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[DTA]

Oracle once again you offer nothing to this thread, the videos that you post do not in any way answr the question I asked.

[DTA]

Again thanks for taking the time growup. So there was an option to stay?

I only know this because I had a few members of my relatives that stayed there till 76. Don't know if they had the option of staying, or because of giving up living in the north.

ok cheers, it would be interesting to find out? But I understand if you don't want to ask... My dad is extremely loathed to talk about what happened to him and his fmily between 1963 and 68 when he left Cyprus.

[Jerry]

DTA, many TCs took refuge in the British bases. They were flown to Turkey and then taken to the north. As I understand it many GC civilians.just ran for their lives when they heard the Turkish soldiers were approaching. Thousands were trapped in Karpas in 1974 by 1976 only a few hundred remained. I happen to know that the GCs in Komi Kebir were told they had 24 hours to pack and leave or else they would be forcibly removed two years after the invasion.

Christpher Hitchens, in his book "Cyprus" describes in detail the broken promises made by Denktash that was suposed to allow the GCs to remain in the north.

[Oracle]

Oracle once again you offer nothing to this thread, the videos that you post do not in any way answr the question I asked.

That's because you think you know the answer to "your question" and are waiting to select what you want to support it!

[DTA]

DTA, many TCs took refuge in the British bases. They were flown to Turkey and then taken to the north. As I understand it many GC civilians.just ran for their lives when they heard the Turkish soldiers were approaching. Thousands were trapped in Karpas in 1974 by 1976 only a few hundred remained. I happen to know that the GCs in Komi Kebir were told they had 24 hours to pack and leave or else they would be forcibly removed two years after the invasion.

Christpher Hitchens, in his book "Cyprus" describes in detail the broken promises made by Denktash that was suposed to allow the GCs to remain in the north.

cheers I will look at the book, would you say that it is a balanced account?

[DTA]

Oracle once again you offer nothing to this thread, the videos that you post do not in any way answr the question I asked.

That's because you think you know the answer to "your question" and are waiting to select what you want to support it!

no it is because you are a myopic propagandist who I have never seen post anything of value.

I want to look beyond the propaganda which both sides reguarly spit and find the truth.

[bill cobbett]

Oracle once again you offer nothing to this thread, the videos that you post do not in any way answr the question I asked.

That's because you think you know the answer to "your question" and are waiting to select what you want to support it!

no it is because you are a myopic propagandist who I have never seen post anything of value.

I want to look beyond the propaganda which both sides reguarly spit and find the truth.

First port of call for you... look up the 1976 ECHR report on the Matter of Cyprus v Turkey ... Chapter 1 devoted to the matter of displacement. Reports on a range of experiences.

[Get Real!]

The population exchange in Cyprus please?

No such thing ever took place but Denktash and his cronies to justify their crimes against Cyprus, interpreted this state of emergency agreement as a “population exchange”!


The Third Vienna Agreement - August 1975

Communique issued after the third phase of the intercommunal talks in
Vienna. The third round of talks on Cyprus was held in Vienna from 31 July to 2
August 1975.

Preliminary discussions were held on the powers and functions of a federal
government on the basis of the original Greek Cypriot proposals submitted at
the first round, the Turkish Cypriot paper of the 21st of July and the more
comprehensive paper presented by Mr. Clerides at this meeting. Further
examination of this subject will continue in Nicosia with a view to a final
discussion, together with the other aspects relating to the solution of the
Cyprus problem, at the next round of talks. Mr. Denktash expressed his views
on the comprehensive paper submitted by Mr. Clerides and also on his own
proposals for a transitional joint government submitted by him on 18 July. Mr.
Clerides referred to his previous position in this regard.

A discussion of the geographical aspects of a future settlement of the Cyprus
problem took place. It was agreed that Mr. Clerides and Mr. Denktash would
have further private talks on this subject prior to the fourth round of the Cyprus
talks with a view to preparing the discussion of this matter which will take
place at that time.

In addition the following was agreed:

1. The Turkish Cypriots at present in the South of the Island will be allowed, if
they want to do so, to proceed North with their belongings under an organized
programme and with the assistance of UNFICYP.

2. Mr. Denktash reaffirmed, and it was agreed, that the Greek Cypriots at
present in the North of the Island are free to stay and that they will be given
every help to lead a normal life, including facilities for education and for the
practice of their religion, as well as medical care by their own doctors and
freedom of movement in the North.

3. The Greek Cypriots at present in the North who, at their own request and
without having been subjected to any kind of pressure, wish to move to the
South will be permitted to do so.

4. UNFICYP will have free and normal access to Greek Cypriot villages and
habitations in the North.

5. In connection with the implementation of the above agreement priority will
be given to the re-unification of families, which may also involve the transfer of
a number of Greek Cypriots, at present in the South, to the North.

The question of displaced persons was also re-examined.
Although both sides again affirmed that they were not knowingly holding
undeclared prisoners-of-war or other detainees, it was agreed mutually to
extend full facilities for searches in response to information given by either
side.

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/A ... 201975.pdf

[Get Real!]

Use this link instead...


http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/d ... enDocument

[denizaksulu]

The population exchange in Cyprus please?

No such thing ever took place but Denktash and his cronies to justify their crimes against Cyprus, interpreted this state of emergency agreement as a “population exchange”!


The Third Vienna Agreement - August 1975

Communique issued after the third phase of the intercommunal talks in
Vienna. The third round of talks on Cyprus was held in Vienna from 31 July to 2
August 1975.

Preliminary discussions were held on the powers and functions of a federal
government on the basis of the original Greek Cypriot proposals submitted at
the first round, the Turkish Cypriot paper of the 21st of July and the more
comprehensive paper presented by Mr. Clerides at this meeting. Further
examination of this subject will continue in Nicosia with a view to a final
discussion, together with the other aspects relating to the solution of the
Cyprus problem, at the next round of talks. Mr. Denktash expressed his views
on the comprehensive paper submitted by Mr. Clerides and also on his own
proposals for a transitional joint government submitted by him on 18 July. Mr.
Clerides referred to his previous position in this regard.

A discussion of the geographical aspects of a future settlement of the Cyprus
problem took place. It was agreed that Mr. Clerides and Mr. Denktash would
have further private talks on this subject prior to the fourth round of the Cyprus
talks with a view to preparing the discussion of this matter which will take
place at that time.

In addition the following was agreed:

1. The Turkish Cypriots at present in the South of the Island will be allowed, if
they want to do so, to proceed North with their belongings under an organized
programme and with the assistance of UNFICYP.

2. Mr. Denktash reaffirmed, and it was agreed, that the Greek Cypriots at
present in the North of the Island are free to stay and that they will be given
every help to lead a normal life, including facilities for education and for the
practice of their religion, as well as medical care by their own doctors and
freedom of movement in the North.

3. The Greek Cypriots at present in the North who, at their own request and
without having been subjected to any kind of pressure, wish to move to the
South will be permitted to do so.

4. UNFICYP will have free and normal access to Greek Cypriot villages and
habitations in the North.

5. In connection with the implementation of the above agreement priority will
be given to the re-unification of families, which may also involve the transfer of
a number of Greek Cypriots, at present in the South, to the North.

The question of displaced persons was also re-examined.
Although both sides again affirmed that they were not knowingly holding
undeclared prisoners-of-war or other detainees, it was agreed mutually to
extend full facilities for searches in response to information given by either
side.

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/A ... 201975.pdf

Well, it does say there was an agreement that those that wished to would be allowed. The same for the TCs.

What was the argument about? besides both sides breaking the agreement?