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[bill cobbett]

Turkish Occupation Regime Attacks American Idol

The USA is one of the most patriotic countries in the World and Turkish business man Mr Bogozlu has been threatening one of the USA's and the Spanish-Speaking World's First Ladies, Ms Jennifer Lopez, with what I think is a most outrageous law-suit.

I believe Ms Lopez was deceived from the outset that she would be visiting a normal country, the country of the glossy brochures, a country at peace with itself, a country were she was told "there is no war". Well, amongst others, those who have served on the Cease-Fire Line in this war, or who have children serving there, and those in the reserve will disagree with that deception.

Following the defeat of the Illegal Regime's Propaganda Stunt, the first of many other scams all aiming towards a back-door recognition, Ms Lopez was the victim of a vile, bitter and most hate-filled campaign by supporters of the Turkish Regime. All will have seen the death-threats and most extreme of nationalistic hate-message and images directed at one of the USA's Most Popular singers.

Believe that, responding to the filthy pressure from the more extreme of the supporters of the Occupation Regime, a foul-mouthed and life-threatening campaign reminiscent in its language of the Fatwa Campaign against Salmon Rushdie of a few years ago, and very diplomatically, to take some of the heat out of the situation, Ms Lopez has issued a second statement.

Of the opinion that this won't stop the "publicity", won't stop Mr Bogozlu and his hate-filled supporters from continuing their threats of legal action against one of the World's Highest Profile Stars from the former, and abusive language from the latter, as well as of course the perfectly reasonable language of others but just how is this "publicity" going down?

My view is that most people tend not to read much past headlines, the first few sentences and the images, and we have some pretty strong images don't we? Then we paint our little summary, our own little overall image of the story, all of it coloured by our experiences and our own views and prejudices and in many places by our Patriotism and by our Tribalism. So what image is being painted in people's minds in the USA; in Puerto-Rico, in Central America and Mexico and in other Spannish-Speaking places and indeed all around a World where Jenny is so much loved? How is this going down?

Well...>>>> Something like>>>> The Occupation Regime is threatening Our Jenny... and from there it's a very, very small step to >>>>>>>>

THE OCCUPATION REGIME IS THREATENING ONE OF US.

[halil]

Turkish Occupation Regime Attacks American Idol

The USA is one of the most patriotic countries in the World and Turkish business man Mr Bogozlu has been threatening one of the USA's and the Spanish-Speaking World's First Ladies, Ms Jennifer Lopez, with what I think is a most outrageous law-suit.

I believe Ms Lopez was deceived from the outset that she would be visiting a normal country, the country of the glossy brochures, a country at peace with itself, a country were she was told "there is no war". Well, amongst others, those who have served on the Cease-Fire Line in this war, or who have children serving there, and those in the reserve will disagree with that deception.

Following the defeat of the Illegal Regime's Propaganda Stunt, the first of many other scams all aiming towards a back-door recognition, Ms Lopez was the victim of a vile, bitter and most hate-filled campaign by supporters of the Turkish Regime. All will have seen the death-threats and most extreme of nationalistic hate-message and images directed at one of the USA's Most Popular singers.

Believe that, responding to the filthy pressure from the more extreme of the supporters of the Occupation Regime, a foul-mouthed and life-threatening campaign reminiscent in its language of the Fatwa Campaign against Salmon Rushdie of a few years ago, and very diplomatically, to take some of the heat out of the situation, Ms Lopez has issued a second statement.

Of the opinion that this won't stop the "publicity", won't stop Mr Bogozlu and his hate-filled supporters from continuing their threats of legal action against one of the World's Highest Profile Stars from the former, and abusive language from the latter, as well as of course the perfectly reasonable language of others but just how is this "publicity" going down?

My view is that most people tend not to read much past headlines, the first few sentences and the images, and we have some pretty strong images don't we? Then we paint our little summary, our own little overall image of the story, all of it coloured by our experiences and our own views and prejudices and in many places by our Patriotism and by our Tribalism. So what image is being painted in people's minds in the USA; in Puerto-Rico, in Central America and Mexico and in other Spannish-Speaking places and indeed all around a World where Jenny is so much loved? How is this going down?

Well...>>>> Something like>>>> The Occupation Regime is threatening Our Jenny... and from there it's a very, very small step to >>>>>>>>

THE OCCUPATION REGIME IS THREATENING ONE OF US.

says the BillCrap..........says the trouble stirrer........Says to anti Turkish Cypriots............ Lots of Crap comes out from the Billy willy boy.... Billy boys never counts down how u are threatening our Lives everyday in Cyprus...every passing day u increasing the dosage insulting on us.... Insulting TC's of this little island....once upon a time we were partners of the ''ROC''....We were equal partners of the ''ROC''..... up to 21st December 1963.... Your ENOSIS dreams are stopped by TC's strong struggle against on us.... We lived 11 years in enclaves....without water...without electric city, withouth roads....without machines of civilised world .... u were not satisfied with those ..... Your friends and mumma Greece showed her face agin in the morning of 15 July 1974......Killing your own brothers and declaring Hellenic republic of Cyprus.... How your memory remembers only one part of it....this was only reminder for u ...Billy crap boy.... other side of the coin....

stop for playing innocent boy games all the time.... Both sides are done bad things to each other in this blady island called Cyprus.... Time is now to find workable solution in Cyprus...the way u are trying to spread hate propaganda does not helping at all... U and your CO's are only helping to increase the gap between GC's and TC's . Do not forget we will solve our own problem in Cyprus ...not the foreigners or Greek nationalist like u can solve....

[paliometoxo]

i dont think JLO caares about cyprus history, just like no one else does..

you can plaay the blame game forever halil, your taksim dream your enosis dream your killing us off dream your splitting our island in two dream your raping killing calling it piss operation,

your right both sides did lots of things. this is pretty bad though so much fighting over a singer.

[halil]

i dont think JLO caares about cyprus history, just like no one else does..

you can plaay the blame game forever halil, your taksim dream your enosis dream your killing us off dream your splitting our island in two dream your raping killing calling it piss operation,

your right both sides did lots of things. this is pretty bad though so much fighting over a singer.

Palio, i am not blaming anybody. I am just calling to Billy willy crap to stop playing with the words and doing antipropaganda all the time. He is only damaging trust between 2 sides...
there was little trust between both sides and now going towards the nill and these CO's are helping a lot.

The way we are going that there will be no unification Palio.
yes there is a differences between u and me for finding solution tothe Cyprus problem. u have rights to think different than me . what I am saying best solution for the Cyprus problem is Bi-zonal,Bi-communal federal . Which is our leaders are also talking and negotiating on it. BBF solution is also supported by international communities as well. These are my ideas. Federal solution it is not the partition for Cyprus. It has been declared by our side (TC'S side) that there will be single citizanship at this federal solution and as u know our leaders are talking on it how they can make it to workable for both side that we can not have any more 1963 or 1974 arguments again. we had enough damage.

yes u are right who cares about Jennifer...I don't care... only they are using her concert to damage relationsip of both communities. lots of concerts goes on in nort everyday Palio.

[Acikgoz]

That's the point Palio, both sides have issues that can flare up like crazy over relatively inconsequential things.

Kick the full democracy argument in the can, it could have worked in 2004 if Papad din't change the course of trust building, but instead the extremist nationalists had their turn on the mic and voila. Back to square one, 60s and 70s all over again.

[B25]

That's the point Palio, both sides have issues that can flare up like crazy over relatively inconsequential things.

Kick the full democracy argument in the can, it could have worked in 2004 if Papad din't change the course of trust building, but instead the extremist nationalists had their turn on the mic and voila. Back to square one, 60s and 70s all over again.

If after all that has been said and revealed about how bad for Cyprus the Ankara Plan was, you still think it should have been implemented, you are a bigger wanker than I thought.

So to goes for anyone else.

Tpap saved the day when he rejected it and your turks can never live it down. You thought you were about to win the jackpot, but were prevented by a cleverer man, boo F hoo.

The AP is dead and buried, period, next idiot please!

[Acikgoz]

A clever evil man was PapaD, a leader in the Akritas plan, no friend of Cypriots, only nationalist exremist Greek Cypriots.

How's the Cyprus plan coming along these days? Any progress on land restitution? Any movement on refugee repatriation? Any revision to the numbers of Turkish people immigrating to Cyprus? Any opportunitiy for new investment areas and cross community partnerships? Any people that have passed away without getting to live in a unified Cyprus over the last 6 years? Any reduction in the military presence of Greek or Turkish troops? Any improvement in relations between GC and TC communities? Any growth in trade for the island with partners not traded with for decades?.....

Well, I guess you can answer these for yourself and then consider if it was a wise move. As in '63 take the road most travelled, domination first, humanity second. See where that leads you.

[B25]

A clever evil man was PapaD, a leader in the Akritas plan, no friend of Cypriots, only nationalist exremist Greek Cypriots.

How's the Cyprus plan coming along these days? Any progress on land restitution? Any movement on refugee repatriation? Any revision to the numbers of Turkish people immigrating to Cyprus? Any opportunitiy for new investment areas and cross community partnerships? Any people that have passed away without getting to live in a unified Cyprus over the last 6 years? Any reduction in the military presence of Greek or Turkish troops? Any improvement in relations between GC and TC communities? Any growth in trade for the island with partners not traded with for decades?.....

Well, I guess you can answer these for yourself and then consider if it was a wise move. As in '63 take the road most travelled, domination first, humanity second. See where that leads you.

All those points are down to Turkey. She is the obstacle here, remove her and we can have a solution very quickly. Don't blame the GCs for the stranglehold mama has over you.

At least we get to say what happens in the 67% of the Island, the AP would have lost us even that and we would all be wearing headscarves and speaking turkish by now.

P.S. Regrets about your old man btw, but it was difficult times and many this side also lost theirs.

[Acikgoz]

Well Turkey along with the rest of the international community endorsed the plan which would have seen real movement in relations and provided a foundation from which to move forward for both communities together. I openly admit it was not a perfect plan, but there never will be one unless we can trust each other. Whatever new plan comes along, there will be little likely to change, unless the radical step of partition is put forward. So I belive it is a cost the wasted years and the antagonism we have now had to endure that has further poisoned our relationships.

Yes you do have a say in the 67% of the island though apart from the few old ciras I doubt the headscarf thing would catch on however much they work it as a fashion accessory in Turkey. Somehow just not what I'd call sexy...

Ps. Appreciated, same as always goes for the innocent GCs that also lost their lives and loved ones. Let us never have to expose our children to what we went through.

[humanist]

there will be no solution to the Cyprus problem because the TC's are not genuine in their want for unification we have seen this repeatedly by unreasonable demands and the want for partition. Which you ain't gonna get.

Firstly and foremost however is their relentless revisiting of the past which no one can change. Whilst in December 1963 your brothers were killed in July 1974 my uncle was killed by the Turkish army
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However, I still believe that we can let the past go and concentrate on the future. I think the decision is easy TC's do you want a United Cyprus or not. If you do then rally and protest against Eroglu for going outside the parameters in which it has been agreed for unification. Come up with a better plan about State boundaries and freedom of movement, freedom of choice, political equality for all one person one vote allow refugees the right of return join the RoC Department of Commerce so you can have your products sold overseas, join the RoC footbal clubs so your players can show case their strengths unfortunately they have to choose to play in Apoel, Omonia or which ever other team they relate too more. Return Varoshia tomorrow and start building a unified Cyprus ... you are the ones stopping this progressive step. Or give Eroglu the lime light he wants whilst your children are immigrating and your numbers are falling because the elders are dying an the young are moving on.