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[Murataga]

"Greek Cypriots are not the indigenous population of this island."

You came in 1571 and found us on the island. As far as you are concerned we are indigenous.

No, not really. We found the Venetians on this island when we came in 1571 too - should we consider them indigenous people? There is a definition of what indigenous is; look it up wherever you like. As you search you will find a keyword in all definitions: origination. You do not originate from this island. You came here from Greece and not only that but you speak the Greek language, lead the lives of Greeks, your allegiance and loyalty is with Greece, you practice the Greek religion, you sing the Greek national anthem and you wave the Greek flag on your border. So don`t come here with your indigenous bs.

"And you know it because everywhere you look in the north that fact is blaring at you. From the ancient ruins of Salamis, to the churches, the cemeteries, the native architecture, the names of every place you so desperately try to alter, is a reminder.

There are resemblances from the domination of different empires in Cyprus throughout history. Assyrians, Egyptians, Persians, Romans, Venetians, Ottomans, English etc... I think it is wonderful, great attraction for tourists.

"No wonder you have to hang giant flags and carve symbols into mountains to convince yourself you are not there temporarily. Such frantic symbol pushing is not healthy.

The giant flag is to make sure that as your mouth sings the Greek national anthem and hand waves the Greek flag in Cyprus your eyes see that we exist here too.

"And I did not say the TC community was going to degrade. I said the invasion and occupation will degrade precisely because it is not organically connected with the indigenous population.

To the contrary Turkish Cypriots feel strongly connected to the Turkish military. The main reason is for supporting us in our fight to get out of the enclaves you shoved us in to, freeing us from the control and suppression of illegal bandits who call themselves the 'National Guard', and carving in to your brains that ENOSIS will never happen.

"Even the British realised they could not make headway without local connections. The more you try to keep it separe the more easily it will crumble.

Turkish Cypriots are local - get used to the idea.

[cymart]

What about my ancestors property in what is now Ukraine Stella?Nobody ever even thinks we might get that back and it only happened in the 1940's,very recent compared to the Middle Ages you talked about?
Maybe that truth is that nobody really owns anything-except in their minds!!

[Gasman]

Why the Native GCs will regain ALL their lands ...

ALL their lands? Even the land GCs have given up for compensation after going to the IPC?

http://www.northcyprusipc.org/

As of 16 July 2010, 602 applications have been lodged with the Commission and 113 of them have been concluded through friendly settlements and four through formal hearing. The Commission has paid GBP 43,428,850 to the applicants as compensation. Moreover, it has ruled for exchange and compensation in two cases, for restitution in one case and for restitution and compensation in five cases. In one case it has delivered a decision for restitution after the settlement of Cyprus Issue, and in one case it has ruled for partial restitution

[Acikgoz]

Well, it's a start, 117 less angry people whose families can now get on with their lives.
Interesting to note restitution also features. It'd be interesting to know what results in restitution vs compensation, and how the process works, is it by take a number or by whose is easiest to complete.

[yialousa1971]

Why the Native GCs will regain ALL their lands ...

ALL their lands? Even the land GCs have given up for compensation after going to the IPC?

http://www.northcyprusipc.org/

As of 16 July 2010, 602 applications have been lodged with the Commission and 113 of them have been concluded through friendly settlements and four through formal hearing. The Commission has paid GBP 43,428,850 to the applicants as compensation. Moreover, it has ruled for exchange and compensation in two cases, for restitution in one case and for restitution and compensation in five cases. In one case it has delivered a decision for restitution after the settlement of Cyprus Issue, and in one case it has ruled for partial restitution

Are you one of those blond Mongols?

[Acikgoz]

Sounds like she like a human to me, we all know that you like the sound of woof woof so try not to get on everyone's case.

[Gasman]

No idea what Yialouser is on about. Seems to be one of those who just HATE to see anything they don't want to acknowledge in black and white.

We hear so much from the few who say 'NEVER' to going via the IPC or accepting compensation. But nothing from these hundreds who have happily done so.

[Oracle]

"Greek Cypriots are not the indigenous population of this island."

You came in 1571 and found us on the island. As far as you are concerned we are indigenous.

No, not really. We found the Venetians on this island when we came in 1571 too - should we consider them indigenous people? .

Your confusion of what constitutes "indigenous" is clearly apparent. The Venetians were foreign rulers, for a few decades, whilst the overwhelming population was Greek. The only consistent, long term, majority population of Cyprus has been Greek, since historical records began. Since we have not only historical records, now, but also recognised sovereignty and registered title deeds, protected by internationally observed human rights laws, you have not got a leg to stand on regarding claiming any of the assets of the Greeks of this island as your own or for your recent Turkish imported brothers.

[Oracle]

Why the Native GCs will regain ALL their lands ...

ALL their lands? Even the land GCs have given up for compensation after going to the IPC?

http://www.northcyprusipc.org/

As of 16 July 2010, 602 applications have been lodged with the Commission and 113 of them have been concluded through friendly settlements and four through formal hearing. The Commission has paid GBP 43,428,850 to the applicants as compensation. Moreover, it has ruled for exchange and compensation in two cases, for restitution in one case and for restitution and compensation in five cases. In one case it has delivered a decision for restitution after the settlement of Cyprus Issue, and in one case it has ruled for partial restitution

Why don't you fuck off (go on, complain to Admin again) with your stupidities. They might receive compensation for loss of use, but no one can take away their legitimate right to claim their own properties! And, finally, the whole of Cyprus belongs to the RoC.

[ttoli]

Why the Native GCs will regain ALL their lands ...

ALL their lands? Even the land GCs have given up for compensation after going to the IPC?

http://www.northcyprusipc.org/

As of 16 July 2010, 602 applications have been lodged with the Commission and 113 of them have been concluded through friendly settlements and four through formal hearing. The Commission has paid GBP 43,428,850 to the applicants as compensation. Moreover, it has ruled for exchange and compensation in two cases, for restitution in one case and for restitution and compensation in five cases. In one case it has delivered a decision for restitution after the settlement of Cyprus Issue, and in one case it has ruled for partial restitution

Why don't you fuck off (go on, complain to Admin again) with your stupidities. They might receive compensation for loss of use, but no one can take away their legitimate right to claim their own properties! And, finally, the whole of Cyprus belongs to the RoC.

Rattled are we dear?, Do you seriously think that they would be happy to live on this side? Flags a fluttering?, If you are that desperate, PM me, I have some land for sale in Lapta(You are a Cypriot aren't you?).