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J LO is comig back or has to pay 40 million :)

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Postby Kikapu » Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:33 am

Raymanoff wrote:3 miles? that takes me 6 minutes on a windsurf :D And thats in choppy conditions :D


That's fast going.

Actually, it may be 12 nautical miles from the shore before it can be deemed International waters, therefore Ray, it will now take you 24 minutes to reach the floating hotel/casino.! :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:36 am

Viewpoint wrote:Bad press for the TRNC you are joking arent you, its has tırned the spotlight back onto the inhumane embagoes we are under and the EU slowing moving towards adoting direct trade I think you arguements are yet again revealed for what they really are biased one sick comments that will always be anti TC therefore TRNC. As for Cratos I met the management team recently and they couldnt be more pleased with the PR stunt noway could thay have gotten the name of the hotel so taled about and to a wide audience without the Jlo saga even you would not have heard about them. The fact that you take time to debate as always negatively which is no suprise and expected only supports their opinion that they win whether she performs or not. Plus if you sign a contract take money and then back out you will get sued, thats what Jlo will face, noway way out of this but hey the GCs could also meet that bill as well ho no forgot their economy is going south 40million dollars is big bucks.


This is your problem, VP. First you claim that the spotlight has been put on the "trnc" with isolation and embargoes, and at the same time you claim of the north having the most luxurious hotel on the island with Hummers and Limos and so on. For the outside world, it doesn't give them the image of deprived people of the north as the case is with the Palestinians, or else there will be flotilla of goods coming to the north. The Cratos and JLo saga has damaged the image of the north a great deal. As I've stated, if International personalities are not willing to come to the north despite potential $40 lawsuit loss to them, tell me what will. The message that's in all the papers are, the reasons are because of the occupation and Human Rights violations. Naturally the press in the north and Turkey will put a spin on all the negative news. Using your term, "if someone spits in their face, they will claim it is raining".! While the Cratos has been getting name recognition, the "trnc" has been receiving BAD name recognition.



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Kikapu wrote:Besides, having a casino on a sea front is a minus for the casinos from business point of view. It's a major distraction which takes away gambling time from people. Why do you think Vegas was built in a dessert. You've seen it, there is no daylight or clocks inside the casinos. You don't know which way is south, North, East or west, or even what's up or down. The casinos want your complete attention and your money.!


Matter of opinion, why the hell have they built built all sorts of attractions outside the hotels when they want to keep the gambler inside, dont give us that bullshit, not everyone goes to Vegas for the gambling, ı perosnally hate it but enjoyed everything else.


To bring the whole family to Vegas, is the reason why the attractions, but almost all the attractions are provided by the casinos, therefore gamblers are never too far away from the tables. If there were no entertainments, most people wouldn't come. Most people are not serious gamblers, but they do mostly gamble while they are in Vegas. There are many great hotels in Turkey on the coasts, so why would a non gambler from Turkey come to the Cratos in the north when that's all the Cratos is offering, gambling and the sea.

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Kikapu wrote:Just for conversation sake, when were you last in Las Vegas and which hotel/casinos did you visit for you to state that Cratos can knock most of the hotels on the strip for six. Lets see how much you know. You don't need to tell me where you stayed.


I am under no obligation to prove anything or answer your immature questions just as I have to accept you have been you have to accept that I have also been.


OK, so you don't know very much about the hotels in Vegas. Just for your information, Cratos style of hotel will never be built on the strip. It is way too simple looking which lacks any motivation for any visitor to go and look inside. It has a typical American MOTEL look to it than a 5 star hotel casino. Most hotels on the strip costs in the Billions of dollars to be built these days.

Viewpoint wrote:As for the RoC granting gambling permission we have been hearing about this for years, if they are going to do it then go right ahead I hate gambling so it does really bother me. As for the loss of jobs the majority of workers in the Cratos have only recently arrived from Turkey as their are not enough TCs who want to work in hotels, so it didnt really effect the local jobs market.


It's interesting, that the Cratos is bringing most of their workers from Turkey rather than using local labour. You say the TCs will not work in the hotel, but what about the hundreds of thousands of other Turkish settlers. Why not hire them, or is it because these people along with the TCs are not acceptable by the Turkish elites who may be using the hotel as being not sophisticated enough. Yes VP, the Turkish elites are very racists, even towards their own in Turkey as well as towards the TCs, just because we don't talk like them.

So, basically, almost all of the money will go back to Turkey, as well as the employees sending their money back home to their families in Turkey, since most are coming from there as new. The north gets the scraps and the bad PR and the Cratos gets everything else, and you are thrilled about it.

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Kikapu wrote:And by the way, what's with the Greek name for the hotel in the north by the Turks, Cratos-Kratos.??


And you claim Turkification of the north, proves you wrong yet again.


Then they should have kept the name "Kratos" instead.! :wink:
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Postby IMPOSTALIEDUS » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:06 pm

what makes you think there are hundreds of thousands of turkish workers, the facts are companies must get work pemits for thier staff from turkey , you just cannot pick them up from the street, no diff from other parts of the world, and most of these will be labourers ,cleaners, waiters etc, tc dont tend to take these types of jobs, but they will work in the better jobs in the hotel, No diff from the roc probably with foriegn workers,as for the turkish settlers ,most are either rich or educated,and would not fall into the labourer type catogory,but like most thing in life that are exceptions to the rule
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:38 pm

so much for her having to pay 40 million ...
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:46 pm

The outcome of the law suit is yet to be decided.
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:55 pm

Viewpoint wrote:The outcome of the law suit is yet to be decided.


What do you think will be the outcome of the lawsuit?
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:58 pm

Viewpoint wrote:The outcome of the law suit is yet to be decided.


Get it right just once please VP.

There has been no law-suit. There has only been the usual Blustery and Face-Saving Bravado Empty Threat of legal action....

... and what message is this Threat sending to the World's Performers? Well it's a pretty effective threat in one way... in that it will deter any other artists having anything to do with Tnucland.

Thanks Mr Bogozlu.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:02 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The outcome of the law suit is yet to be decided.


What do you think will be the outcome of the lawsuit?


really depends how water tight the initial agreement was between Jlo and the Boz Group Turkey, Murat Bozoglu says they will sue so it remains to be seen what will happen another option Jlo may pay them off with money she got from the GCs.
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:25 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The outcome of the law suit is yet to be decided.


What do you think will be the outcome of the lawsuit?


really depends how water tight the initial agreement was between Jlo and the Boz Group Turkey,


It won't be water tight if the hotel is built on stolen land. And, as you know, the hotel is situated in a territory unrecognised by the whole world.

Viewpoint wrote:Murat Bozoglu says they will sue so it remains to be seen what will happen another option Jlo may pay them off with money she got from the GCs.


What money? What are you talking about?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:32 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The outcome of the law suit is yet to be decided.


What do you think will be the outcome of the lawsuit?


really depends how water tight the initial agreement was between Jlo and the Boz Group Turkey,


It won't be water tight if the hotel is built on stolen land. And, as you know, the hotel is situated in a territory unrecognised by the whole world.

Viewpoint wrote:Murat Bozoglu says they will sue so it remains to be seen what will happen another option Jlo may pay them off with money she got from the GCs.


What money? What are you talking about?


Mala you know how the world works, she was probably offered a large sum not to perform, people forget ethics when it comes to money so lets not play stupid, if the agreement was drawn up with no opt out clauses or penalities then she may get away with it, if she signed a contract that bound her to perform or else she would pay compensation then she can be sued allowing the courts the opportunity to decide.
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