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[IMPOSTALIEDUS]

Pratis, I now see this going on for a few decades, consider most the immigrants came in the last decade, their children will be born here, they will have made their homes and lives here. You will never be able to "get rid of them". THEY ARE HERE TO STAY, and they are a damn sight closer to countrymen than our supposed bretheren the Greek Cypriots.

When Crete was liberated they send all the Turks back to Turkey even though those Turks were in Crete for 2 centuries. So how do you know that the Turkish Settlers in Cyprus are "here to stay"?

The Turkish Settlers are not welcomed to Cyprus because they were brought here by Turkey with the intention of changing the demographics of our island. Therefore when Cyprus will be liberated they will go back to their homeland.

Piratis,you've often posted about the rights of people and how you are a supporter of human rights. Here you say that Turks were expelled from Crete despite two centuries of living there (on that logic French and British Canadians and British and Irish Australians should start packing their bags as well) in ....when ? .. in 1898. And you think that the ways and means of 1898 are okay for today ? Today international and other law,including basic human rights law - which you have repeatedly said are so important to you - has prohibited (quite rightly) exactly what you are advocating and sympathetic to. So which is it to be : respect of human rights and upholding international law or expelling Turks and Turkish Cypriots ? Which one Piratis ?

For all Turkish Cypriots their homeland is Cyprus (there's a clue in the suffix 'Cypriot'). For many if not most Turkish people in Cyprus the return to their 'homeland' would not be a choice but would be under coercion. And coercing people through an expulsion based on their ethnicity is what you've also said that you are against, ethnic cleansing. So which is it to be Piratis : consistency in respect of human rights and upholding international law or ethnic cleansing ? Which one, Piratis ?

Deporting the illegal Settlers is not "ethnic cleansing". Ethnic cleansing is what the Turks did against us, and the illegal Settlers that they bring on our island is yet another one of their crimes.

You have no problem with the ethnic cleansing of the Cypriot people and you want to force on Cyprus some "solution" based on the results of this ethnic cleansing that would create some "Turkish State" on land were Greeks have been the vast majority for 1000s of years, but you have a problem with us re-claiming our own territory and reverting the illegal Turkification attempted by Turkey?

Cyprus will be liberated sooner or later, and those settlers will be send back to Turkey regardless of how much time passes. If this will result in any human right violation of those people then the blame for this rest 100% on the Turkish government and the Turkish army.

If you push somebody down from a tall building you can't blame the law of gravity for his fall. Similarly if you send Settlers illegally to Cyprus you can't blame the Cypriots for enforcing their laws and defending their own country from the foreign invaders. The one responsible for the Settlers problem is Turkey and nobody else.

You are now in the eu where there are probably more than a million illegal imigrants some even criminals who the eu cannot deport whether they would like to or not , there is probably 4 hundred thousand in the uk alone, what chance has a new government in cyprus got of sending mainlanders back to turkey,they have NO chance,

[T_C]

Piratis thinks GC's have a legitimate right to kill anyone in the north TC's included (his supposed fellow countrymen) because Turkey occupies the north....and if I was to shoot him in retaliation to him shooting me he would call me a criminal for defending myself no matter what the circumstances, him being from the majority population and all....

[growuptcs]

Piratis thinks GC's have a legitimate right to kill anyone in the north TC's included (his supposed fellow countrymen) because Turkey occupies the north....and if I was to shoot him in retaliation to him shooting me he would call me a criminal for defending myself no matter what the circumstances, him being from the majority population and all....

Your quazimoto scenarios justify nothing except your inability to act like a human being and treat everyone equal.

[Oracle]

Piratis thinks GC's have a legitimate right to kill anyone in the north TC's included (his supposed fellow countrymen) because Turkey occupies the north....and if I was to shoot him in retaliation to him shooting me he would call me a criminal for defending myself no matter what the circumstances, him being from the majority population and all....

Didn't you "justify" Turkey's invasion and killing of thousands of GCs for some (baseless) retaliation ?

If GCs had to fight to regain their property (currently occupied by TCs and Settlers) why should you be treated any differently?

[humanist]

Piratis

The aim is a 100% free and democratic Cyprus, but until that aim can be achieved we will maintain the 2/3rds of free and democratic Cyprus. We will not allow to Turkey to legalize the Turkification of 1/3rd of Cyprus and we will not allow to them to control our whole island via their well known puppets. That would be the worst thing that we could do for the future generations.

Correct and ideal my friend but I think our EU friends together with the Australian fascist pig will ensure the opposite. And that is where Mr Christofias needs to turn his attention too. We need to lobby them.

[T_C]

Equal?!?

Your problem is that you don't see TC's as equals, and you think (and act) like your being majority does EXACTLY that!

What about the TC's who commited no crime, like those that were initially thrown out of their homes by the GC's for absolutely no reason, who also had their homes looted and burned down even....going by your logic Turkey was full justified in what they did, why the hell should any of you been treated differently?!?

[humanist]

back to the population

22000 British sounds excessive regardless of which number of TC's you go for 35,000 or 55,000

[Nikitas]

Bananiot is quick to accuse others of being naive, yet he talks with authority that if we had accepted the Annan plan Turkey would somehow abandon its cynicism and turn into a paragon of honor and virtue and would self limit the colonisation of the north. Who is naive!

Pyro has it right when he says "Turkey and the TC leadership were always working along the lines of making SOLUTION IMPOSSIBLE."

Let us be honest with ourselves- BBF is partition. Our power to influence events in the northern constituent state would be next to nil. That is why TERRITORY is a much more effective way of limiting settlers by limiting the space they have available. The rest, as we say in Greek, is toothpaste.

[Get Real!]

Bananiot is quick to accuse others of being naive, yet he talks with authority that if we had accepted the Annan plan Turkey would somehow abandon its cynicism and turn into a paragon of honor and virtue and would self limit the colonisation of the north. Who is naive!

Having met Bananiot 3-4 times I wouldn’t call him naïve… but one who does deals!

[CopperLine]

"Individuals die. Our nation will not. Until our land is returned to us there will be a problem that we will solve when we will have the power to do so, regardless if this will be tomorrow or in 100 years."

Piratis has made things very clear by taking a leaf out of Hitler's book. Piratis gives an excellent Nazi view of the nation, the pyre of which he is prepared to throw the protesting body of any dissenting individual, Cypriot or otherwise. Yours, Piratis, is the clearest statement of fascism on this forum.