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[Oracle]

Karmi was populated by Greek Cypriots who were made refugees (4 killed/missing) by the Turkish invasion and occupation.

The houses were not in ruins pre-1974.

http://www.kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/karmi/

To be accurate the photos are all dated as "Photo taken before July 1974." Doesn't say how long a time before 1974 - 1970? 1965?

I don't doubt it took a bit of shell-fire during the war, but my info is many houses were dilapidated dating back some time.

It says before "July" 1974, so it would hardly be years earlier.

Besides, the population of the village was relatively stable and wealthy. Why would over 500 people live in ruins?

[vaughanwilliams]

Karmi was populated by Greek Cypriots who were made refugees (4 killed/missing) by the Turkish invasion and occupation.

The houses were not in ruins pre-1974.

http://www.kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/karmi/

To be accurate the photos are all dated as "Photo taken before July 1974." Doesn't say how long a time before 1974 - 1970? 1965?

I don't doubt it took a bit of shell-fire during the war, but my info is many houses were dilapidated dating back some time.

It says before "July" 1974, so it would hardly be years earlier.

Besides, the population of the village was relatively stable and wealthy. Why would over 500 people live in ruins?

I think the reference to July 1974 is not so much anything other than reference to the war.
I'm not sure stable and wealthy accurately describes the pop pf Karmi at that time. There are also a lot more "old" dwellings in Karmi than would be needed to house 500 people given that in 1960 it housed 653.

[Nikitas]

Karmi was one of the richest village in the Pendactylos range pre 1974, with high land prices and demand from developers dating back to the 1960s. The "saviors" who moved in and bought the land from thieves no doubt would love the idea that they have brought back a "dying village".

Some of us had friends and relatives in Karmi and visited often before 1974.

[Nikitas]

In the middle of Karmi there was a huge cypress tree, a landmark for the village. That tree was cut by a rocket fired from a Turkish jet in 1974. The village took more than just a few shells.

VW, lay off things you do not know. Your information is from biased sources.

[Oracle]

Karmi was populated by Greek Cypriots who were made refugees (4 killed/missing) by the Turkish invasion and occupation.

The houses were not in ruins pre-1974.

http://www.kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/karmi/

To be accurate the photos are all dated as "Photo taken before July 1974." Doesn't say how long a time before 1974 - 1970? 1965?

I don't doubt it took a bit of shell-fire during the war, but my info is many houses were dilapidated dating back some time.

It says before "July" 1974, so it would hardly be years earlier.

Besides, the population of the village was relatively stable and wealthy. Why would over 500 people live in ruins?

I think the reference to July 1974 is not so much anything other than reference to the war.
I'm not sure stable and wealthy accurately describes the pop pf Karmi at that time. There are also a lot more "old" dwellings in Karmi than would be needed to house 500 people given that in 1960 it housed 653.

Smaller families in the 70's than in the 60's, not less families. And yes, Karmi was wealthy as you can tell from its heritage.


"Two icons estimated to cost arounf TL 1 million were stolen from Kyrenia "Court". The icons stolen from the village church of Karmi 5 months ago were found in the Famagusta district and 4 persons were arrested in connection with the incident. The icons were locked away in Kyrenia "Court-House" to be stolen again."
Turkish Cypriot "Bozkurt", 3.9.1979

[denizaksulu]

Most of the houses became dilapidated after 1974, when the best were taken up by the 'VIP's. The rest were left to ruin. Time did take its toll when they began selling the dilapidated ones to the highest bidder. I was offered one for peanuts, but I walked away in disgust. I like Karmi a lot, but not that much. Too many ghosts.

I knew a few German wine growers 'owning' houses there. They only visit every few years or so. One was Panzer driver on the Eastern front. Bernhardt died about 10 years ago. I am sure its a lovely place to live in - by its real owners.

[AWE]

Has the RoC ever prosecuted anyone for the murders and massacres of TCs committed from 63 to the division in 74? and if not why not? Cyprus is a small island and everyone knows everyone, it was smaller back then, so I can only assume that the state or the community feel that no crime was committed. As an EU member state this lack of action should be unacceptable, especially to a people and state that demand the rule of law with regard the events of 74 and afterwards. Or is this the usual hypocrisy that the law does not apply when it suits.

There were probably more TCs/TMTs who were murderers in that time period and so how many of them were found and punished?

I would suggest that there have been no prosecutions of TMT members in the TRNC but as the RoC is in the EU it should meet that standard of Justice - can you imagin Germany, Austria, Poland of the Balts NOT prosecuting an individual if it came out they were a member of an Einsatzgruppen?

[SKI-preo]

I have been informed by a Jewish colleague that he will attend with his family at the memorial service at Martin Place, Sydney on Sunday 25 March at 1.30pm. Turkey has really pissed off the Jewish diasopra.

[Gasman]

I asked:

How many of the GC members of this forum (worldwide) will be out demonstrating to express their outrage and make their feelings known?

DT told me about what he did when still at school.

O gave a list of venues for demos.

I ask again:

How many of the GC members of this forum (worldwide) will be out demonstrating to express their outrage and make their feelings known?

[DT.]

I asked:

How many of the GC members of this forum (worldwide) will be out demonstrating to express their outrage and make their feelings known?

DT told me about what he did when still at school.

O gave a list of venues for demos.

I ask again:

How many of the GC members of this forum (worldwide) will be out demonstrating to express their outrage and make their feelings known?

none of your business.