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Refugee fined for photographing his home in Varosha

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Postby EPSILON » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:20 pm

halil wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:thats crazy


Yes Palio military has own rules always.... Like few days ago your GC MP Mathatis arrested by the GC army for entering into the Greek Cypriots army training site and protesting his own army ..... how about that ? don't you think it is also way of the military mentality? If they have a warning signs not to enter...not the take pictures.... what happens ? they arrest u without question ... like your own army arrested your own member of the parliment. Are u going to protest his arrest too.


Halil, also Thursdays we hv problem.pls Re apply Monday for proper attendance.

What i fuking going on in North. Halil in charge on Talat's times, Halil again on Eroglou's times- mallon to sapouni mas chalame
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:51 pm

Matsakis is a lunatic, no doubt GR, but bear in mind that every time he has made himself available for the RoC Parliament, he was voted in with flying colours. This lunatic is voted in by people who are more luny than him and you know very well in which luny party they reside in.
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Postby EPSILON » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:02 pm

Bananiot wrote:Matsakis is a lunatic, no doubt GR, but bear in mind that every time he has made himself available for the RoC Parliament, he was voted in with flying colours. This lunatic is voted in by people who are more luny than him and you know very well in which luny party they reside in.


Position a) abv sounds like Chinese to me

Position b) who is Matsakis?
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:24 pm

Just seen your comments on this one Nikita. It occured to me that we must have bronze (mprountzina) cojones, since we let the Russian spy, wanted by the USA, go free. Turkey, must have very soft cojones, or perhaps none at all.

Joking apart, this sad incident points to the same direction, once again. We badly need solution as the only remedy for this and many other, far worse incidence that will no doubt follow us without solution. I say this for those that believe that the current situation is better than a compromise solution.
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Postby humanist » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:59 pm

Bananiot any compromised solution that prohibits GC's from accessing their country fully and participating in a fair just and equal voting system is not better than the current situation. The situation in Cyprus is bad enough and does not need to be more complicated a simple democratic system is the only way forward. All that crap about voting for a TC President in a rotating system as was put forward and I was never clear on it anyway was convuluded.

All Cypriots need to live freely, equally and democratically. The only compromise I think that needs to be made is that of moving TC's around especially in cases where the GC refugees are not going to be moving back to their homes because they have made bigger and better ones. And I have lots of relatives who will not move back to their home in their villages of origin but do want their land back not necessarily the house.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:40 pm

humanist wrote:Bananiot any compromised solution that prohibits GC's from accessing their country fully and participating in a fair just and equal voting system is not better than the current situation. The situation in Cyprus is bad enough and does not need to be more complicated a simple democratic system is the only way forward. All that crap about voting for a TC President in a rotating system as was put forward and I was never clear on it anyway was convuluded.

All Cypriots need to live freely, equally and democratically. The only compromise I think that needs to be made is that of moving TC's around especially in cases where the GC refugees are not going to be moving back to their homes because they have made bigger and better ones. And I have lots of relatives who will not move back to their home in their villages of origin but do want their land back not necessarily the house.


In short hand Cyprus to the GCs on plate.
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:51 pm

We are sitting on a time bomb humanist, perhaps it is difficult for you to grasp this, being far away. The current situation of apparent peace and relative prosperity will not last for ever. Most people in Cyprus understand this. No solution will bring the worse for Cyprus and solution is a matter of choosing the best available option. What you are suggesting is fair and just but as in all cases, past actions shape the scene and limit possibilities and options. This is how international affairs work and we cannot change this. The worse option is partition and the best, under the circumstances, is bicommunal, bizonal federation.

Take a look at the SC resolutions. They are very supportive of our issue but when it comes to actually tackling the problem, the UN tell us to work with the TC's for a compromise. The situation can never be as it was prior to 1974, unfortunately, and we are just 36 from 1974. Can you imagine the environment in another 36 years?
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:53 am

Nikitas wrote:VW,

You are out of tune with events yet again. The two arrested, in case you have not heard, were father and son. Both were caught doing the same precise thing: photographing their home in a deserted town. If the TRNC was a serious entity it would have let both go with a warning or fined both. But there is that small detail of US citizenship and lack of cojones.

And had Cyprus kept the spy in jail what would have been the result, as things turned out? Let him go as part of the total swap deal which the Americans and the Russians worked out. Or should Cyprus have been the exception and tried him on its own for money laundering? In case you have not heard, the USA has unilaterally stopped all legal proceedings and dropped all charges against ALL the defendants in this case, ergo there would have been no case for him to answer in any court, since all charges emanated from the US charge sheet. It seems that Cyprus did the "right" thing, obviously not entirely on its own.


Exactly my point - TRNC is wary of involving a US national in what is essentially a Cypriot issue, hence the arrest only of the Cypriot in question.

The fact that the US might have agreed to drop charges in the US in return for a spy-swap, does not mean that they would have done the same for the Spy arrested in Cyprus. In any case it was for the US to decide whether to swap him, not for Cyprus to 2nd guess them. The fact that they bailed him BEFORE knowing what the US would do is the issue, not what happened in the event.
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Postby fig head » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:04 am

i havent read all the posts on here but thought i should write what i think!!

this is complete bollocks.

that old man should not be arrested .. should not payed any fines and screw the Turkish signs where it says no photos!!

the guy was taking pictures for his own home that got stolen from him!!

thos Turks do have the balls to steal and profit out of the same person got stolen !!!

why his son wasnt arrested !! because he have American passport , it only goes to show you how racist and disgusting this is.

people who says, cant GC`s read the signs !!! you all sound too cocky for me!!
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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:16 pm

fig head wrote:i havent read all the posts on here but thought i should write what i think!!

this is complete bollocks.

that old man should not be arrested .. should not payed any fines and screw the Turkish signs where it says no photos!!

the guy was taking pictures for his own home that got stolen from him!!

thos Turks do have the balls to steal and profit out of the same person got stolen !!!

why his son wasnt arrested !! because he have American passport , it only goes to show you how racist and disgusting this is.

people who says, cant GC`s read the signs !!! you all sound too cocky for me!!


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