom line, what a waste of all our childrens lives. What is a man holding a rifle going to do against modern warfare machinery? Provide a target.

Consider how many incidents have occurred over the green line since 1974!

Finally Turkey is talking about a professional army. Conscripts are close to useless in modern warfare. This is actually another factor that causes Cypriots to seek opportunities elsewhere and to come back in later years when their sentence is likely to have been commuted.

Big picture, get smarter, earn more money, buy expensive dangerous toys so you don't have to stand in the mid-day sun waiting for an enemy that will splat you from miles away with their expensive toy.

You want to get harder when smart logic tells you to get softer.

The RoC attempted to do this with the purchase of S300 missiles, but the Turks shat themselves and started with their usual threats and lies.
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Postby AWE » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:02 pm

perhaps the RoC can buy these http://www.economist.com/node/16588695? ... d=16588695 from the UK to use against TR then.
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Postby Acikgoz » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:07 pm

Eddie, THE POINT IS THAT NATIONAL SERVICE IS A WASTE OF TIME FOR OUR CHILDREN.

What the GC side and TC side have would more than wipe out the entire population within a very short time. Do you get the principle meaning of the comment?

Probably not.
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Postby Me Ed » Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:39 pm

Perhaps, but the challenge for the RoC is how to defend itself when Turkey imposes embargos using its usual cowardly intimidation tactics and gun-boat diplomacy.
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Postby Schnauzer » Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:53 pm

Simmer down lads, the 'Diplomatic Knife' is the killer weapon we should all be in fear of, I firmly believe it to be presently clasped in the hands of the Israelis (courtesy of those who feign loyalty to our country) and we will not taste the steel of it until it is too late.

Whilst all attention is focused on the front door, the 'Rats' are a'nibbling at the back. IMHO :wink:
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