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[miltiades]

No this is the 36th Anniversary that the US/UK and Turkey Fucked up Cyprus, with the result that you scum are still here.

Wrong !
The bloody Greeks fucked it up mate by gicing Turkey the green light to invade.
The culprits were the Greeks .

[Kikapu]

Miltiades, when a thug tries to take over your house by forcing you to leave, then the police comes and gets rid of the thug, but the police then stays in your house instead of the thug.!

So what is the difference between the thug and the police in this situation.??

[Schnauzer]

No this is the 36th Anniversary that the US/UK and Turkey Fucked up Cyprus, with the result that you scum are still here.

Wrong !
The bloody Greeks fucked it up mate by gicing Turkey the green light to invade.
The culprits were the Greeks .

Surely one MUST consider the events PRIOR to the actual invasion in order to establish just who was responsible for it ?, again surely, it is now common knowledge that the whole historical event was a carefully worked out plan by both the US and the UK (with full knowledge of the Turks) precisely what the outcome was to be.

The groundwork for the invasion has been discussed on this forum for so long now, I am greatly surprised that the matter of responsibility is still being argued about, even more surprising is the fact that people generally are still willing to accept that the politicians are concerned about WHAT they think.

Quite laughable really.

[DT.]

2000 GC's killed during the coup?

Halil if you're trying to sweep the casualties that your troops murdered under the carpet of the coup you'd better try harder than that.

[miltiades]

No this is the 36th Anniversary that the US/UK and Turkey Fucked up Cyprus, with the result that you scum are still here.

Wrong !
The bloody Greeks fucked it up mate by gicing Turkey the green light to invade.
The culprits were the Greeks .

Surely one MUST consider the events PRIOR to the actual invasion in order to establish just who was responsible for it ?, again surely, it is now common knowledge that the whole historical event was a carefully worked out plan by both the US and the UK (with full knowledge of the Turks) precisely what the outcome was to be.

The groundwork for the invasion has been discussed on this forum for so long now, I am greatly surprised that the matter of responsibility is still being argued about, even more surprising is the fact that people generally are still willing to accept that the politicians are concerned about WHAT they think.

Quite laughable really.

I was around then , were you ?
The bastards responsible for giving Turkey the green light to invade were NONE other than the extremists led by the Greek offices stationed in Cyprus ( whom Makarios had demanded their withdrawal from Cyprus) , receiving orders from the wankers leading the junta . The Americans WERE not the party responsible. Kissinger stood by with his famous statement that stability is preferred to justice sometimes.
The extremists who were hell bent on ENOSIS were ultimately responsible egged on by the Junta.

[Nikitas]

Cyprus has three guarantor powers. One overturned the government, the other invaded and caused a bloodbath, the third actively encouraged the other two with their plans.

And we are talking about including ALL THREE of them in the new settlement! We must admit, we Cypriots are a special type of people! We never learn!

Halil, Clerides Knew in 1973, no kidding! Is there anyone who was in Cyprus before the coup for even a few hours, not even days, and not realised that something was going on? You did not have to be a diplomat or politician to realise that daily bombings, murder and sabotage were indicators of something going on!

[Schnauzer]

No this is the 36th Anniversary that the US/UK and Turkey Fucked up Cyprus, with the result that you scum are still here.

Wrong !
The bloody Greeks fucked it up mate by gicing Turkey the green light to invade.
The culprits were the Greeks .

Surely one MUST consider the events PRIOR to the actual invasion in order to establish just who was responsible for it ?, again surely, it is now common knowledge that the whole historical event was a carefully worked out plan by both the US and the UK (with full knowledge of the Turks) precisely what the outcome was to be.

The groundwork for the invasion has been discussed on this forum for so long now, I am greatly surprised that the matter of responsibility is still being argued about, even more surprising is the fact that people generally are still willing to accept that the politicians are concerned about WHAT they think.

Quite laughable really.

I was around then , were you ?
The bastards responsible for giving Turkey the green light to invade were NONE other than the extremists led by the Greek offices stationed in Cyprus ( whom Makarios had demanded their withdrawal from Cyprus) , receiving orders from the wankers leading the junta . The Americans WERE not the party responsible. Kissinger stood by with his famous statement that stability is preferred to justice sometimes.
The extremists who were hell bent on ENOSIS were ultimately responsible egged on by the Junta.

Your stand on the issues PRIOR to the invasion and your readiness to leap to the defence of any criticism of the US/UKs involvement of it's preparation, would appear to denote that you have some kind of sick affinity with the persecution and subjugation of lesser forces.

One would wonder what your attitude to the slaughter of innocents in other conflicts (instigated by those powers) would be, were you NOT so enamoured by their perceived (from your standpoint) might.

I have concluded (having read many of your contributions) that you are certainly an O.A.P. and I can assure you that my judgement is usually 'Spot On'.

I also lay traps.

[paliometoxo]

its time the south stop this thing every year to remind every one of what happened and the north to stop celebrate it and push the fireworks right at the line to provoke gcs both are not helping

[Nikitas]

Paliometoxo,

Agreed, this annual wallowing in suffering does not help, it should be replaced with events that stress resolve and reinforcement of legitimate claims.

As for the others, and their kitsch goose stepping parades, the PR effect is probably more negative than positive as you will see if you read foreign correspondents reports from the north. It is surprising that they have not yet realised the effect that goose stepping soldiers have on European and American viewers and the associations they invoke.

[Piratis]

The Greek Junta took the power in Greece with a coup and it was supported by the CIA. The actions of the junta do not represented the Greek people since the Greek people never elected them and the vast majority of the Greek people did not support the coupists and their actions. This is why the leaders of the Junta were jailed for life.

On the other hand the murderous actions of Turkey were committed by elected governments and had the support the Turkish population. Fascists like Ecevit not only were not jailed for their crimes but they are held as heroes. It seems that while the fascists are only a minority in Greece, they are the majority in Turkey.

Turkey used the coup as an excuse to put into action their plan of ethnic cleansing and partition that they had since 1957. The coup was not the reason for the invasion, just the cheap excuse that the Turks gave. There were many more coups in Turkey and nobody invaded Turkey as a result.

It is a ridiculous to claim that when there is a coup in a country this can be a reason for another country to invade, ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands of innocent people, and permanently occupy 1/3rd of the country.

And please don't tell me that Turkey supposedly invaded Cyprus to "protect the TCs". This is yet another cheap excuse, exactly the same excuse that Hitler gave to invade Czechoslovakia. The fact is that no TC was killed in 1974 until 20th of July when Turkey with the help of TCs invaded Cyprus.