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[Issy1956]

Calm down my dear-I have already left Cyprus long ago never to return. You driven out many native TC's out of Cyprus and reduced them to minority in the north. Well done- you have won the battle. As I said its all yours.
All you have to do it to now is to persuade those damn Turks to leave as well. Good luck. At the rate they breed there will be many more of them than you before long as well so you better make a start.

[Oracle]

Calm down my dear-I have already left Cyprus long ago never to return. You driven out many native TC's out of Cyprus and reduced them to minority in the north. Well done- you have won the battle. As I said its all yours.
All you have to do it to now is to persuade those damn Turks to leave as well. Good luck. At the rate they breed there will be many more of them than you before long as well so you better make a start.

Reduced them to a "minority in the north"? What were TCs in the whole of Cyprus may I ask? And in the "north", pre-'74, they were even less than the average 15%! "Delusions" you said? It's precisely because you behaved like a ruling majority that you never managed to fit into a proposed democratic governance.

Now you have to face the truth that long-established colonial powers (like the USA) are relinquishing to the rights of the real natives -- allowing them to regain lands 'lost to invaders' centuries ago!

[zan]

Calm down my dear-I have already left Cyprus long ago never to return. You driven out many native TC's out of Cyprus and reduced them to minority in the north. Well done- you have won the battle. As I said its all yours.
All you have to do it to now is to persuade those damn Turks to leave as well. Good luck. At the rate they breed there will be many more of them than you before long as well so you better make a start.

Reduced them to a "minority in the north"? What were TCs in the whole of Cyprus may I ask? And in the "north", pre-'74, they were even less than the average 15%! "Delusions" you said? It's precisely because you behaved like a ruling majority that you never managed to fit into a proposed democratic governance.

Now you have to face the truth that long-established colonial powers (like the USA) are relinquishing to the rights of the real natives -- allowing them to regain lands 'lost to invaders' centuries ago!

That should raise the population in Greece

[Nikitas]

The 1974 invasion is not the first and certainly not the worst invasion Cyprus and Cypriots have suffered. Like all the others before it will fray and degrade. This one more so because it has kept itself totally separate from the indigenous population. Bringing Kurds and Anatolians to the island and plastering the place with symbols is proof of the panic, the frantic attempt to establish the lie. These things do not work, especially in the 21st century.

[Murataga]

The 1974 invasion is not the first and certainly not the worst invasion Cyprus and Cypriots have suffered. Like all the others before it will fray and degrade.

Sorry to bust your bubble: Turkish Cypriots are here to stay - we will not fray and degrade.

This one more so because it has kept itself totally separate from the indigenous population.

Greek Cypriots are not the indigenous population of this island. They came from Greece, they speak the Greek language, they live the lives of Greeks, their allegiance and loyalty is with Greece. A few different dance motives and a few dishes with more olive oil does not make you indigenous. Go sell sell that crap propaganda in Brussels.

Bringing Kurds and Anatolians to the island and plastering the place with symbols is proof of the panic, the frantic attempt to establish the lie.

Visit the North when you get a chance. Let me know if you sense any panic

As for symbols... let me know when you lower the flag of Greece right newxt to every RoC flag on your border and stop singing the national anthem of Greece as if it is the RoC`s.

These things do not work, especially in the 21st century.

What does not work is attacking people lesser in population than you and bitching and moaning for failing to annihilate them.

P.S. IT`S BEEN OVER A YEAR NOW: I AM STILL WAITING FOR SOME PIECE EVIDENCE ON YOUR "YAVUZ DEBACLE"

[miltiades]

Are you suggesting that the G/Cs did not exist prior to the Ottoman invasion of 1571 . Don't be silly now , the Cypriot people existed long before either the Turks or the Greeks.
This island has been invaded by hoards of nations but survives to this day as Cyprus and not as south or north as the Turkish invaders would have us believe .

[Paphitis]

Are you suggesting that the G/Cs did not exist prior to the Ottoman invasion of 1571 . Don't be silly now , the Cypriot people existed long before either the Turks or the Greeks.
This island has been invaded by hoards of nations but survives to this day as Cyprus and not as south or north as the Turkish invaders would have us believe .

Don't be stupid!!!

Palaeolithic settlements existed in Greece as well, and to presume that Palaeolithic settlements in Cyprus pre date those in Greece is irrational, immature and racist.

http://www.greekprehistory.gr/prehistory.htm

[Nikitas]

This is for Murataga re the Yavuz debacle.

'Bad navigation' grounds Turkish frigate off Kos
Athens,16/08/1996 (ANA)
Greece on Wednesday said a Turkish frigate which ran aground in the shallows of the Greek island of Kos late on Tuesday night had "faulty navigation" and ruled out any covert intent in the incident.

National Defense Minister Gerassimos Arsenis said the whole incident appeared to be a mistake, adding that the case was closed.

Mr. Arsenis attributed the grounding of the 'Yavuz' to "faulty navigation."

Foreign Minister Theodoros Pangalos said that Turkey did not attempt to dispute Greek sovereignty, but followed the established route of co-operation during consultations on the dislodging of the Yavuz.

The Yavuz was refloated on Wednesday morning with the assistance of a Greek navy tugboat and two private tugs, and taken to the dividing line between Greek and Turkish territorial waters, from where it headed for a Turkish port. The Greek navy had launched an operation to dislodge the Turkish frigate following agreement between the Greek and Turkish Navy General Staffs. A Greek naval officer had boarded the frigate as liaison and to coordinate the operation.

[Nikitas]

"Greek Cypriots are not the indigenous population of this island."

You came in 1571 and found us on the island. As far as you are concerned we are indigenous. And you know it because everywhere you look in the north that fact is blaring at you. From the ancient ruins of Salamis, to the churches, the cemeteries, the native architecture, the names of every place you so desperately try to alter, is a reminder. No wonder you have to hang giant flags and carve symbols into mountains to convince yourself you are not there temporarily. Such frantic symbol pushing is not healthy.

And I did not say the TC community was going to degrade. I said the invasion and occupation will degrade precisely because it is not organically connected with the indigenous population. Even the British realised they could not make headway without local connections. The more you try to keep it separe the more easily it will crumble.

[Murataga]

This is for Murataga re the Yavuz debacle.

'Bad navigation' grounds Turkish frigate off Kos
Athens,16/08/1996 (ANA)
Greece on Wednesday said a Turkish frigate which ran aground in the shallows of the Greek island of Kos late on Tuesday night had "faulty navigation" and ruled out any covert intent in the incident.

National Defense Minister Gerassimos Arsenis said the whole incident appeared to be a mistake, adding that the case was closed.

Mr. Arsenis attributed the grounding of the 'Yavuz' to "faulty navigation."

Foreign Minister Theodoros Pangalos said that Turkey did not attempt to dispute Greek sovereignty, but followed the established route of co-operation during consultations on the dislodging of the Yavuz.

The Yavuz was refloated on Wednesday morning with the assistance of a Greek navy tugboat and two private tugs, and taken to the dividing line between Greek and Turkish territorial waters, from where it headed for a Turkish port. The Greek navy had launched an operation to dislodge the Turkish frigate following agreement between the Greek and Turkish Navy General Staffs. A Greek naval officer had boarded the frigate as liaison and to coordinate the operation.

Athens News Agency is not a credible unbiased source - especially when it comes to Greco-Turkish affairs.

Try again - and with a link this time.