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Postby B25 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:14 pm

ttoli wrote:
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Why the Native GCs will regain ALL their lands ...


ALL their lands? Even the land GCs have given up for compensation after going to the IPC?

http://www.northcyprusipc.org/

As of 16 July 2010, 602 applications have been lodged with the Commission and 113 of them have been concluded through friendly settlements and four through formal hearing. The Commission has paid GBP 43,428,850 to the applicants as compensation. Moreover, it has ruled for exchange and compensation in two cases, for restitution in one case and for restitution and compensation in five cases. In one case it has delivered a decision for restitution after the settlement of Cyprus Issue, and in one case it has ruled for partial restitution


Why don't you fuck off (go on, complain to Admin again) with your stupidities. They might receive compensation for loss of use, but no one can take away their legitimate right to claim their own properties! And, finally, the whole of Cyprus belongs to the RoC.
Rattled are we dear?, Do you seriously think that they would be happy to live on this side? Flags a fluttering?, If you are that desperate, PM me, I have some land for sale in Lapta(You are a Cypriot aren't you?).


I wonder who you stole that from???

Oh dont tell me you had it since 1571, asshole.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:18 pm

ttoli wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Gasman wrote:
Why the Native GCs will regain ALL their lands ...


ALL their lands? Even the land GCs have given up for compensation after going to the IPC?

http://www.northcyprusipc.org/

As of 16 July 2010, 602 applications have been lodged with the Commission and 113 of them have been concluded through friendly settlements and four through formal hearing. The Commission has paid GBP 43,428,850 to the applicants as compensation. Moreover, it has ruled for exchange and compensation in two cases, for restitution in one case and for restitution and compensation in five cases. In one case it has delivered a decision for restitution after the settlement of Cyprus Issue, and in one case it has ruled for partial restitution


Why don't you fuck off (go on, complain to Admin again) with your stupidities. They might receive compensation for loss of use, but no one can take away their legitimate right to claim their own properties! And, finally, the whole of Cyprus belongs to the RoC.
Rattled are we dear?, Do you seriously think that they would be happy to live on this side? Flags a fluttering?, If you are that desperate, PM me, I have some land for sale in Lapta(You are a Cypriot aren't you?).


Rattled? Moi? Non! The gasbag was the rattled one. Can't stomach a little Germanic.

The only way out for you, ttoli is to hand back the land, which you "bought" from thieving TCs, to the original GC owners! Good boy, you know it makes sense. :wink:
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Postby yialousa1971 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:44 am

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miltiades wrote:Are you suggesting that the G/Cs did not exist prior to the Ottoman invasion of 1571 . Don't be silly now , the Cypriot people existed long before either the Turks or the Greeks.
This island has been invaded by hoards of nations but survives to this day as Cyprus and not as south or north as the Turkish invaders would have us believe .


Don't be stupid!!!

Palaeolithic settlements existed in Greece as well, and to presume that Palaeolithic settlements in Cyprus pre date those in Greece is irrational, immature and racist.

http://www.greekprehistory.gr/prehistory.htm


Haven't seen that webpage in ages, thanks for posting it. :D
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Postby Gasman » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:14 am

Why don't you fuck off (go on, complain to Admin again) with your stupidities.


Unlike yourself who is always bleating publicly to admin on the forum, I have NEVER complained to admin about anything you have posted to me.

Or about anyone else.

And I am sure Admin can confirm that to you.

You've been telling me to fuck off the forum from almost the day I joined it. If I do stay away, it is not to comply with your orders, it is because you, almost singlehandedly, have turned it into one of the most boring forums around.

It is embarrassing to read the nonsense and attention seeking threads you have to post when you've bored most other posters away just to see SOMETHING ticking over.

However, you are getting more attention on other forums these days - so all is not lost.

Now why don't you do a little thread telling us all about how, before the Hallumi Wars, the Isle of Wight used to be joined to Cyprus and Greece many years ago.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:45 am

Gasman wrote:However, you are getting more attention on other forums these days - so all is not lost.


... where you obtain your instructions and Turkish propaganda links!
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:39 am

Murataga opined:

"Athens News Agency is not a credible unbiased source - especially when it comes to Greco-Turkish affairs.

Try again - and with a link this time."

I knew you would display your usual racist crap so here it comes from Hurriyet complete with links. You will also find news of ANOTHER grounding of another ship, the Bodrum in another island, Kastellorizo:

"Meanwhile, referring to the way the Turkish frigate Yavuz, which had run aground in the Aegean near the Greek island of Kos, was towed away with the help of Greek ships, a HURRIYET headline said, "Common sense in the Aegean. Thanks to the two sides acting with common sense our ship was rescued jointly without causing a Turco-Greek crisis"

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/h.php? ... 1996-08-16

"Turkish Navy Corvette Bodrum (F-501) is currently in dry dock. Several weeks ago Greek media reported that this Corvette ran aground in Greek territorial waters off the island of Kastellorizo. Instead of talking the quickest route through Greek waters (harmless passage as provided for in the UN Convention on the Law Of the Sea) the Turkish Captain plotted a course close to the island’s harbour, in what only can be presumed to be a show of force.

During the ship’s impact with the Koutsoumba rock it apparently lost its sonar dome. In the following days the Greek Navy was alerted by local fishermen that some metallic objects had been spotted just under the surface of the water. Greek Navy divers identified the objects as parts of the Bodrum’s sonar dome. The Turkish Navy has not confirmed the incident. If the Bodrum is indeed in dry dock as “En Kripto” reports then it is almost certain the Turkish ship hit the rocks."

http://hellenicdefencenews.blogspot.com ... chive.html

and also look at militaryphotos.net which had photos of the Bodrum.

Maybe the Aegean should be avoided by non indigenous sailors who do not know their way around.
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:44 am

Murataga, when you came to Cyprus you found the Venetians, and when they came who did they find? Who had been here all along and endured all those comings and goings?

The indigenous population. You know, the ones who built churches dating from the 4th century, and pre christian monuments dating back to 1200 BC. Hard to swallow I know, but the way to become local is not to deny but accept the history of the place you want to call home. Till then you are siding with an invader.

I saw the situation between 1968 and 1974 and know who enforced the enclaves. Try that ploy on someone younger or with less memory.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:02 pm

Murataga wrote:Greek Cypriots are not the indigenous population of this island. They came from Greece, they speak the Greek language, they live the lives of Greeks, their allegiance and loyalty is with Greece. A few different dance motives and a few dishes with more olive oil does not make you indigenous.

So which Turkish nationalist, Greek nationalist, or British ignorant is going to prove Murataga correct by supplying credible and irrefutable evidence that…

1. Greeks “colonized Cyprus”.
2. The indigenous Cypriots vanished into thin air.

???

You would need to satisfy both these criteria for your theory to work…
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Postby Gasman » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:23 pm

Not this British ignorant. Try Lady O. for all thing Greek and Greekish.

She could probably drag up something to prove that Greeks colonised Mars.
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Postby Vincehugo » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:13 pm

Oracle wrote:
Gasman wrote:
Why the Native GCs will regain ALL their lands ...


ALL their lands? Even the land GCs have given up for compensation after going to the IPC?

http://www.northcyprusipc.org/

As of 16 July 2010, 602 applications have been lodged with the Commission and 113 of them have been concluded through friendly settlements and four through formal hearing. The Commission has paid GBP 43,428,850 to the applicants as compensation. Moreover, it has ruled for exchange and compensation in two cases, for restitution in one case and for restitution and compensation in five cases. In one case it has delivered a decision for restitution after the settlement of Cyprus Issue, and in one case it has ruled for partial restitution


Why don't you fuck off (go on, complain to Admin again) with your stupidities. They might receive compensation for loss of use, but no one can take away their legitimate right to claim their own properties! And, finally, the whole of Cyprus belongs to the RoC.


I think you have fundamentally misunderstood the role of the IPC. Any successful claim to the IPC require the applicant to give up their right to this property. It is not possible to claim solely for loss of use (although loss of use can form part of a claim). It is of course your legitimate right to ignore the IPC but anyone receiving compensation or exchange from the IPC, by their own definition (below) must give up their legitimate right to the property in question. In summary - you are wrong Oracle.


Extracted from Law 67/2005.

10. (1) Applicants who receive compensation in return for their rights over immovable properties in virtue of the application of the provisions this Law, can under no condition, make a claim of right of ownership over immovable property for which they have received compensation.
(2) Applicants who receive new immovable property by way of exchange in virtue of the application of the provisions of this Law, can, under no condition, make a claim to a right of ownership over the immovable property on which their application was based.
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