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Postby DT. » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:02 pm

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Kikapu wrote:you seem to take satisfaction that the hotel is gaining name recognition (big deal) as if it's the only hotel/casino in the world, which by Las Vegas standards in size and popular destination, it will be considered a hot-dog stand vs. a 5 star gourmet restaurant, .


amen to that brother....Going back anytime soon? I convinced the guys for one more run in September :D Rehab pool party here we come! 8)


Hi DT,

Not this year, again, but one never knows.!

Few week ago, we were at one of the newest hotel casinos, the "ARIA", located next to the other great hotel, the "Bellagio" on the strip. A 5 star hotel all around. It is architecturally a more modern hotel than some others in Vegas, which seem have a touch of "Disneyland" theme to them.

I'm sure you and the guys will have a great time where ever you stay.......Garanteed.!:D



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We booked a cabana room at the nightclub there...Was f***** unbelievable!!!
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Postby Acikgoz » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:13 pm

Thanks Raymanoff,

I didn't even know she was coming into town nor that the hotel was about to open. Obviously I don't run around in the hip circles.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:35 pm

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Kikapu wrote:you seem to take satisfaction that the hotel is gaining name recognition (big deal) as if it's the only hotel/casino in the world, which by Las Vegas standards in size and popular destination, it will be considered a hot-dog stand vs. a 5 star gourmet restaurant, .


amen to that brother....Going back anytime soon? I convinced the guys for one more run in September :D Rehab pool party here we come! 8)


Hi DT,

Not this year, again, but one never knows.!

Few week ago, we were at one of the newest hotel casinos, the "ARIA", located next to the other great hotel, the "Bellagio" on the strip. A 5 star hotel all around. It is architecturally a more modern hotel than some others in Vegas, which seem have a touch of "Disneyland" theme to them.

I'm sure you and the guys will have a great time where ever you stay.......Garanteed.!:D



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We booked a cabana room at the nightclub there...Was f***** unbelievable!!!


Sadly we missed that experience at the Cabana room. We did however, enjoyed the Elvis Show performed by "Cirque du Soleil" at the Aria.! :D


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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:44 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Its real simple if her contract is binding and she is in breach then she will pay the price and Cratos premium will not only have pulled of a media coup but gotten paid a the same time.


An illegal contract is not binding nor is it enforceable, stop spouting about a matter you know nothing about. Entering the ROC through Ercan and conspiring to trespass render the contract illegal except perhaps in the "trnc" and Turkey. I doubt any country in the world would assist in enforcing the judgment.


How do you know its illegal? shouldnt the courts decide this? the contract was agreed in the USA and an advance payment was made. Hello shes was going to fly in by private jet.


Idiot, her private jet was going to land illegally in the ROC and she was going to trespass on GC property when she performed (remember Orams and trespass). That's how I know it was illegal!


Hello fuck face (two can play at that game) planes land in Turkey and continue to onto Ercan perfectly acceptable, happened everyday, why dont you sue all the tourists including the TCs who do this all the time?


here you go again shit face, talking out of your arse. The reason planes go to Turkey first is bacause the are not allowed direct flights from other country airports. This wouldn't apply to a private plane.

Then, and more importantly, just because a plane goes to Turkey first does NOT legitimise the illegal Ercan.

Whichever way you want to slice it, Ercan is illegal, the airspace belongs to the RoC and without their express permission you are all committing illegalities.

Now, just because the RoC is not mighty enough to do anything about it, does mean is OK, geddit!

Larnaca and Paphos airports are the ONLY two legal entry points via air, anything else is illegal. Surely even a F lowlife like you can understand that much.

Capish!


Why are you waiting go ahead and sue...i only respond in like so you deserve a fuck off comment now capiss off.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:52 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Its real simple if her contract is binding and she is in breach then she will pay the price and Cratos premium will not only have pulled of a media coup but gotten paid a the same time.


You are such a short sighted simpleton, VP. For every mention of the Craton hotel relating to the JLo affair, which you seem to take satisfaction that the hotel is gaining name recognition (big deal) as if it's the only hotel/casino in the world, which by Las Vegas standards in size and popular destination, it will be considered a hot-dog stand vs. a 5 star gourmet restaurant, and in the meantime, the "trnc" is getting blasted as being a puppet Turkish occupied land, Human Rights violations committed by removing GC refugees from the north and refused access, World sanctions against the "trnc", only recognised by Turkey who invaded and created the "trnc" and it goes on and on.

As I've told you few days ago, the J Lo affair has been a total disaster for the "trnc". No body is going to come to stay at the hotel because it has name recognition, if people will not come to the north because of all the other facts that reflects negatively on the "trnc". If the hotel continues with their law suit, expect far more negativity to come your way, specially when J Lo start making public comments in why she refused to come to the north. The hotel will not even get their money back, and in fact, be sued by J Lo for their attempt to make her do something illegal as well as turn the whole event at the hotel into a political one. Why do you think Eroglu is also upset that JLo is not coming. Why the hell does he care whether she is coming or not, if the whole thing was not going to be a political, which the attempt was use JLo as a bait .

Besides, the 40 million lawsuit treat is just that. How does the hotel figure that they are out of pocket £40 million Dollars by her not showing up.? Did they sell that many tickets for the concert. Surely the hotel did not sell 200,000 tickets at $200 dollars a piece in what JLo may bring in her other concerts to justify $40 million damages. Besides, if JLo really thought she can't defend herself against the $40 million lawsuit, all she has to do is agree to come to the north and not come at all by claiming that she is sick. End of story. What will the hotel sue her for, for being sick. I like to see the hotel sue her for being ill. There are many ways to skin a cat, but in the mean time, the "trnc" is getting blasted all over the world as being nothing but a illegal puppet state of Turkey under occupation. No amount of money will help the "trnc" to fix that.


And you are a fucking bastard, you know I always return your compliments, the fact that you have taken the time to put your viewpoint accross by rubbishing this new hotel only adds to my arguement that the Cratos premium hotel has been clearly placed on the map by this PR stunt noway could they have gotten so much exposure in such little time. As for the figures you yet again dispute just workout how much these casinos really make as for the standard of the hotel have you seen it? how then can you compare it to those in las Vegas, I have done both and I can tell you that the Cratos can knock the the majority of hotels on the strip for six as for starters none of the hotels in Las Vegas look onto the mediterranean....anyway you are such a biased individual that your comments are mundane and only to be expected.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:53 pm

humanist wrote:This could actually help the RoC because it will expose the "trnc" for what it really is, to the world. Once she gives the reasons for cancellation which is her belief in human rights and that when she was given details of the situation she will emerge as a winner and bring shame on the "trnc" for


Naive...please increase your intelligence level.
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Postby Acikgoz » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:09 am

Interesting point VP. As a casino hotel it will also attract the type of person that cares not for Cyprus and bleeding heart issues, if anything it puts it and North Cyprus more readily on the casino circuit. From Russia to China to the middle east the news of this hotel casino has been reported, particularly the threat of suing her back.
I thought you were a little off the mark but starting to see you may have a point. Winner winner chicken dinner.

Shame the revenues hardly get distributed into the island.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:01 am

Acikgoz wrote:Interesting point VP. As a casino hotel it will also attract the type of person that cares not for Cyprus and bleeding heart issues, if anything it puts it and North Cyprus more readily on the casino circuit. From Russia to China to the middle east the news of this hotel casino has been reported, particularly the threat of suing her back.
I thought you were a little off the mark but starting to see you may have a point. Winner winner chicken dinner.

Shame the revenues hardly get distributed into the island.


You are right the revenue on the whole is channeled back to Turkey as the holding company are Turkish but there are over 900 personnel and these people all have to rent homes and pump part of their earnings back into the TRNC economy. The type of customer they wish to attract are the very rich from Turkey where gambling is not allowed and believe me there are loads, add to this a small harbour attached to the hotel I also think they will also attract international gamblers as well.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:07 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Its real simple if her contract is binding and she is in breach then she will pay the price and Cratos premium will not only have pulled of a media coup but gotten paid a the same time.


You are such a short sighted simpleton, VP. For every mention of the Craton hotel relating to the JLo affair, which you seem to take satisfaction that the hotel is gaining name recognition (big deal) as if it's the only hotel/casino in the world, which by Las Vegas standards in size and popular destination, it will be considered a hot-dog stand vs. a 5 star gourmet restaurant, and in the meantime, the "trnc" is getting blasted as being a puppet Turkish occupied land, Human Rights violations committed by removing GC refugees from the north and refused access, World sanctions against the "trnc", only recognised by Turkey who invaded and created the "trnc" and it goes on and on.

As I've told you few days ago, the J Lo affair has been a total disaster for the "trnc". No body is going to come to stay at the hotel because it has name recognition, if people will not come to the north because of all the other facts that reflects negatively on the "trnc". If the hotel continues with their law suit, expect far more negativity to come your way, specially when J Lo start making public comments in why she refused to come to the north. The hotel will not even get their money back, and in fact, be sued by J Lo for their attempt to make her do something illegal as well as turn the whole event at the hotel into a political one. Why do you think Eroglu is also upset that JLo is not coming. Why the hell does he care whether she is coming or not, if the whole thing was not going to be a political, which the attempt was use JLo as a bait .

Besides, the 40 million lawsuit treat is just that. How does the hotel figure that they are out of pocket £40 million Dollars by her not showing up.? Did they sell that many tickets for the concert. Surely the hotel did not sell 200,000 tickets at $200 dollars a piece in what JLo may bring in her other concerts to justify $40 million damages. Besides, if JLo really thought she can't defend herself against the $40 million lawsuit, all she has to do is agree to come to the north and not come at all by claiming that she is sick. End of story. What will the hotel sue her for, for being sick. I like to see the hotel sue her for being ill. There are many ways to skin a cat, but in the mean time, the "trnc" is getting blasted all over the world as being nothing but a illegal puppet state of Turkey under occupation. No amount of money will help the "trnc" to fix that.


And you are a fucking bastard, you know I always return your compliments, the fact that you have taken the time to put your viewpoint accross by rubbishing this new hotel only adds to my arguement that the Cratos premium hotel has been clearly placed on the map by this PR stunt noway could they have gotten so much exposure in such little time. As for the figures you yet again dispute just workout how much these casinos really make as for the standard of the hotel have you seen it? how then can you compare it to those in las Vegas, I have done both and I can tell you that the Cratos can knock the the majority of hotels on the strip for six as for starters none of the hotels in Las Vegas look onto the mediterranean....anyway you are such a biased individual that your comments are mundane and only to be expected.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now, now, VP, do need to get nasty. Just because you won't get the chance to drive JLo and her family in the HUMMER from the airport to Cratos, don't take it out of me.! :lol:

But thank you for making my point for me. Once again you went on about the Cratos hotel in what they may get out of this whole JLo affair and ignored the fact that the "trnc" is getting hammered with bad PR as a result of Cratos going after JLo. First the £3 Million Dollars was not going to make her come once she learnt about the Cyprus problems, and if that wasn't bad enough, she is still refusing to come after a $40 Million Dollar lawsuit threat against her. Who in their right mind would be willing to lose $40 Million Dollars by refusing to come to the "trnc", other than someone with great deal of integrity and principles. What does that do to the image of the "trnc" and Turkey for God sake, that you can't bring a International personality to the "trnc" for even for $40 Million Dollars potential loss to them and here you are still peddling the Cratos hotel as if it was the second coming of Christ. Well, it's not, but in the meantime just to get some revenge on JLo, the Cratos is making the "trnc", Turkey, TCs and Turks look worse each and passing day.

In any case, once again you have demonstrated to us that your comprehension of the written English language is very poor. I was not stating that the Cratos hotel was lousy vs. the hotels in Las Vegas, only that it's size and location was not up to par with the hotels in Las Vegas, because the way you go on about the Cratos, you make it sound like it's the best thing since slice bread.

Besides, having a casino on a sea front is a minus for the casinos from business point of view. It's a major distraction which takes away gambling time from people. Why do you think Vegas was built in a dessert. You've seen it, there is no daylight or clocks inside the casinos. You don't know which way is south, North, East or west, or even what's up or down. The casinos want your complete attention and your money.! :lol:

Just for conversation sake, when were you last in Las Vegas and which hotel/casinos did you visit for you to state that Cratos can knock most of the hotels on the strip for six. Lets see how much you know. You don't need to tell me where you stayed.

Just for general information, Las Vegas is not just a gambling destination, but a fun resort destination, where there is something to do for everyone, including kids, hence the reason why it has many many repeat visitors. Las Vegas keeps it fresh and new as often as it can just that it can keep on bringing those repeat visitors back. If your Cratos is just going to rely on it's "beauty" and gambling and nothing else for the visitors in the hopes to become a success in the long run, I'll give it a 6-12 months for the financial cracks to start showing once the honeymoon period is over. You expect too much from the rich Turks to come to the north to gamble just to keep the Cratos afloat. They will initially harvest customers from other casinos until the novelty runs out, which may even force others to shut down, which will mean job loses elsewhere. Also, Cratos should hope that the RoC does not allow anyone to open a floating Casino on a cruise ship anchored 3 miles offshore to capture all the GC gambling customers as well as all the TC gamblers, since they are not allowed to gamble in the north. Also lets not forget about the owners of the land where Cratos sits on suing them for trespassing, unless it is legally owned by the hotels owners. Something to think about.!

And by the way, what's with the Greek name for the hotel in the north by the Turks, Cratos-Kratos.??
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:58 pm

Get Real! wrote:Here's a more accurate précis of what’s happened…

A half-witted Turk who was stupid enough to waste his money building a dumb looking hotel (3 stars by RoC standards) in the occupied territory and soon to be declared bankrupt & closed, is stupid enough to sue one of the world’s most successful entertainment enterprises for failing to send an entertainer to an illegal UN-condemned military base!

Who should be suing who is the real question here…


are you sure this hotel looks 3 stars ? u dont even have 1 hotel in theese standards.
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