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[Schnauzer]

The 40 million mentioned is an unfortunate misinterpretation of an offer made by J Lo when she became fully aware of the situation in the illegal state of 'TRNC'.

The actual fact of the matter is that she (as a great believer in justice) offered to pay each of the 40,000 Turkish troops a grand each to **** off back to their own country !!.

Just been confirmed by J Lo's Lawyers, ( subject to acceptance of course).

[paliometoxo]

so what was their reply to the trnc hotel people?

[Schnauzer]

so what was their reply to the trnc hotel people?

Not sure, but I think they told them that they can **** off too !!.

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu

Now, now, VP, do need to get nasty. Just because you won't get the chance to drive JLo and her family in the HUMMER from the airport to Cratos, don't take it out of me.!

It has nothing to do with what you claim I insulted you back nothing more nothing less, if you or anyone else on the forum insult me then I will respond in the same manner, obviously you know nothing about TCs if you insult them they will insult you back 10 fold, so when thinking about throwing sarcastic insults for no good reason then expect the worse type of verbal insults back, hope I have cleared that point for you once again.

But thank you for making my point for me. Once again you went on about the Cratos hotel in what they may get out of this whole JLo affair and ignored the fact that the "trnc" is getting hammered with bad PR as a result of Cratos going after JLo. First the £3 Million Dollars was not going to make her come once she learnt about the Cyprus problems, and if that wasn't bad enough, she is still refusing to come after a $40 Million Dollar lawsuit threat against her. Who in their right mind would be willing to lose $40 Million Dollars by refusing to come to the "trnc", other than someone with great deal of integrity and principles. What does that do to the image of the "trnc" and Turkey for God sake, that you can't bring a International personality to the "trnc" for even for $40 Million Dollars potential loss to them and here you are still peddling the Cratos hotel as if it was the second coming of Christ. Well, it's not, but in the meantime just to get some revenge on JLo, the Cratos is making the "trnc", Turkey, TCs and Turks look worse each and passing day.

Bad press for the TRNC you are joking arent you, its has tırned the spotlight back onto the inhumane embagoes we are under and the EU slowing moving towards adoting direct trade I think you arguements are yet again revealed for what they really are biased one sick comments that will always be anti TC therefore TRNC. As for Cratos I met the management team recently and they couldnt be more pleased with the PR stunt noway could thay have gotten the name of the hotel so taled about and to a wide audience without the Jlo saga even you would not have heard about them. The fact that you take time to debate as always negatively which is no suprise and expected only supports their opinion that they win whether she performs or not. Plus if you sign a contract take money and then back out you will get sued, thats what Jlo will face, noway way out of this but hey the GCs could also meet that bill as well ho no forgot their economy is going south 40million dollars is big bucks.

In any case, once again you have demonstrated to us that your comprehension of the written English language is very poor. I was not stating that the Cratos hotel was lousy vs. the hotels in Las Vegas, only that it's size and location was not up to par with the hotels in Las Vegas, because the way you go on about the Cratos, you make it sound like it's the best thing since slice bread.

Everyone read what you claimed so dont try to wriggle out of it, you have not seen both so you cannot claim anything, your who can piss higher is only a reflection of your own undeveloped and biased mentality towards TCs and the TRNC, Cratos is the best on this island difficult to stomach? well tough luck.

Besides, having a casino on a sea front is a minus for the casinos from business point of view. It's a major distraction which takes away gambling time from people. Why do you think Vegas was built in a dessert. You've seen it, there is no daylight or clocks inside the casinos. You don't know which way is south, North, East or west, or even what's up or down. The casinos want your complete attention and your money.!

Matter of opinion, why the hell have they built built all sorts of attractions outside the hotels when they want to keep the gambler inside, dont give us that bullshit, not everyone goes to Vegas for the gambling, ı perosnally hate it but enjoyed everything else.

Just for conversation sake, when were you last in Las Vegas and which hotel/casinos did you visit for you to state that Cratos can knock most of the hotels on the strip for six. Lets see how much you know. You don't need to tell me where you stayed.

I am under no obligation to prove anything or answer your immature questions just as I have to accept you have been you have to accept that I have also been.

Just for general information, Las Vegas is not just a gambling destination, but a fun resort destination, where there is something to do for everyone, including kids, hence the reason why it has many many repeat visitors. Las Vegas keeps it fresh and new as often as it can just that it can keep on bringing those repeat visitors back. If your Cratos is just going to rely on it's "beauty" and gambling and nothing else for the visitors in the hopes to become a success in the long run, I'll give it a 6-12 months for the financial cracks to start showing once the honeymoon period is over. You expect too much from the rich Turks to come to the north to gamble just to keep the Cratos afloat. They will initially harvest customers from other casinos until the novelty runs out, which may even force others to shut down, which will mean job loses elsewhere. Also, Cratos should hope that the RoC does not allow anyone to open a floating Casino on a cruise ship anchored 3 miles offshore to capture all the GC gambling customers as well as all the TC gamblers, since they are not allowed to gamble in the north. Also lets not forget about the owners of the land where Cratos sits on suing them for trespassing, unless it is legally owned by the hotels owners. Something to think about.!

Your opinion, only time will tell whether the investment is a sucess or not plus you are again contradicting yourself, you state the sea in the TRNC is a disavantage while the other attractions in Vegas are a plus, come on these remarks make you look stupid and only proves that you will stop at nothing and say anything to bring what we do in the TRNC down.

As for the RoC granting gambling permission we have been hearing about this for years, if they are going to do it then go right ahead I hate gambling so it does really bother me. As for the loss of jobs the majority of workers in the Cratos have only recently arrived from Turkey as their are not enough TCs who want to work in hotels, so it didnt really effect the local jobs market.

And by the way, what's with the Greek name for the hotel in the north by the Turks, Cratos-Kratos.??

And you claim Turkification of the north, proves you wrong yet again.

[Gasman]

'Artemis' isn't Turkish either is it? Re Turkification of the North.

Also, Cratos should hope that the RoC does not allow anyone to open a floating Casino on a cruise ship anchored 3 miles offshore to capture all the GC gambling customers as well as all the TC gamblers, since they are not allowed to gamble in the north.

No fear of that happening. GR has confirmed it will not happen. He says that Cypriots are too stupid to behave responsibly in regard to Casinos. That they will break up families etc. and that the Government has a responsibility to save them from themselves.

So they wouldn't open one 'offshore' would they? That would go against the reasoning for not having them and be just TOO hypocritical.

Here's what GR said:

Just one state-controlled like that of Malta.
ID to get in, and no more than one visit p/month for locals.
We can't have fools ruining their families...

It’s just that most people are stupid so they cannot be trusted and must be controlled. I don’t believe in too much freedom for the masses… freedom is something that should be earned by proving you won’t abuse it.

Gambling is as serious a problem as drug abuse. Many families are ruined every year worldwide because one or more parents are seriously sick with it!
You can ruin your family with gambling much faster than with heroin!

...because many Cypriots are stupid and they will ruin their families and their children will suffer, adding further to increased crime.

[Acikgoz]

Culture and history are just that, culture and history. Do not assume all people exhibit the same bigotry as the GC extremists.
Remember, we cannot claim credit for the work of our fathers.

[Kikapu]

'Artemis' isn't Turkish either is it? Re Turkification of the North.

Also, Cratos should hope that the RoC does not allow anyone to open a floating Casino on a cruise ship anchored 3 miles offshore to capture all the GC gambling customers as well as all the TC gamblers, since they are not allowed to gamble in the north.

No fear of that happening. GR has confirmed it will not happen. He says that Cypriots are too stupid to behave responsibly in regard to Casinos. That they will break up families etc. and that the Government has a responsibility to save them from themselves.

So they wouldn't open one 'offshore' would they? That would go against the reasoning for not having them and be just TOO hypocritical.

Here's what GR said:

Just one state-controlled like that of Malta.
ID to get in, and no more than one visit p/month for locals.
We can't have fools ruining their families...

It’s just that most people are stupid so they cannot be trusted and must be controlled. I don’t believe in too much freedom for the masses… freedom is something that should be earned by proving you won’t abuse it.

Gambling is as serious a problem as drug abuse. Many families are ruined every year worldwide because one or more parents are seriously sick with it!
You can ruin your family with gambling much faster than with heroin!

...because many Cypriots are stupid and they will ruin their families and their children will suffer, adding further to increased crime.

I know GR's position on gambling, but some people like it, hence the fact they go to the north to play. Most gamblers are losers.!

Regardless, how could the RoC stop any entrepreneur from running a floating hotel/casino on a anchored ship offshore. I believe 3 miles is the limit before being in International waters for this purpose. If the RoC cant stop gamblers from going to the north, how can they stop them from going to the ship offshore. All they need to do is run free shuttles boats from the shore to the ship and back as often as possible, taking no more than 15 minutes each way. What would be illegal in that. I'm sure someone will do this before too long.!

[Raymanoff]

3 miles? that takes me 6 minutes on a windsurf And thats in choppy conditions

[Get Real!]

Overall, gamblers are not terribly intelligent people because they don’t seem to understand probability, and they are unaware of the fact that all casino games are intentionally designed to strip the great majority of customer’s money while paying a little back once in a blue moon to keep the fools coming!

I wrote a “Jacks or Better” game many years ago that was EEPROM-ed into poker machines at a well known casino resort in Australia. I was instructed by the resort to keep a counter in the program of advantageous openings and to force a reshuffle if they exceeded a certain number! I had no choice but to obey as I had to demonstrate in the source code where and how that took place! In other words we programmed it to cheat!

My advice is to never throw your money away on those corrupt machines! Better still, never gamble! You’ll have a much better time taking you family or friends for a good dinner with that money.

[Kikapu]

Overall, gamblers are not terribly intelligent people because they don’t seem to understand probability, and they are unaware of the fact that all casino games are intentionally designed to strip the great majority of customer’s money while paying a little back once in a blue moon to keep the fools coming!

I wrote a “Jacks or Better” game many years ago that was EEPROM-ed into poker machines at a well known casino resort in Australia. I was instructed by the resort to keep a counter in the program of advantageous openings and to force a reshuffle if they exceeded a certain number! I had no choice but to obey as I had to demonstrate in the source code where and how that took place! In other words we programmed it to cheat!

My advice is to never throw your money away on those corrupt machines! Better still, never gamble! You’ll have a much better time taking you family or friends for a good dinner with that money.

I'm sure most know that all gaming machines are design to keep certain percentage for the house come what may. Overall, I agree with you regarding gamblers, but most gamblers who are sensible, they play with money they can afford to lose. In another words, they play for entertainment value and not because they are going to hit the jackpot. They won't fall apart because they lost few hundred dollars if they only gamble once in a while. Most players choose to play live games and not the machines, but unfortunately, biggest winners are on the machines, how ever rare they may be.!

Just for your information, if the card game Black Jack did not have a limit on how much one can bet, one can never lose if one had plenty of money. All they need to do, is to double down every time they lose a hand. Once they win, then bet normal again, until losing start, then start doubling down. Unfortunately, there is always a limit how much one can place a bet on each hand.